Did the Ottomans produced anything noteworthy? For such a huge empire their cultural legacy seem somehow very weak

>cucked the (f)ersians
No, you didn't. The Persians actually cucked you:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turco-Persian_tradition

"The work of Iranians can be seen in every field of cultural endeavor, including Arabic poetry, to which poets of Iranian origin composing their poems in Arabic made a very significant contribution. In a sense, Iranian Islam is a second advent of Islam itself, a new Islam sometimes referred to as Islam-i Ajam. It was this Persian Islam, rather than the original Arab Islam, that was brought to new areas and new peoples: to the Turks, first in Central Asia and then in the Middle East in the country which came to be called Turkey, and of course to India. The Ottoman Turks brought a form of Iranian civilization to the walls of Vienna. [...] By the time of the great Mongol invasions of the thirteenth century, Iranian Islam had become not only an important component; it had become a dominant element in Islam itself, and for several centuries the main centers of Islamic have the power and civilization were in countries that were, if not Iranian, at least marked by Iranian civilization. [...] The center of the Islamic world was under Turkish and Persian states, both shaped by Iranian culture. [...] The major centers of Islam in the late medieval and early modern periods, the centers of both political and cultural power, such as India, Central Asia, Iran, Turkey, were all part of this Iranian civilization. Although much of it spoke various forms of Turkish, as well as other local languages, their classical and cultural language was Persian. Arabic was of course the language of scripture and law, but Persian was the language of poetry and literature".

-- Bernard Lewis[29]

They brought their food with them

t. balkanigger

Yet Persia was only ruled by Persians for a short intermezzo between 655 and 1500

That's actually pretty original.

The spice trade was killed by the exploration of the americas and the last romans were assimilated by the greeks.

>(f)ersians in charge of history
we ruled you for 1000 years

nice prank

Technically azeris did even if they are oguz turks like us.

It is true though, the silk road and india were relevant as fuck before america was found and the greeks around istanbul thought of themselves as romans till the greeks in greece started their WE ARE SONS OF HELLAS shit.

>Did the Ottomans produced anything noteworthy?
War, division, and lasting enmity.

Yeah, and it was ruled by the Ottomans.... Never.

>killed the remaining romans
The 4th crusade did that, everything afterward was just a giant corpse rotting.

Suleiman the Magnificent spent a lot of time working with arts, culture and science improvements and do I have to mention the Hagia Sophia? That's just two examples. Ottomans did contribute, but yes, they were primarily a military autocracy.

they invented cultural stuff like the cafes and marching bands and some other military stuff
other than that they have almost zero scientific inventions

Coffee houses and coffee drinking culture.

The harem as viewed by the west was popularised by the Ottomans (even if it was dominant in many other cultures preceding it)

Fez hats.

The crescent symbol seen on many flags in the region.

Ridiculously large onion-style turbans and harem pants.

>The 4th crusade did that, everything afterward was just a giant corpse rotting.
>have 200 years to get your shit together
>don't
It was the Turks who officially disabolished the Eastern Roman Empire.

It fucking deserved to be "disabolished" at that point desu.

Why would the crusaders that was supposed to help the byzantines backstab them?

>central hungary
>fucking slovakia
>not even upper hungary
explain

Northern Hungary elected the >Holy >Roman >Emperor as king of Hungary after the Ottomans destroyed the Hungarian army at Mohács. Eastern Hungary didn't join tge Austrians and remained pseudo-independent under heavy Turkish influence

Yeah it's retarded. That region was never called "central Hungary" literally ever.
>Northern Hungary elected the >Holy >Roman >Emperor as king of Hungary
Not "northern" Hungary but Upper Hungary. And later they splintered and the bigger part became an Ottoman vassal because the Habsburgs were faggots who banned protestantism.

>BRRRR*PT
Sory, friens. But you guis are meanys

The hagia Sofia was a church long before ottomans owned Constantinople. All the ottomans did was add 4 minarets

I'm on my phone right now so I can't explain in details but research it. Trust me it's comedy gold.

Those onion hats are fuckin sick

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Crusade
Pope Innocent III himself excommunicated the crusaders for what they did to their fellow christians.

le onion xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
wh*Te subhuman

Kinda hard when your constantly fighting on all your borders and When you finally recapture your capital its drained of its wealth and population.

Gave Islam a symbol.
Gave Europe coffee addiction so we could be different to those inbred islanders sipping on Chinese shit.

They also introduced Europe to musket armies (Europe still used muskets as a supporting weapon, Ottomans were the ones who came up with the idea of using it as a primary weapon). That stuff literally reshaped the nature of warfare and continues to be the military dogma to this day.
Pretty fucking impressive if you ask me.

Between them and Safavid Iran: a stable middle east.

It's not really so much something they produced but a consequence of their existence.
Europeans were so reluctant to deal with the rapacious plague-roaches that they literally set sail in an uncertain direction, hoping that they would eventually find a route to India which didn't involve dealing with Ottomans.
As for their actual contributions, there honestly aren't any. It's important to remember they're not a civilized people but rather a people living in a civilization - be it Greek, Mesopotamian, Roman or Egyptian.
It's the difference, the Romans receded in the Occident and for a long time thereafter savages occupied that which they had built. Eventually however, the English (for example) not only proved themselves worthy of antiquity but exceeded their achievements. Newton was the first to truly surpass the magnitude of Euclid, Shakespeare, could if he so pleased, take his place with Aeschylus.
Other European peoples have similar histories, the Ottomans/Turks however do not and that Is why they have never been considered European.
Take this for proof, after being humbled by the Persians in the 17th century Sultan Ahmet I sought to assert the worthiness of his people. (bear in mind this is near enough their high point) He decided to build a mosque to eclipse the grandeur of the Byzantine basilica. Despite his power, inordinate wealth as well as centuries of apparent development he could not build anything as grand as that monument to Christendom, built by Greeks over a thousand years prior.
The Hagia Sophia is still the jewel of Constantinople.

>that wall of wh*Te screeching
disgusting

>osmanska-imperija
Spotted the balija.

It was relatively peaceful and multicultural up until the 18th century but that internal peace came at the cost of oppressive taxes and the Devshirme blood tax. Artistically and technologically they did not produce anything of note. Even as the forefront Islamic empire there was no "Ottoman theology", it was just one big administrative clusterfuck, the Arabs pioneered that and still are.

They continued the Greek tradition of pederasty and rampart homosexuality.

The crescent symbol was actually part of Byzantine military heraldry and the symbol of the city of Constantinople. Further back it was a symbol of the Artemisian cult in Asia Minor.

It was the first photo I nabbed off of Google that came up under Ottoman Jannisaries.

>the English (for example) not only proved themselves worthy of antiquity but exceeded their achievements
No germanics is worthy of something

Fuck you, you just destroyed them and then learned from them

Again

Fuck you, germanic

cringe

I'm serious, though. It wasn't even a taboo, the Sultan openly had boys in his harem. Goes to show how Islam was just a political tool to the Ottomans.

look at me you retarded wh*Te inbred subhuman, pederasty came from the fucking East. not from Greeks or the West. Ever heard of Bacha Bazi?
i'm tired of subhumans like you wh*Tewashing literally everything. eat shit and die wh*Te subhuman.

Wew.

>French crusaders expect a huge number of crusaders to join, ~30k
>hire Venetians to ferry them to Egypt in the largest naval fleet seen in the Mediterranean since Roman times
>Venetians devote the entirety of their economy to preparing the fleet
>OOPS, the main preacher died, expected number falls
>OOPS, some crusaders leave from Genoa to go straight to Jerusalem, not recognizing that cutting off Egyptian support will make things easier on the crusaders kingdoms
>OOPS, crusaders take all summer and into fall to actually show up in Venice
>OOPS, there's not enough money to pay Venetians or fully supply everyone
>sack Zara to appease Venetian fears that leaving the Adriatic with their full military might fuck them if a belligerent city is around, this let's the debt be deffered
>still no money or supplies, Boniface and Angelos cook up plan to put Angelos back in control of Constantinople (a common occurrence in Byzantine history is for a legit heir to come to the walls with a foreign army and let the people decide what to do) and then aid crusaders
>put Angelos back in contol, dries up Byzantine treasury trying to pay debnts to crusaders
>Byzantines not happy, dethrone Angelos
>Crusaders not happy, Venetians breach sea walls and open the city
>citizens think Boniface (legit claim to throne by marriage) is going to claim regency and calmly welcolme "his" army
>MISUNDERSTANDINGS, the city gets sacked

Them falling (no more caliph, divided middle-east) had a bigger effect on world history than them existing

Know your place, Yakub's spawn.

>For such a huge empire

The Turkish population was tiny as hell compared to Europe. In 1900 the Turkish population was 10 million compared to Europes 400 million. Today it's 50 million vs 700 million.

wh*Tes are just so weak that Turks conquered way more land then they knew what to do with.

1 TÜRK (BLACK) worths 20000 wh*Te peasants

the ottoman economy used land as a reserve like you'd use precious metals, so to sustain themselves they HAD to conquer more land, with their administrative system constantly unwinding which would only temporarily be reversed by the occasional strong ruler/vizier

Think of how many great civilizations the Arabs and Turks have destroyed, they didn't learn so much as learn from them.
Only a moron would blame the British for the collapse of the Roman Empire or ebbing of Hellenism.
Are you a moron?

Kebab/Gyros
Baklava
Yoghurt
Coffee
Etc.

Why do fuck do Germ girls wear şalvars like old Turkish viligers

Yes - but they are the main reason why so many Islamic nations adopted it.

NE VOLIM TE ALIJA

=U=

Basically this; coffee (and the dzezva/cezve to cook it in), halva, ratluk, doner kebab, cevapi etc. Other than that, I think their army was the first one to come up with marches and bands to perform them

are you fucking daft
pretty much all the ""ottoman"" food is a fusion of Greek, Arab, Bulgarian/Serbian/random balkan/ and Mediterranean cuisines

>Europeans were so reluctant
* couldn't

Im mentioning the ones which are specifically Ottoman derived of course
Notice that the name of the food mentioned all have Turkish origin

Pretty sure they really turned military music to a whole new level.
But in the end they were warrior barbarians following a faith that was in it's intellectual twilight, so not many cultural achievements, other than fucking greece so much the greeks today are shit.

Japs did the mass muskets first and even the volley fire before the swedes.
Sasuga Nobunaga dama da.
Also europeans were already heavy on using the crossbow who's natural evolution was the small firearm, see the spanish tercios.

no they dont, dumbass

How?

Balkava for example, is a greek name

Sources?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baklava
>The word baklava is first attested in English in 1650,[4] a borrowing from Ottoman Turkish بقلاوه /bɑːklɑvɑː/.[5][6] The name baklava is used in many languages with minor phonetic and spelling variations.

>Historian Paul D. Buell argues that the word "baklava" may come from the Mongolian root baγla- 'to tie, wrap up, pile up' composed with the Turkic verbal ending -v;[7] baγla- itself in Mongolian is a Turkic loanword.[8] Armenian linguist Sevan Nişanyan considers its oldest known forms (pre-1500) to be baklağı and baklağu, and labels it as being of Proto-Turkic origin.[9] Another form of the word is also recorded in Persian, باقلبا (bāqlabā).[10] Though the suffix -vā might suggest a Persian origin,[11][12] the baqla- part does not appear to be Persian and remains of unknown origin.[13]

>Although the history of baklava is not well documented, its current form was probably developed in the imperial kitchens of the Topkapı Palace in Istanbul.[15] The Sultan presented trays of baklava to the Janissaries every 15th of the month of Ramadan in a ceremonial procession called the Baklava Alayı.[16][17]

Central Hungary is above Buda castle????

what did you expect from the ottomemes

>We gave culture to the balkan rapebabbies
That was the roman empire (incl. ERE) you retard.

yeah, like colonialism and ottoman imperialism

How did Ottomans manage to make it all the way to Vienna? wew

REEEEE DELET THIS

I guess if it wasn't for the Ottomans there wouldn't be european colonialism

Corruption and bribery.

All bribe related words in Romanian are Turkish loans (bacsis, ciubuc etc).

unironically the entire Ottoman legacy

that's a comfy legacy though

I mean, that's wrong but whatever you say.

I just took byzantium as prussia in eu4