What actually happened at those camps?

Historians only, no emotional or politically-charged comments from either side please

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>Historians only

Okay.

youtube.com/watch?v=0ztdofPc8Rw

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

seriously user, what do you think the holocaust was? Some it up with a quick green text or something

It seems like it was exaggerated after the war and a lot of the physical evidence is just props. Even if it really happened the way the mainstream narrative says it did, why fabricate evidence? Even Eli Weisel who came to my university later said he made it all up.. It just makes me uncomfortable and I don't know who to believe. You have the extremists on each side and they both seem so passionate.

You are an embarrassment, you must know that.

>Even if it really happened the way the mainstream narrative says it did

what is the mainstream narrative and what really happened. Go into a little more detail.

That's right. How embarrassing, questioning the Narrative.

Do you also think Vietnam never happened because of fake veterans existing? Genuinely curious

Keep telling yourself that you're being edgy by denying the Holocaust and "questioning the narrative". It's not 2008 anymore, this isn't /b/. You're just another underage poster who craves attention online. Grow up.

you dont even know what the narrative is. In fact, you are just following the line of neo-nazis without even thinking about it

>Camp containing hundreds of thousands of people
>And one horse
>Over 90% of people in the camp never go out
>Somehow the existence of that one horse disproves any allegations that these people might've been killed

Can somebody explain to me what the logic is behind this?

It's these bizarrely emotional outbursts illicited from people the moment you bring up this topic that got me doubting the entire narrative in the first place. Why is it so damn sacred and untouchable a subject for people? Everytime I ask this I become more convinced that the only way to truly know history is to glean what you can from the evidence and draw my own conclusion.

Thanks for nothing you assholes..

You didn't answer my question, do you think Vietnam is a lie because some people lie about being there?

Im asking you to explain in further detail what you think the narrative is and what you think really happened user.

Just stop.

There is no logic behind it. Deniers are basically a religion

They think a water tank that the camp administration had to built in 1944 because Alianz told them too.was a swimming pool? Really? Everytime I confront a nazi apologist over pics with fake quotes he goes silent. And I really want to know.

I don't know what's sadder: the possibility that you're only now realizing the importance of primary sources; the possibility that it took fucking Veeky Forums to realize the importance of primary sources; that you're even being seriously swayed on anything by fucking Veeky Forums; or that you're actually being serious and not just shitposting.

4/10, made me seriously reply.

Holy shit a /pol/ infographic, I now see that all research surrounding the holocaust is false.

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>Why do people feel uncomfortable by me being a genocide denier?

Gee, what a fucking mystery

>Why is it so damn sacred and untouchable a subject for people?
Because we have it every fucking day (especially during American powerhours), with the same "arguments" and the same pomo bullshit about "questioning the narrative" and "It's true because in some countries it's forbiden to deny it" and "It smells fishy". It's just fucking annoying.

Indeed
He's a very very bad goy

Nice thread guys. Way to give him some proof instead of antagonising the poor fellow...

See

that pic reminds me of how the left can't meme

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are you proud being lumped with 9/11 truthers or flat earthers?

>Veeky Forums should just be wikipedia links instead of actual discussion

Do you honestly expect to win people over with these tactics? Do you have any comprehension of how to support your stance in a convincing manner?

Are you proud of discrediting an idea because of imposed categories
>muh feels
As for 9/11, if we know it was Saudi Arabia, why did we go to war with Iraq.

For you

I would say that Jews were put in these camps and once Germany was dirt poor they got much less food and had a hard time fighting disease within the camps especially since Jews were notoriously dirty

stop samefaggin /pol/ack

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>no emotional or politically-charged comments from either side please

>"y-you cant meme!"

also, why do you feel the need to say "the left" as if that the only group of people who know the holocaust happened and as if you are some be all end all of the right when you are really an apolitical and clueless teenager playing make believe?

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Of course it was exaggerated.

If they had not made the Nazis into monsters they may have had to deal with national socialism again, perhaps even in their own countries. It is a dangerous idea that produced a aggressive state with an armed forces smaller than what France had which conquered Europe and took most of the rest of the world to stop.

Even today mass immigration is intended to stamp out any possibility of a national socialist movement taking over a western country as it requires a mostly mono-ethnic population to flourish.

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Maybe we should adopt the /a/ rule of "STOP SPOONFEEDING".

>Even today mass immigration is intended to stamp out any possibility of a nazi movement taking over a western country

That is a very stupid thing to say, if anything it made racism to come back.

No, providing scholarly consensus, or at least evidence, is essential to historical discussion.

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bro i am saying that these holocaust macros are more well made then that anti holocaust ones. A metaphor is that the lefts memes are weaker then the rights memes.

here. for you guys. the anti lolocaust image macros. I still think there are many inaccuracies in regards to the holocaust. Keep in mind false allegations themselves are immoral

we have this SAME thread at least 3 times a fucking day. Not only that, but its every other thread on /pol/ and we post EVERYTHING over and over and over and over again, which denier fags choose to ignore. this is because they very obviously have no interest in discussing or learning about the holocaust, they are simply shilling their stupid neo-nazi shit. Please get the fuck off of Veeky Forums with this obvious shill shitposting

Is this like a "punch a Nazi" moment?

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no, its a "stop shilling your stupid stormfag shit on Veeky Forums" moment

>FUCK
>OFF
>/pol/

Ah'll tongue punch yer ma's fart box cunt

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People were always racist.

no only when colored people are around

Stop posting.

That's idiotic, considering "colored" people are just as racist as anyone else.

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yeah but you understood my point

I dont know whats goign on

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Your point was stupid.

You know when the mods get around to banning you all your spamming goes with you yea?

What do you hope to accomplish here?

Amazing how Jews actually came out even through WW2

>Veeky Forums has become so tame people post normal porn to derail a thread

man you suck

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Nice.
Saved.

As a conservative and moderate nationalist in favor of free markets and closed borders, let me say you are a fucking embarrassment OP.

Nazi autism almost destroyed the West, and now you are doing it again. Nothing more degenerate than totalitarian rule.

The radicalization of the left and the right is going to tier the West apart. Fuck you revisionist assholes of both sides.

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*tear the West apart

Typo

ADD A LITTLE BIT OF MOONLIGHT

FOR THIS INTERCONTINENTAL ROMANCE

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>He thinks Germans cared about Jews faith

>Discussion on whether the most documented historical event in history, which both sides agree happened, happened

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Amazing how stormfag intentionally crop off the part that explicitly says that the 48 ones numbers were based on prewar projections

Oh, I see.
It reads like a "shut it down" kind of thing.

It's like the opposite of Spiderman posting.

we post all the info in every single one of these threads you make, and you ignore it all because it proves your stupid conspiracy theory wrong.

Why, you'd better take that back, my good man.

Hey, it's not me, man.
I'm just an innocent bystander.

are you saying the numbers are wrong?

>zionist nazism

youre a fucking retard who doesnt understand what the nuremberg laws were, nor do you realize that Werner Goldberg had to flee from Germany after he, like all jews, was kicked out of the military for being a half jew after the 1940 Nuremberg laws

Are you claiming that Germans prosecuted the Jews because of their faith?

obviously you dolt. It says right there that it was all based on projections from before the war even started, as in, it didnt even factor in a potential genocide. Why else do you think the neo-nazi version of the image cropped that part off?

>it didnt factor in a potential genocide
so its still the best number we have to go by because the post war numbers did take into account the genocide.

No, they persecuted them because of their ethnicity and culture

it wasn't a banking cabal? Germans are just so fucked up, i doubt that

>It's the best number we have because it fails to take into account the biggest change in the number ever known
?????

Almost 4 million of the Jews killed were just poor farmers in Poland.

>make the same retarded threads all the time
>every point has been refuted to death
>people tell you to fuck off to your own board
>STOP CENSORING ME

are there better number to go by?

At the core of it, they thought jews were some alien race that would betray them, just like they did in the first world war, so they were going to kill them first. Hitler and Goebbels speeches and writings tell us as much. They dont even hide it. They were batshit crazy and paranoid

Okay so then it had nothing to do with faith

of course it did. It had EVERYTHING to do with jewish identity.

>12,633,000 in 1970

jppi.org.il/uploads/2010_Annual_Assessment.pdf

It ain't me babe.
I just object to a "shut it down" mentality.

They blamed them for their loss in WW1 as it was Jewish socialists which threatened to destabilize Germany which forced them to quit the war deal with domestic matters. As the Jews were given Israel by the UK at the end of the war, and the UK made similar deals within the Ottoman empire during the war you can see why they decided the Jews were enemies of the state.