Which was THE single most defining moment of WW2?

Which was THE single most defining moment of WW2?

Little boy

Is that your last google search?

My first thoughts for your thread.

Germans losing the battle of Moscow

6th Army getting surrounded at Stalingrad.

fall Gelb succeeding the way it did, the greatest military victory of the past 200 years. Even the top Nazi officials weren't counting on France just tumbling down like that.

>the greatest military victory of the past 200 years

Yeah nah
Barely 134 years earlier, Prussia had been conquered in a mere 19 days

t. Wehraboo

When the war started. That meant war.

Pearl Harbor

Battle of Berlin and subsequently the rape of German women.

Invasion of Poland

Pearl Harbor
That was the moment when the war truly became a World War and Axis lost all hope of victory

When the war ended. That meant peace.

fuck you, you got me

Except no it wasn't, that didn't happen until Germany declared war on the USA a few days later.

alright, you got me there, but still Pearl Harbor made Hitler declare war because Japanese basically forced his hand since you have bigger chance of defeating them together than let the Japs be destroyed alone and facing the USA alone on your own

Independant State of Croatia declaring war to US and UK.

diverting Guderian and Hoth to Kiev

This

Unironically this.

i think it was Bolivias declaration of war which put the nail in the coffin for best germany

Fuck

The Axis lost all hope of victory at Stalingrad retard. Americans had nothing to do with it.

>muh stalingrad

stalingrad was a setback sure

but kursk was the last offensive they were able to launch which is the real turning point imo

no, they lost all hope when Barbarossa failed and they were halted at Moscow
Disasters like Stalingrad and Kursk where inevitable because Soviets had time to regroup and rearm

Objectively the US entry to the war.

If you're looking for battles it's the Battle of Kursk for Europe and the Battle of Midway for the Pacific. Both battles marked the end of Axis operational initiative and the beginning of the final Allied offensives.

Cheeky cunt

Not him but how is the first atom bomb not at least in your top 3 if not THE single most defining moment?

December 7 through 11
Japan attacking the US and Hitler being retarded and declaring war on the US as well. Without that theres no unleashed lend lease, Britain MAYBE makes a seperare peace with hitler, Japan continues to run wild in the pacific. The world is totally different. Yes, barbarossa is a big deal, but something like it happening was pretty much inveitable. This on the other had was ridiculously lucky for the allies.

>Without that theres no unleashed lend lease
You mean, if Japan didn't bomb Pearl Harbor and Germany didn't declare war, FDR would've gone back in time to stop lend-lease that was implemented in the spring of 1941?

September 1st, 1939

Shut up, (((shitposter)))

>Britain MAYBE makes a seperare peace with hitler
Why? Germans weren't even bombing their cities and Sealion was postponed indefinitely by December

>Japan continues to run wild in the pacific
Erm, you do realize the Pacific is American sphere of influence and there's no way the US would allow Japan to take it over, right?

>Britain MAYBE makes a seperare peace with hitler
Why would they. Even without the US they had more manpower, more money and more resources than the Axis. Britain couldn't be invaded. After the Battle of Britain the Allies were always going to win

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Why would the British create a separate peace?

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