Did German civilians deserve to be kicked out from rest of the Europe after WWII?

>Between 1944 and 1948 about 31 million people, including ethnic Germans ('Volksdeutsche') as well as German citizens ('Reichsdeutsche'), were permanently or temporarily moved from Central and Eastern Europe.
Did you forget how Germany looked like before the war?

You are either insane or retarded if you think 31 million Germans lived in Ostpreussen, Pommern, and Schlesien.

Ummm honey.

That figure includes all deported germans, volksdeutsche, reichsdeutsche and sudetendeutsche.
>in first two decades of the 20th century
And even then they were far from the majority in the ceded areas.

>insane or retarded

He is a G*rm.

>3385855
No i am not

>start 2 world wars within 25 years
theyre lucky enough to still be allowed to breath

>t.g*rm

> Did German civilians deserve to be kicked out from rest of the Europe after WWII?

The only good thing the Soviets ever did was finally removing the cancer of Germans in central / eastern Europe.

You’re right Adolf, and further more, there were zero Poles outside of those areas, which were of course 101% ubermensch German since the ice age!

No, because they probably would've have been stupid enough to demolish Konigsberg Castle.

(You)

Why did you ask that question? Obviously the answer is this: Those Germans that were settled by the Nazis on stolen land should have obviously been forced back to where they came, though, be it Germany or some German enclave in another part of Europe.

>abloo bloo bloo why are you so mean to us poor innocent g*rms?
>all we did was try to genocide all non-g*rms, we shouldn't be held accountable for our own actions!
>bloo bloo bloo won't you think of all the """innocent""" g*rm women and children!

G*rms are filth. I'm just glad they've committed racial suicide and invited the whole Turd World to go live in their country.

WW2 proved Germans couldn't live in a multi-ethnic society, shouldn't they have been glad to be deported where they wouldn't be "oppressed" by Czechs or Poles like they whined about in the 30's?

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You're forgetting that to the g*rm """mind""", nothing he does is ever his fault, and the victims of his crimes are themselves responsible for everything bad that happened to them. These g*rm creatures look a little bit like humans, but they're vermin who need to be exterminated.

Why would anyone waste their time arguing with a g*rm? Anything we say to a lying sack of shit like you will simply be distorted anyway, better to just laugh at you for being the disgusting g*rm filth you are.

They're not sending us their good people. They're sending us rapists, they're sending murders. And some of them, i'm sure are good people.

>all we did was try to genocide all non-g*rms

>they whined about

The German civilian population was not responsible for the actions of the Nazi government. No matter what kind of bullshit you say 70 years later. Germans born after 1945 owe you nothing.

>Germans couldn't live in a multi-ethnic society
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Germans_in_Russia,_Ukraine_and_the_Soviet_Union
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-Hungary
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Americans

You're working extra hard for the (You)s today.

>fukin subhuman g*rms
>u cant argu wit filthy g*rms
>u r disgustin g*rm filth

>The German civilian population was not responsible for the actions of the Nazi government.

Yeah all they did was vote for them and then support them fully and never rise up against them, why should they be blamed just for what they did? How unfair!

>t.g*rm

>Invade Czechoslovakia over muh germans
>Invade Poland over muh Germans
>WTF? Germans were a tolerant and progressive people who didn't at all destablize any state with a significant minority of them within it's borders
Well, you're obviously wrong, so unless you start singing the praises of the DDR for accepting it all you should fuck off

>all they did was vote for them
The largest number was 35% of Germans eligible to vote, so (very) roughly 15-20 million people. After years of unstable governments and economic downturn (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic#Decline_.281930.E2.80.931933.29). I'm not excusing them, but they didn't get to vote when the Nazis started with their systematical terror.

>never rise up against them
Because they were at war, the fighting-aged men were at the front. People who did 'rise up' (spread anti-Nazi notions) were beheaded: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose
Listening to foreign radio could get you killed, I'm not sure if you'd be willing to risk your life, but talking is easy.

>why should they be blamed just for what they did?
It wasn't the entire German population, it was an (unfortunately large) minority. Those are to blame, not the German people.

Yeah man, it's almost as if there was a brutal dictatorship in Germany that did what it wanted...

Well maybe they shouldn't have supported the Nazi's? They weren't exactly subtle about what they wanted with the roving bands of unemployed assholes having punch ons in beer halls

>abloo bloo bloo those poor innocent g*rms!
>only some of them voted for the nazis!
>its true that none of them resisted, but that's because it was a war!
>and also because they agreed with everything the nazis did, up until they lost!
>but you cant hold people accountable for their actions, beliefs, and the parties they support!
>those poor g*rms, don't they deserve total forgiveness for all their many, many crimes?
>you want them to pay? why do you hate g*rms so much???

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>It was sort of ours 1000 years ago so we totally have the right to deport the people who have lived there for centuries

>people

We're talking about g*rms.

>Well. we've lived in Poland for less than 400 years, so obviously it's ours forever
Is this the way you want to go user?

lmao

Should we start deporting all ethnic groups who have been there for less than 400 years?

OK, so punish those who voted for the Nazis accordingly. Not the entire population.

>its true that none of them resisted
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics

List of Germans murdered by the Nazis during their takeover: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Todesopfern_des_nationalsozialistischen_Terrors_während_der_Machteroberungsphase_1933/1934

See pic, retard...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs#Migrations

When they support wars of aggression? Yes

The g*rms who died resisting the nazis are absolved of their sin, but by definition no living g*rm died resisting the nazis, therefore they are all 100% to blame for everything the nazis did, and should be wiped out as a race utterly given over to evil.

FYI. You absolute fucking cunt. Germanics living in Poland had nothing to do with modern-day Germans, but with Swedes.
In fact. Their genetics survived in Scandinavia, Poland, Ukraine, Spain, Belarus, Russia but not in Germany.

Now shut the fuck up and suck my dick.

Were are you from?
Do you have jobs? Do you need money?
Why are you mad at people who did not do anything to you?

“It was clearly somebody else’s but we spent hundreds of years killing and driving off most of them and forcibly assimilating the rest, while spreading our cancerous colonists even further, so that obviously means it was all ours all along!”

t. kraut.

The fact is that the Germans are the mongrels of Europe and their DNA proves it.

And the silesians, wends and the polabians have very little to do with poles but slavs as slavs and germanics and germanics

I could ask you the same, why do you give a shit about some German faggots in 1945 having to move to a German country?

You might have some brain damage.

Goths and Vandals were pretty much Swedish. They were absorbed.

The poles did the fucking same in the east

Every single day that a g*rm walks the Earth, they "do something" to me. It disgusts me that I have to share a planet with subhuman g*rms, I'm just glad that they won't exist for much longer thanks to their own revolting subhuman behavior. I'll take their extinction as a race as a win even tho they will never die slowly and in agony like they ALL deserve, but quickly and mercifully beneath an Islamic truck of Peace.

Goths and Vandals were East Germanic, Swedes are North Germanic

>why do you give a shit about some German faggots in 1945 having to move to a German country?
Because it wasn't just (for those that lived there since before the Nazi rule).

And because many angry people on Veeky Forums seem to be very angry at Germans as a whole despite having had their revenge, and despite the fact that 99,99+% of Germans today did not do them any wrong. It's either trolls or genuine autists. It's like Stormfags, really. When you deliver arguments, they can't deal with it, and instead of "muh Jewz!" they just spout "t. G*rm".

See here, prime example: . Pretty sure that's a troll, though.

It was political decision, to reduce Germany and increase harmless poland. If Germans were at least a little bit stronger than they are now they will again become pain in ass. I would prefer that people would remain there but Germany were split in several states. New national identities would have arisen in a couple of generations, like in Austria.

>It's completely okay to brutally rape and murder millions of people and drive them from their homelands just because of their ethnicity!
>Except when those ebil Nazis do it!

>angry at Germans as a whole despite having had their revenge

G*rms still exist, the revenge is not yet complete.

Traitors always deserve to get kicked out of the country they betrayed

>It's this thread again
Fucking pol/fags

But they wanted to live in Germany, you can't have it both ways
>Expelling them to live in Germany
The horror, how could they be so cruel?

Don't shit yourself, you degenerate Finshit.

>Crimean Goths were I1-M253 as well (just like Wielbark):

forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=48332&page=2&p=1304256&viewfull=1#post1304256

>(...) Our project tested two people who are descendants of the Crimean Goths, this kit ? 228539 Afenko and kit ? 228541 Aslanov. Their haplogroup (I1-M253) was determined in the course of scientific research laboratory Balanovsky. (...)

>"(...) It corresponds to the Z63+ subclade. I1a3-Z63+ subclade is virtually absent from Nordic countries. It is most common in Central Germany, the Benelux, England, Lowland Scotland, as well as Poland. It has also been found in Russia, Ukraine, the Balkans, Italy, Spain and Portugal. Y2245.2+ makes up a big part of the Z63 in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, the Balkans, Italy and Iberia. It could have been spread by the Goths. BY351+ is a subclade found in Portugal, Spain, Italy (including Sardinia). It was probably spread by the Visigoths and Ostrogoths. (...)"

Goths were Swedish not German.

Yeah, let's punish 13 year old children

Volksdeutsch deserved it to be honest, the Reichsdeutsch did not.

gotta rip out the roots or the weed grows right back

>Supported the regime which nearly led to the destruction of Europe
>Didn't deserve it

All krauts deserved it

>waagh those poor innocent baby g*rms!

G*rm children deserve what all g*rms deserve: Death by torture.

>the germans knew what it would lead to

>Expelling them to live in a country you completely destroyed by bombing
>Expelling them to a murderous communist dictatorship

Yeah, not horrible at all

Well, they wanted to live in Germany. Maybe they should have won the war?

>Maybe they should have won the war?

They would've if the Communists would've cared about their people instead of throwing a wall of corpses at the Germans

What's it say about the Wehrmacht if they couldn't beat a wall of corpses?

Sick fucking meme bruder

That they at least weren't corpses? They at least had guns

But apparently they were because the Soviets and DDR butchered them all? Make up your fucking mind

The Soviets butchered civilians, mostly unarmed women and children. The Western Allies were the ones who killed mot of the troops.

I agree with you that the answer to OP is obviously no, but you're wrong. Most German losses were inflicted by the Soviets.

Uh-huh

> The poles did the fucking same in the east

Nothing even approaching what the Germans did, they were straight up apartheid in German regions and where they were colonists, they demanded exclusivity within the host nation.

A literal cancer.

expulsions of populations happened 24/7, even after WW1. the Germans were excellent at expelling populations from Poland into congress Poland with the intention of enslaving them all. you can argue that it's not kosher or whatever but the truth is it was not nearly as drastic or aggressive or on any scale near what the Germans had planned for innocent poles/latgalians/etc. obviously it's not humanitarian but world war 2 was by no means a humanitarian war on the eastern front. if your neighbor was from the country that had for the last 6 years brutally bumfucked the majority of your people and massacred them, you might feel a little uncomfortable. same concept with South Koreans feeling North Koreans are a taboo when they live among each other.

Yes, they were fucking racists

or if they wernt, people in their families probably were

Fuck them

NO, they deserved Worst

>Expelling them to live in a country you completely destroyed by bombing
And was repaired by American money in a decade.

>Expelling them to a murderous communist dictatorship
IIRC most of them ended in Bavaria, so on the contrary. They escaped from communism without the risk of being shot by a border guard.

>And was repaired by American money in a decade.
>DDR
>repaired by American money

>most of them ended in Bavaria
[citation needed]

>Goths had a subclade of I1 Swedes don't have
>They wus sweeds and shit

mate, they're called GERMans for a reason

heterosexual and true

i've never seen a more inaccurate map in my life

never forget the veleti, obordites, and pomeranians
unjustfully slain by the g*rmanic menace
all that's left is a dwindling sorb population :^(

unironically this

GERMans must be expunged from europe, but unironically.

anybody who defends them is either an assburger or a >muh german heritage americlap

>DDR
Was small part of Germany. Most of Germans ended up in a better situation than the victorious nations east of the Iron curtain and even those in DDR were quite lucky Soviets did not fucked them up and made them into high-tech (for commie standards) economy.

>[citation needed]
The fucking Landsmannschaft is based in Bavaria.
also:
>books.google.cz/books?id=i6U3_K_Sm6sC&pg=PA133&lpg=PA133&dq=expelled germans bavaria&source=bl&ots=WR3XqPimgj&sig=5_A2yTvo2qCXmJjrtH1oQguniuk&hl=cs&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHi9PNsajWAhVLLMAKHbXjBf0Q6AEIYDAH#v=onepage&q=expelled germans bavaria&f=false
>page 133

germans are the unironic good guys of european history along with the italians.

other than ww2 of course

>in February 1945 over 500 ‘K’-prisoners attempted a mass breakout. Armed with paving stones, fire extinguishers and pieces of soap and coal, they attacked the watchtowers and threw wet blankets over the electric fences. The short circuit this caused allowed them to scale the camp wall. 419 people managed to escape.
At the same time, the SS initiated a large-scale manhunt, in which it was joined by the local police, the Wehrmacht and the home guard, as well as by numerous civilians from the local area. Almost all the escapees were caught again. Most were murdered on the spot. This search and murder operation was known cynically as the ‘Mühlviertel Hare Hunt’. It is thought eleven people survived. Their lives were saved by forced labourers working in agriculture and a handful of farming families in the Mühlviertel region who resisted joining in with the killing.

TL DR german civilians were hunting and shooting escaped prisoners. Fuck them.

Yes they were probably racist

They should have been slaughtered like fucking dogs to remove their supremacist genes from the gene pools

>See pic, retard...
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs#Migrations
So some shithole settlements are more important than an actual cities In fact, German capital was build by Slavs. That just makes Germanic the lowest form of trash.

No, the Jew deserves to be wiped out from existence for it's crimes against humanities and it's lies to the prols

>Invade Czechoslovakia over muh germans
>>Invade Poland over muh Germans
>Dude why are trying to unite Germans under a single pan German nation and get pissed off when the likes of the Poles and Czechs abuse them?
An hero

How butthurt do you have to be of the vilification of the Jews to spend your entire life on Veeky Forums trying to meme the Germans in the same manner.

Germans didn't have any rights to entire Czechoslovakia and Poland.

They didn't form even majority there, just some insignificant minority.

Hungary, Slovakia and Poland invaded Czechia as well.
The Soviets and Slovaks invaded Poland as well.
Why are you only spouting meme history.

>Germans didn't have any rights to entire Czechoslovakia and Poland.
They only wanted the Germans parts if either country (Sudentland and Danzig) and invaded Czechoslovakia because Edward Benes was actively oppressing Germans and Slovaks, then invaded Poland alongside the Soviet Union because they denies the ultimatum presented to them to allow Germany to take Danzig back from the League of Nations (although technically Poland was granted port access and had some power within the region). Also Poland had a lot of border disputes with the Czechoslovakia and Germany that it was pushing as well, and Benes was definitely arming his country for totalitarian control over the Slovaks and Germans

Hitler didn't just invade either country for no reason, in fact he gave Slovakia it's independence after invading the Czechs, although he did end up puppeting them out of fear that the young country couldn't govern itself.

Yes, they were literal terrorists.

>The Tarnów rail station bomb attack was a bombing carried out by a German agent at Tarnów, Poland. It occurred in the night of August 28, 1939, when a time bomb planted by the agent exploded, killing 20 people and wounding 35.

>In 1939, Tarnów was a town with a population of 40,000 in southern Poland. Trains passed through the busy main rail station of Tarnów Główny, carrying thousands of travellers, including numerous soldiers reporting to their units, as the international situation worsened day by day. The routine, however, was interrupted at 11:18 p.m., when a time bomb left by a German saboteur exploded in the luggage hall. Twenty people died and it has been argued that World War II started at that point.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarnów_rail_station_bomb_attack

>he only wanted
That's where you're wrong. He would never be satisfied.

>They only wanted
The world