Japan is the true heir to Classical China

>Han and Manchu are all Chinese now, including both their customs and cultures
>But Japs now are a demi-American colony who love sucking Americunts ass.
Who is who's heir again?

Let's be realistic: china will never, at least during our lifetime, have the same cultural impact Japan has had since anime became a thing

maybe if you're 70

Nice trips
But the time of the Chinks is coming. They are about to unleash an unstoppable wave of cultural autism on the world. You can't have a moderately wealthy nation of 1 billion people not exercise some kind of cultural influence (Pajeets need not apply).

>They are about to unleash an unstoppable wave of cultural autism on the world
I would agree on economic points, but cultural wise? you can't even beat Korea

Nigga they can't do anything with culture. A government official got pissed at Kung Fu Panda because they didn't think of that shit first. They just steal and suppress culture they believe is dangerous.

>at least during our lifetime
Depends how old are you. Chinese really are catching up. Even for your precious anime.
youtu.be/9ZK9szRr7FY
youtu.be/EuoxHdZgF2M
youtu.be/IbpbfSTUn-g

What can you do about it?

See thisAnd this
youtu.be/GQZNOeW0FuI
I've heard this is a one man job.

Also I lost count how much money "Le Evil Tencent" made from LoL, although I don't play that shit. Keep being mad and insecure, what else can you do...

Well it definitely isn't popular enough then
>What can you do about it?
>Keep being mad and insecure, what else can you do
Just telling the truth mate, the most similar thing china has to Japan and Korean cultural export is kungfu movies and fast food and thats in the 80s

>Well it definitely isn't popular enough then
Yes, "for now", but hard to say after 10 or 20 years later, who knows, maybe I can live to see them, I don't about you though. I'm also telling the truth.

Btw, I've heard this one is relatively popular.
store.steampowered.com/app/553640/ICEY/

>manchua queue is traditional chinese culture
>and is comparable with japanese top knot

here's a (you)

Think about it Japan and Korea cultural impact became prominent after they got rich. Japan in the 80's during it's hight, and Korean in the late 2000 and early 10's. China ain't even rich yet, but they're already setting records.

variety.com/2017/film/asia/china-box-office-wolf-warriors-ii-wins-fourth-weekend-1202534045/

>me on the right

>Communism was a mistake
"85 to 90% of the foreigners helping the Chinese at the time of the Communist takeover were Jewish."

forward.com/the-assimilator/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/#ixzz3EcOS0HbX

Mao ordered a general campaign to destroy The Four Olds: Old Customs, Old Culture, Old Habits, and Old Ideas. Massive amount of Buddhist statues, ancient scrolls, porcelains were destroyed. As you can see here:

>China = Tang bullshittery.

Chinese culture always fucking changes and is defined by the people of Chinkdom.

Also China isn't Rome where a bunch of autist successor faggots screech "I am Rome" or some shit. Mandate of Heaven stipulates that who holds sway over China is China.

The cultural influence has already happened to people who aren't idiots (aka people who don't use Veeky Forums). I know a lot of people who have read some Chinese poetry (e.g., Han Shan, Shiwu, Wang Wei, etc.), find Chinese cosmology interest, enjoy Chinese music (Guqin), enjoy Journey to the West (1986 CCTV adaptation is still the best), Chinese practices (Tai Chi is pretty popular), and so forth. Only idiot NEETs on /pol/ try to argue Chinese are subhumans and crap like that. People who actually read can see kike-controlled Mao didn't entirely eradicate Chinese culture, like he attempted to do. Just exterminate the kikes and China will be fine, really.

>85 to 90% of the foreigners helping the Chinese at the time of the Communist takeover were Jewish
I would like a better source of this than some documentary. Also, this Rittenberg sounds like a cool guy. He was against the cultural revolution.

I think that's sufficient proof, Schlomo:

"This included the daughter of the founder of the brokerage firm Goldman Sachs, who left the comfort of her Park Avenue home to assist the Chinese."

This stuff isn't unsubstantiated and doesn't come from a vacuum.

>self fulfilling prophecy
>It will be in the future!
Typical commie

Most of the "influence" is degenerate though. I'd argue we're living in the Kali Yuga. In the past, "influence" meant something deeper: that is, influence in tradition and expressions of gnosis coming from them.

Now people are just a bunch of weebs circle-jerking to fanart of 2b from Nier: Automata or something like that, and then yelling, "O I love Nippon," during their orgasms. Let such people wallow in their own filth. While I enjoy the game, I would not place it on the same level as Han Shan or Shiwu, which are transformative and about something deeper than mere aesthetic appeal or gratification. I'd argue we're living in the age of mass entertainment where people can no longer tell high art apart from mid to low grade art. High art is more transformative and about something deeper than mere entertainment.

Anyways, I wouldn't worry about catering to plebs.

Everything about China repulses me.

>implying extrapolation of trendlines isn't an acceptable academic practice
Yes absent of a black swan event china will become a cultural powerhouse

You have an extremely of historical "high" art.
Shakesphere was considered plays for vulgar peasants. You have instances of Roman graffiti of plebeians writing LOL I FUGG YOUR MOM, AUTISTICUS HAS BIG DICK, etc.
High art has survived the ages because it withstands the test of time, not that people are different today than they were yesterday

>You have an extremely
What?

>Shakesphere
Shakespeare was a plagiarizer of Sir Henry Neville, and regardless, the rabble or majority do not determine what is high art.

>not that people are different today than they were yesterday
Yes, people are different due to valuing productivity and rapid industrialization above inner light and communal stability. Their art suffers as a consequence too.

>Everyone brings books on the table but this Jap brings a fucking snek.

China has some good art-house film directors too like Kaige Chen (Farewell my Concubine is one of the best films of all time and praised by many Japanese and Korean intellectuals too) and Yimou Zhang (his best work is Raise the Red Lantern). This meme of modern Chinese being subhumans is largely spread by the rabble who prefer focusing on societal trends rather than intellectual or artistic giants.

>loli porn and NTR
>refined

Looks like more usual run of the mill special effects CGIing and probably developed under close supervision from the CCP. Doesn't even come close to the intellect and poeticness of Nipponian art.

China is better in the art-house film department, but considering how you are most likely a philistine, I doubt you knew that.

You're joking right
>Chuunibyou intensifies
Anime might be one thing, but it sure as hell ain't high art. Not anymore at least

>Time to face reality and know your place. China will reclaim the former glory and be the big boss of Asia as always
>But the time of the Chinks is coming. They are about to unleash an unstoppable wave of cultural autism on the world.
>What can you do about it?
>Keep being mad and insecure, what else can you do...
I know Chinese culture and history is criminally underrated compared to Japan considering this is a weeb website, but this just too cringy, does Chinese people really talks this way?

Nah
Japan is better than China

Only China aesthetic, China still moderately prosperous.

No, Taiwan is

I always feel like these hairstyles were instituted by someone in a position of authority who was going bald so he made it mandatory for people to shave their hair like that so no one would notice.

This is manchu's bullshit, they had mongolian aesthetics.

Its been part of Chinese culture for 400 years at this point

This is only aesthetic, Chinese culture still the very same.

Doesn't the original need to be gone for successors to matter?

It does, China is alive and Japan will regret didn't finishing it on ww2

What do you mean?

It's far common for China to be invaded, usually after 2 or 3 generations they return to they original culture, only maintaining aesthetic. Chinese schools teach something far more similar to Confucius than communism today, for example.

it was a mandated hairstyle because it was geared towards humiliating the Han.

You mean mentality and spirit wise, Chinese remains the same but custom wise, absorbs different cultures?

Yes, aesthetics are just surface of a culture, Confucian's teaching have been followed by 2500, but aesthetics change every 400 years in china

I don't think Manchus have any other fucking Aesthetic besides the dress.

The architecture, material culture, literature, has nothing separating it from Mingshit.

Heck even their military culture didn't separate from Mingshit. The weapons and armor they used I mean. Even the Brigandine commonly associated with the Qing Bannermen was developed in the Ming period.

Haircut, complex dresses, complex architecture.. ming were more minimalist, like japan.

Classical China refers to the Spring and Autumn period through to the end of the Han dynasty. Japan were LARPing as the Tang dynasty, several hundred years after the classical period.

Nothing wrong with complex dresses and architecture user, China has always been grander than japan
While Japan in build in wood, China build in stone, China use dominant red colour architectural wise, while japan use more white and blue except for temples, etc. there's many other differences

You know japan is just a copy of tang

For comparison
True, their first emperor palace was literally copied based on Tang palace, but to be fair, they went on different direction later on by feudal era, pic related

that would surely be Taiwan

also, some of the largest collections of classical Chinese art like landscapes are in the United States :D

No, and why would Japan want to be heir to an inefficient bureaucracy who is now limited to some obscure island?

Is the 'Taiwan is the real China' thing real or is it just an overblown meme? Does it really bear more semblance to traditional China than Japan?

Of course they bear more resemblance to Taiwan than to Japan, even commie China still more resemble traditional China than Japan

>realistic depictions of east asian and european faces in the same room
Well this is no fun

Taiwan up until relatively recently was only inhabited by natives. The Han are a recent introduction there.

>Use Manchu costume and hairstyle as example of modern China example while no one dress like that anymore
>Use modern buildings as example of Traditional Chinese architectures while traditional Chinese architectures are still existed today

Lousiest bait I've ever seen. Time to leave your basement, weeb.

>Doesn't even come close to the intellect and poeticness of Nipponian art.
Lots of your "Nipponian art" are actually "outsourced" to Chinese and Koreans. How long are you going to stay mad and ignorant, weeb?

>It will be in the future
They already exist now, those animes and games are recent stuffs, just a few years old. If they can do it now even if China is not in its prime ,yet, imagine what they can do when China is fully developed.

>Also China isn't Rome where a bunch of autist successor faggots screech "I am Rome" or some shit. Mandate of Heaven stipulates that who holds sway over China is China.
Eh, wrong, China had Tianxia, basically translated as Empire.

Chinese people already know this, considering how many of them visit Kyoto each year.

thisthisthisthisthisthis

The PRC is just yet another Tianxia, if you view it in the eyes of Imperial Chinese Historiography which pretty much says "nothing changes, muh eternal empire."

It's highly evident in the fact that the PRC and the ROC is engaged in this autismal debate over "One China." The debate isn't about who is the legit government of China- the Civil War decided that- but about the language of continuity, a direct legacy of their Imperial Antecedents.

>implying Japs can create better popular culture than this youtube.com/watch?v=Pcu8A_-pu1c&t=113s

China is already changing hollywood movies. Korea or japan doesn't have that much influence

>The debate isn't about who is the legit government of China- the Civil War decided that

user the KMT officially wanted to take back the mainland up until the 90s. They just never tried it because they knew they'd get their shit pushed in

Where does futa belong though?

Princeps probably

The problem with Chinese cinema is that the government officials block, censor, or strip any sort of controversial or racy content, which makes their films dull, soulless, derivative garbage that don't excite emotions. When you can't criticize society or the government, you can only channel that frustration outwards and that doesn't appeal to the international film community. Even Hong Kong cinema, their version of Hollywood, is fucking nigger tier next to Korean or Japanese cinema; their gangster and historical flicks are basically Legalist propaganda. And because no one wants to get arrested for crimes against the state and blacklisted from the industry, no Chinese will push the envelope. This is why fucking Americans thought up of Kung Fu Panda before the Chinks themselves.

Han Chinese culture died when the Manchus took over with the Qing dynasty.

bigger market.

there are more middle class people in china, than there are people in the USA.

Japan has had more cultural impact on the USA than China.

The exact opposite happened. Manchu culture absorbed so much Chinese culture through the 267 years they ruled China that they basically killed off their own identity. The Manchus basically adopted Han culture in order to maintain their claim as rulers of China. Unlike the Mongols before them the Manchus successfully appealed to the Chinese by adopting much of their traditional governmental structures and culture. Manchu emperors learned Chinese and Chinese culture to a point where by the time of Puyi the last emperor, hardly anyone in the imperial court even spoke Manchu. Only their clothing aesthetics really survived and thats only more or less because the Chinese became accustomed to it during that time.

Han Chinese culture remained pretty much exactly as had always been well into the 20th century. Its more realistic to say that Han Chinese culture 'died' when the communists took over China.

>China
>anime
Haha, not with that language, don't tell me you really think they can become culturally relevant by doing bootlegs and copying others? also, even if they animate literal art, not cartoons, it will still sound like trash for everyone else, Chinese culture will never ever have something like Japan's pop culture. On the other side Japan will probably fade a little after everyone gets sick of anime after the 2020 Olympics.

>China
>anime
Haha, they're Chinese anime or cartoons. What can you do about it?

>they can become culturally relevant by doing bootlegs and copying others
Funny, that's exactly what your beloved Japan do.

>Chinese culture will never ever have something like Japan's pop culture
Well they have some already. Have you even see those example videos before you spout shits? There are real examples to show how good they are or can be, but you just keep ignoring them and shitposting, that's' not very persuasive.

I know shitposting about China can compensate your insecurity and make you sleep better at night, but that's about it. You still have to face them in the end.

Let's have some more, shall we?
youtu.be/ERiUtIF23fo
youtu.be/o468PqMvpU0
youtu.be/_8U8kAA6ytY

>China
>anime
Haha, they're Chinese anime or cartoons. What can you do about it?

>they can become culturally relevant by doing bootlegs and copying others
Funny, that's exactly what your beloved Japan do.

>Chinese culture will never ever have something like Japan's pop culture
Well they have some already. Have you even watched those example videos before you spout shits? There are real examples to show how good they are or can be, but you just keep ignoring them and shitposting, that's' not very persuasive.

I know shitposting about China can compensate your insecurity and make you sleep better at night, but that's about it. You still have to face them in the end.

Let's have some more, shall we?
youtu.be/ERiUtIF23fo
youtu.be/o468PqMvpU0
youtu.be/_8U8kAA6ytY

There was in fact a Chinese live-action TV series based on the manga and anime series InuYasha, called The Holy Pearl. It was quite good, so I think Chinese has a shot at this. The Chinese counterpart changes some things inherent to the Japanese original, making it more identifiable with Chinese mythology, but it is largely the same or very similar in structure.

I think that those Manchu haircuts were an unfortunate phase that blighted the people of China. At least the Europeans of partially the same time period had those wigs, often powdered white or other light colors, or had their own hair grown out and styled to resemble them. King Louis XIV was the one that made the wig popular in France, and then soon most European countries, yet even he was going bald or already there, and didn't mandate that everyone share in his fate; "Let's get everyone to wear big fluffy wigs instead." The Han Chinese of the Ming Empire, by comparison, had to submit to shaving large parts of their hairline off.

I think having no culture at all is better than having a "culture" about drawing shitty cartoons with "cute" little girls watched by autistic manchild

Nope, Manchu have nothing to replace Han culture - the very foundation of China, other than hairstyle and costume. Even their costume was partially influenced by Han and Mongols at first.

The fucking commies even did more damage than Manchu during Cultural Degeneration, but the large part of Chinese traditional culture still survives, the oversea Chinese also preserve lots of them. There is nothing you gweilos and weebs can do about it.

Honestly I'm of the opinion that believing the greatest cultural achievement of east asia, is bullshit.
China doesn't need to copy japanese anime, they have the benefit of a ridiculous amount of untapped history to utilize within media (Specifically, historical dramas, probably China's strong suit, unfortunate that most Chinese dramas are made to peddle romance for shekels).
Secondly, China has a much deeper literary culture than the rest of east asia, and in my opinion, comparable to the west (Especially when accounting for lost/destroyed books, many of which probably still exist in deep graves or in forgotten in storages).
What China needs to do, is rediscover it's traditional culture, wait for it's scholars to reach their prime (Since many of them were killed off during the revolution or shipped off to farms), and eventually, China's modern cultural exports will become comparable, and likely even surpass that of Japan and Korea.

Chad Mao Zedong thought > virgin Confucianism

Not possible with the amount of autistic censorship. Art cannot flourish if it is being stifled.

Did Manchus change the culture that much?

The Nips only imitated the Tang Dynasty. Viets, Mongols, Manchus, and Koreans absorbed more Chinese culture then Japan.

Besides the Commies destroyed much of their own heritage thanks to the Cultural Revolution thanks to Mao and his autism. So nobody is the heir to classical China anymore.