Socialism doesn't wor--

He did literally nothing wrong.

No, there was no workers ownership of any means of production, there was no workplace democracy and while it claimed to be very democratic with gadaffi merely as a figure head that is still questionable too.

Moving the goalposts I see. Of course socialism works. Communism will never work.

>the definition of socialism since forever is moving the goalpost
Why don't you go read anything about what socialism is supposed to be before posting about it? Just wikipedia is fine.

Much of the economy was state owned, and the state was owned by the people.

Seriously why does Poland hate Saddam, Gaddafi and Assad? They might have been brutal strongmen but there wasn't a refugee crisis and Poles damn well know it. Does Poland want to be overrun with refugees and ISIS fighters because "muh evil Russian backed dictator?"

Because Poles hate Arabs, and consequently any policies that reduce Arab suffering. Stems back to their role as Defenders of Europe.

>state was owned by the people
No it fucking wasn't and even then, if you had a truly democratic state that owned the entire economy that still wouldn't fall under the definiton of socialism. The worker isn't dirrectly owning his own work, he's still getting his surplus value extracted and he is still getting compensated with a wage or some state subsidy instead. The state would still collect capital, an owning class within the state would form and class tension would still continue.

Because Putinbot, unlike the gullible Russians and gullible people in general who are brainwashed by the Russian state-run media Poland understands that both Saddam Gaddafi and Assad are brutal dictators to their own people and need to be stopped there are they needed to be stopped and it was the Russians who kept these tyrants in power for so long because it's what Russia does and the West is against dictators.

PATHETIC HOW ZIONIST USEFUL IDIOTS, UNABLE TO FORMULATE LEGITIMATE CRITICISMS, CLAIM "NOT REAL SOCIALISM" WHENEVER THEY ARE FRONTED WITH A SUCCESSFUL SOCIALIST NATIONSTATE —EXEMPLI GRATIA: THIRD REICH, NORTH KOREA, GREAT SOCIALIST PEOPLE'S LYBIAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA.

Shut the fuck up spic.
Hitler would have genocided you too.

You cited the Third Reich and North Korea as a successful socialist country. North Korea is a shithole. At least Gaddafi's Libya turned it into one of the most prosperous African states in the world. Gaddafi did some good what has North Korea done except piss off its neighbors.

SINCE I AM ADDRESSING HOW ZIONIST USEFUL IDIOTS CLAIM "NOT REAL SOCIALISM", NOW YOU ARE CLAIMING "NOT SUCCESSFUL" —CLEVER, BUT STILL SPURIOUS AND FALSE.

>The West is against dictators.
Fucking stupid bluepilled Amerifat
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état
geopoliticalmonitor.com/us-interventions-in-latin-american-021/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_assistance_to_Vietnam
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sankara
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia–United_States_relations#Cold_War_relations_.281945.E2.80.931991.29
>Literally American policy in the Middle East

Okay I'm not a Zionist and if you like North Korea so much why don't you go there and see how successful it is. Assuming you're not an American you can still go to the dprk.

>North Korea

Quit shooting yourself in the foot.

Nice try Putinbot I'm not falling for your whataboutism because I've seen it be deployed before against those who are against Russia's imperialist aggression against Ukraine. Even if they were as you put them dictators they weren't as bad as the Russian backed dictators. As I stated before the West opposes dictators while Russia supports them. I support Ukraine do you? I don't think you do because all you are is attacking the west and claiming that we support dictators which we don't it's Russia that supports dictators. Keep undermining America with that anti-American propaganda crap that spewed from Russian State media. You are a puppet of Dugin who advocates in calls for the spreading of anti-American propaganda to suit Russian interests.

>Dugin who advocates in calls for the spreading of anti-American propaganda to suit Russian interests
When has he done so? Not denying it, just want a citation.

Are you retarded? The Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't democratic?

This. Gadaifi was a great man. But he didn't really accomplish socialism more like social democracy from a barrel of a gun

Don't play dumb with me you Russian supporter, he's doing it right now Veeky Forums is an illegal in Russia so so he and his supporters are probably online right now and it's probably you as well that is spreading this anti-American propaganda. Everywhere were you see anti American propaganda it's the work of the Russian propaganda machine and the likes of Dugin that is spreading that propaganda.

>Saddam
Poland is ally of US, so they got dragged into Iraq, just as they did into Afghanistan, as it was extension of that conflict.
>Gaddafi
Pretty sure Poland wasn't involved into that, as there was no official mission, more financing of "freedom fighters". French definitely were though.
>Assad
I do not recall that we are currently involved into Syrian conflict. Definitely no involvement in funding of "moderate opposition".

Not sure if this is bait or schizophrenia.

Why would I be telling you bait? And how is this make me schizophrenic? You are under estimating and downplaying how big of a role Russia plays and spreading propaganda against America and the West. You see Islam is not the problem, it is Russia that is a threat to the West and to our civilization and it is you that is just dismissing me like I'm schizophrenic is all part of the Russian lead propaganda machine to make all opposition and criticism to Russia and their imperialist agenda look bad and say we're schizophrenic or we are mentally ill. We are not and I am not schizophrenic because I'm exposing what Russia is doing by spreading anti-American propaganda.

Russia is the best ally of the United States at present, autist. Both countries have similar geopolitical interests and they could only gain from cooperating with each other but there are powerful lobbies in (((NATO))) and the military-industrial complex that want to prevent this and still prevail in this ridiculous Cold War mentality you seem to have been brainwashed into.

Can't believe you fell by the "Putin is a dictator" meme spread by globalist (((think tanks))) owned by people like (((Soros))) that made millions through speculation against Russia in the 1990s.

Obama signed fpr his death, therefore it was deserved. Fuck off right-wing retards.

>Poles
>Defenders of Europe
Couldn't defeat their way out of a paper bag without another Katyn massacre.

Anybody who constantly has his or her mouth hanging open is dumb cunt and deserves to be hanged

t. Nosebreather

Nice HDI you have there A-rab

Would be shame if something happened to it

Dude, both Russia AND U.S.A are imperialists and have been supporting shit governments and policies for decades.

Very possibly a false flagging vatnik. /k/ are the experts for things like this.

You are both sensationalist and retarded. One talking about "the jeeewws" and the other about "filthy commies".

Socialism is a slow process, it can't happen overnight.

The west is against eastern backed dictators, the east is against western backed dictators. There are no good guys, just geopolitics.

>NK, Third Reich

k

>brutal dictators
>kept stupid stone age religious fanatic barbarians in check
Remind me why they were bad?

Why did the burgers really kill him?

His regime was weak, his country is oil rich and he's been a smudge on our international policy for decades. Better to just stomp the roach.

The French killed him, because they go way back and they hate each other. That whole part of Africa has a sour history with France due to colonial times. I don't actually know who threw first stone, but he had a hand in a terrorist attack on a French plane or some shit, and they bombed his son.

It's quite literally personal between them.

>he had a hand in a terrorist attack on a French plane

There was no evidence.

lefty/his/ flavor of the month in full swing i see
i wonder how long it will take them to address the fallacy this time

>people
>not owning businesses
How does this work?

>no workers ownership of any means of production,
That's communism
Socialism is an amorphous principle that's been around since the dawn of time

Yes, but there's more to it. IIRC, Gaddaffi had promoted the idea that he'd introducing a currency for the North African countries to trade upon, which would've soured the business we run there, à la divide and conquer.

It also didn't sit well with Americans who derive so much from having oil be synonymous with the American dollar, and that could've been disrupted by this new currency (among other things). I don't think that either of the two had a hand in staging the rebellion either, but France and the US did pounce on the occasion to depose him once the protests had matured into full-blown unrest.

Also, if you were referring to this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_8969 , it was Algeria.

not even stalin was fucked up enough to have a rape dungeon

Yeah, I generally don't buy into the "so and so started the rebellion", they come by themselves for a sea of different reasons, but there's always some foreign power waiting to capitalize on it.

Socialism at its core is the idea that everyone in society plays a part in its collective well being, and takes responsibility for that.
Private business owners can do that. It's malarkey and semantics.

>Socialism at its core is the idea that everyone in society plays a part in its collective well being, and takes responsibility for that.
You could say the same thing about fascism and social democracy.

>propped up entirely by oil and disintegrates into a hundred factions all trying to rip each others faces off the second one man is removed
>works