The Greatest Story Never Told

such original comment. so unexpected. well done sir.

lmfao butthurt

Watch it. Most of the shit is true.

You unironically should.
You have a containment board for a reason.
Your autistic memeing isn't funny it's pathetic

It's not. It's dindu nuffin: the movie.

>5-6 hours of he dindu nuffin
no thanks. i get enough of that stuff on almost every website where i go these days

You don't need to watch the entire thing. Most of the stuff is stolen from other documentaries and movies with added neonazi propaganda.

It's laughable propaganda shit. Poor Hitler dindu just wanted to protect persecuted minorities and those aggressive countries around him decalred war on him.
Get fucked none of this have any basis in facts.

>Unironically buying into /pol/ propaganda

>literally unprovoked assault
also
kys you literal 50IQ retard

HE A GOOD BOI AN SHIET

thegoldenone said it was good, and he has mucles, does that invalidate or validate it?

>thegoldenone said it was good, and he has mucles, does that invalidate or validate it?
he looks like an inbred retard

>wrongthink

Is this the hot new stormnigger buzzword? It's all you faggots can spout since 'cuck' fell out of favour.

>being a subhuman who's presence is literally detrimental to the rest of civilized society
>unprovoked
Lel, look mom, I'm a Nazi too. Drink some of your own fuhrer koolaid and off yourself subhuman

>most

Congratulations, you are now aware of how propaganda works.

hahaha first guy i thought of when i opened this thread. The Golden "you can't take part in any discussion if you haven't seen TGSNT" One.

Three painful truths for all apologists

1. There was no III Reich economic miracle

2. Germany together with USSR are to blame for World War II

3, Both commited some of the worst war crimes in recent history as a part of their official state policy

The doc negaters all of that, calls Einsatzgruppen anti-terrorist organization, SS as the most diverse military unit in history and feels secure to only discuss other crimes by non-German partisan groups and of course dedicates an entire episode to Dresden.

He doesn't really reply to his comments, there's not really much discussion on his channel.

No, it's not true, and you didn't really open this thread to get an answer, you opened it so your stormshit buddies could respond with "yeah" and "totally" and "it really opened my eyes" amd attract gullible retards into your cult.
Do this shit on /pol/, this is a board for history so most people know at least basics. You won't get recruits here. You mental nigger.

Dennis Wise is not a historian. Dennis Wise is not even any famous documentary director with years of experience in the medium. The only famous Dennis Wise on the internet is a former English football player, manager and Executive Director at Newcastle United. But that is not the Dennis Wise who made this film. Our Dennis Wise, is described [1] as "an independent film maker with a background in entertainment and media. Apart from researching and producing documentaries, today he still produces private videos for clients." Ouch. If revisionist sources themselves cannot hail this man's academic qualifications to direct a supposedly educational and game-changing historical documentary, things are looking dire indeed. I have also now come to know that Dennis Wise believes in the "New World Order".

But enough with the character assassination, right? Let's look at what this film has to offer. TGSNT's 6.5 hour message is basically a reversal of what historians have concluded. I.e. it instead says Hitler = good guy, Allies = jew controlled bad guys. Its narrative basically says Germany was about to win WW1 but (((they))) brought America into the war, then enforced a totally unfair treaty of Versailles on a totally non-belligerent nation, and therefore Hitler was the correct answer, how there is no real evidence for the holocaust and how allied bombing raids killed a gazillion innocent German civilians. Let's take The Greatest Meme Never Told's claims apart piece by piece, shall we?

CLAIM 1: "Germany, the would-be victor, was screwed over at the end of WW1 by the treaty of Versailles. It was also stabbed in the back (Dolchstoßlegende)[2] by its own people, mostly jews"

Fact 1: Germany declared war on Russia and not the other way round. Fact 2: Germany declared war on France and not the other way round. Fact 3: Germany marched through Belgium and brought Britain into the war. Fact 4: Austria-Hungary wanted to avenge the archduke Franz Ferdinand's assassination by Gavrilo Princep and punish Serbia and hoped Germany would shield it from Russian aggression, and Germany's actions did not help here in the slightest. Fact 5: Germany had plans to back Mexico in regaining her territories lost to the US. Fact 6: Germany sank the Lusitania.

Fact 7: Some 320,000 Jews joined the German armed forces in World War I, and 12,000 Jewish soldiers died fighting FOR Germany. The Iron Cross was awarded to 18,000 German Jews in World War I.[3] Austria-Hungary's military forces had an even higher Jewish death toll: 40,000.[4]

All these facts are the reason historians conclude Germany was an aggressor rather than victim during World War I, rather than Dennis Wise and his revisionist buddies' claim that Jews were disloyal to Germany/Austro-Hungary and tried to bring about their defeat.

If we define "colonialism" as a foreign power (in terms of language, customs, culture) ruling over another, then Austria-Hungary was a colonial empire whose colonies weren't located overseas, but within Europe. The Austrians and Hungarians were ruling over a multitude of different ethnicities (Czech, Croat, Bosniak, Slovak, Slovene, Serb, etc.) whose identities and languages were often suppressed by the government. Anybody who condones Britain, France, Spain etc. losing their colonies should also be happy that Austria-Hungary lost its colonies after its defeat in WW1 via the treaties of Saint-Germain and Trianon. Similarly, the areas Imperial Germany lost via the Treaty of Versailles, it had earlier gained by conquest; the ethnic populations in these territories weren't just Germans, but also French (Alsace) and Poles (Pommerania, Silesia). Still crying "unfair" that colonial aggressors are punished for a great war, is ludicrous.

CLAIM 2: "Jewish elements tried to overthrow the German government via communist revolution in 1918 (Novemberrevolution)"

Let us first remind ourselves that these revisionists pointing out how utterly traitorous an attempted coup d'état is, are the ones defending Hitler, who however tried to do just this, i.e. overthrow the government in Bavaria in November 1923 (Beer Hall Putsch) and was jailed as a result. Hypocrite, much? What's with Novembers and attempted coups anyway (remember remember, the 5th of November: Guy Fawkes Night, Nov 5th 1605).

The Novemberrevolution in 1918 was NOT started by Jews, but by a German sailor mutiny called the Kiel mutiny[5]. This snowballed into a nationwide revolution that resulted in the Kaiser abdicating and handing over power to the Social Democrats, who in turn were tried to be overthrown by Communists and this failed. The leader of the latter was Karl Liebknecht[6] who was NOT a Jew, no matter how many dumb right wing sites claim (without source) to say otherwise. In any case, the Novemberrevolution did not claim many lives at all, compared to actual bloody revolutions like the French or Russian revolutions.

CLAIM 3: "Hitler created millions of Jobs and performed the greatest miraculous economic recovery in the history of any nation"

I'm so tired of this "derp Hitler fixed the economy" meme that is spouted even by many ignorant normal people to this day. The actual dude in charge of repairing the economy was Hjalmar Schacht. Schacht realised the economy of Germany was entirely unsustainable without some reforms, otherwise conquests would be necessary to fund it. The actual Nazis (Göring, Hitler,..) made sure to kick him out especially because they did not agree with his economic policies that helped revive the German economy.

Yes, Schacht was a member of the Nazi Party but he also publicly expressed his disgust at the treatment of the Jews as soon as 1938, and tried to co-conspire against Hitler after 1938. So I'd hardly call this man a Nazi. It is my view (though I'm not a historian) that this man helped reform the German economy and get it out of a depression, despite the Nazis being in power.

Let me stress this again: Hitler didn't fix the economy, Hjalmar Schacht did. Hitler then fired him and ran the economy into the ground again.[7]

Even if you assume that Hitler fixed the economy (he didn't), you still can't separate that from the fact that the German economy was essentially converted into a war machine dependent upon its upcoming conquest and looting, which in turn set the stage for a genocidal campaign through Eastern, Central, and Southern Europe...all of this ending with the complete collapse of the German state, its defeat in an unwinnable war, and its partition subsequently. If you're judging by immediate legacy, Hitler was the worst economic leader ever (even restricting that to just the German people he deemed racially worthwhile).

Buckle up user. After watching it I had an existential crisis

CLAIM 4: "Jews made up 2% of Germany's population but made up 50% of media, 70% of judges, and nearly 100% of the banking system."

An unsourced claim therefore, as the Hitchens Razor goes: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

CLAIM 5: "Hitler was compassionate toward Jews by letting them emigrate to Palestine."

It wasn't Hitler who collaborated with Jewish groups, rather the other way round: Jewish groups tried to broker a deal with the early National Socialist leadership in helping them with their goal of getting Jews out of Germany via the Haa'vara Agreement.[8] This only saved the lives of 60,000 Jews. They saved their asses via a shitty deal rather than remaining in the Reich until things worsened to the point of ghettos and forced deportation to concentration and extermination camps. The strawman here, is that Dennis Wise is being deliberately quiet about the Functionalist (rather than Intentionalist) view historians have about the holocaust, and builds the strawman that if Hitler physically exterminated the Jews, he would have done so in the very beginning itself and since he didn't in good ol' 1933, he clearly had no intention to do it 1940-45.

I wouldn't claim the NSDAP allowing emigration to Palestine an act of compassion either, because one of Hitler's pals was Haj Amin al-Husseini[9], who was trying to work out a genocidal plan with Hitler in dealing with Jews pouring into the Palestine region.

>conflating 19th century memeshit like colonialism with how traditional monarchies worked
>he think Austria was "foreign" in Bohemia
Neck yourself.

CLAIM 6: "Hitler's invasion of Poland (Polenfeldzug) was justified because Poland was being genocidal toward ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) in its territories."

WRONG! The event alleged in TGSNT as "the Danzig massacre" is a hoax; what Dennis Wise is most likely referring to is rather an event known as "Bloody Sunday" which took place in Bromberg (today the city of Bydgoszcz) and firstly happened three days AFTER the German invasion of Poland and secondly many of the involved Volksdeutsche were in reality part of a poorly trained Pro-Nazi paramilitary force called the Selbstschutz who attacked the organized Polish Army during the German invasion and got the shit wrecked out of them as a result. When the Wehrmacht came across this, they reported their deaths back to Nazi leadership in Germany who used it for propaganda purposes ("muh innnocent defenseless German civilians hacked to death by Polish barbarians") to justify their invasion of Poland that had already begun via false flag (Gleiwitz incident[10]) and subsequent reprisals against the Polish populace once the nation was erased from the world map for the next 6 years and turned into a new entity known as the Generalgouvernement.

Also, Poland never owned Danzig during the pre-war time. It was a free city under administration by the League of Nations. The war started because Hitler wanted the Danzig corridor. When Poland refused to just hand the area over as had been the case with Czechia ceding the Sudetenland and getting entirely annexed in the progress while the world remained silent, Hitler invaded.

it doesn't even have narration. what is mr. "wise" hiding?

>There will never be 'Anudda Shoah'.
>You will never grind Jews into powder and use them to stoke a boiler.
>You will never purchase a genuine Jew-skin couch.
>You will never force Jews to clean out the showers of Jews with soap made of Jews.
>You will never create a lampshade out of a jew scalp.
>You will never drag a live Jew into an oven by their nose.
>You will never construct the Holocoaster.
Why even live?

CLAIM 7: "Hitler offered a 16 point peace plan to Britain after the fall of France which the warmongering British refused."

The world had learned Hitler's "peace offers" werent worth the paper they were written on after what happened with his Munich Agreement[11]. In any case the peace plan was shitty because it effectively gave Germany control over all areas it had conquered.

CLAIM 8: "Red cross documents disprove the holocaust" and various other empty claims.

My blog deals with and refutes these and many more: imgur.com/a/725A7. The "red cross" denier claim is dealt with here (erase .jpg ending from links in your browser's URL bar to see my attached articles):

imgur.com/F9nYZg3
imgur.com/b6nOxur
i.imgur.com/xJCzhbc
i.imgur.com/CnUkPXn
imgur.com/TAmbcYf
i.imgur.com/cBtFYFh

CLAIM 9: "Allied fire bombing of Dresden and other cities with inflated death tolls" and other atrocity propaganda

Refuted here: i.imgur.com/k3kukxO

CLAIM 10: "Eisenhower's death camps"

Vastly exaggerated numbers made famous by Canadian fiction author James Bacque's novel "Other Losses", refuted here: i.imgur.com/yao6lgo

So overall, while Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told might be gospel/preaching to the choir to the white supremacist and/or antisemite, and perhaps even appear convincing to the average layperson on the street "with an open mind" who only possesses a rudimentary middle school education, people who have studied history even a little bit will immediately be able to spot its many many errors, strawmen, lack of sources and vastly exaggerated claims with which it hopes to concoct a whitewashing of National Socialist Germany and at the same time atrocity propaganda against Allied powers. TGSNT is debunked, and people who claim it isn't, are in denial (no pun intended). What's more, the length of this film can be drastically cut if it skips all the long sections where there is no narration and merely video reels of not much significance accompanied by the same overused soundtrack again, and again, and again. TGSNT is already tedious enough to watch, it's almost like Dennis Wise wants people to not watch it all the way...

Sources:
[1]: redice.tv/red-ice-radio/adolf-hitler-the-greatest-story-never-told
[2]: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth
[3]: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Jewish_military_personnel_of_World_War_I
[4]: geni.com/projects/German-Austro-Hungarian-Jewish-Soldiers-Killed-in-WWI/12439
[5]: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiel_mutiny
[6]: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Liebknecht
[7]: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht
[8]: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
[9]: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini
[10]: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
[11]: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

Yes, but it doesn't give the full picture of the war. It just gives you a TLDR of what fascists believe happened in Nazi Germany.

Of course most people.just scoff
>Ha? You think ANYTHING I think is WRONG? History is a SCIENCE, and I'm it's EDISON
>Fuck off you Nazi punks fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
Etc. It's just endless sperging because they can't handle the fact that history isn't exact

It's true tho. You're angry because he said someone you didn't like. It's that simple.

stop defacing ben garrison, leftypol.

Imagine being so butthurt that whenever someone contradicts your worldview you have to perform a gish gallop just to shut down any discussion via a copy pasta.

"history is written by the victor and is not black and white" is a weak argument when this documentary spreads bullshit and made up claims to make Nazi Germany seem better.

That's called "disagreement". Go fuck yourself with your attempt at making any opposition to your little cult into a Orwellian conspiracy.

Yeah dude all (((history))) is a lie but somehow some autistic underachievers on internet found out the truth.
Get the fuck out of here. Not because you're a Hitlerboo, but because you don't understand how stuff works.

>Over half of his sources are from wikipedia
Hold on, you went through the effort to create a massive gish gallop copy pasta and you couldn't even be asked to cite actual sources?

Imagine being so butthurt that whenever someone contradicts your worldview you have to post a 6 hour video of Dennis Wise fellating Hitler, on a Taiwanese card magic forum, every day.

So "Danzig massacre" came from this "documentary"? Because even the Nazi propaganda didn't mention any massacres in Danzig.

>he thinks it's still 2005 and Wikipedia doesn't have sources or citations

>brainlet subhuman can't come up with an argument
> attack references to wikipedia even though wikipedia literally has a references section
SAD!

But you people do exactly that. Just go to any thread on /pol/. You just post infographs and claim same shit over and over.
At least he cited his claims. And I still didn't see a single Hitlerboo actually adress his points. It's just ad hominem or dumb quips like (((jewpedia))).

Tis not an argument

stick to /pol/ for your recruitment efforts faggot

>History is not black and white doesn't apply when history doesn't agree with me therefore it has to be a our a priori
As I said, it's just endless sperging because people have an emotional reaction to seeing their worldview be contradicted
Oh yes, because the only people who are sympathetic to Hitler are all *insert stereotype and strawman*. Of course. How silly of me, there has never been an academic debate between those sympathetic to Hitler and those not. Like, ha, when has that ever happened.

That just tells you how uneducated these people are. Danzig literally elected local NSDAP into power.

>that image
Yeah... cause a movement run by an Austrian autist, a chicken farmer, a cripple, and a fat druggie pervert... and which sided with Muslims and Japanese against Poles, Czechs, French, and English... and which murdered more Europeans in 12 years than Muslims have in the last 100 years... and which set up slave labor camps and death camps... and which put men like Dirlewanger and Mengele in positions of power... can be considered some sort of bulwark against degeneracy and for European values?
Give me a fucking break.

Thats still a nice wrongthink you got there, buddy.
>disagreement
kek

Aren't redpill threads on /pol/ full of pics and infographics with fabricated sources. Or no sources at all? Like the ones about Poland wanting to start a war with Germany or about Churchill's desire to destroy Germany dating back to mid 1930s? All turned out to be 100% lies. And there were many more cases of fake quotes and pictures that were photoshoped for the purpose of "debunking" them. When the supposed enlightened and redpilled individuals who learned the truth choose to lie to our faces I have no choice but to feel skeptical about the purity of their intent.

>if I swap words around it'll sound like there's a giant conspiracy against me
>please disregard that itself is Orwellian

Yeah. Why not cute the fucking sources that wikipedia has in it's citations you brainlet moron.

How lazy do you have to be? Not only that but in your pasta you put in onomatopoeia like "ugh". Can you he any more hilariously making appeals to the majrority
>God, aren't you guys just so sick of seeing people disagree with you, my gosh it's like how don't you get that I'm right a priori yet lmao

"Danzing" was a city with 90% German population that was an independent city-state where Poland had two official building and whose people were persecuted by the majority.
Literally single worst city to be chosen as a neonazi hoax about some massacre. Might as well choose Berlin.

Where are the mods/janitors?

>My blog deals with and refutes these and many more: imgur.com/a/725A7. The "red cross" denier claim is dealt with here (erase .jpg ending from links in your browser's URL bar to see my attached articles):
>my blog
>blog
holy fuck, back to tumblr you faggot

>6-hours long propaganda video
>hey how dare you address every claim point by point!
Who's trying to pull a gish gallop now?

Yes, every single person sympathetic to a man who started a terrible war, ruined Europe and caused the death of tens of millions is not a person who's mentally well. He's either terribly ignorant or he's lying for political purposes. There is no third option.
Just reading Mein Kampf will show you what kind of a lunatic he was. But problem is 90% of Hitlerboos never read it.
So they claim shit like "Hitler never wanted to invade anyone and he loved Slavs" even though he literally outlines future German conquest of east and colonization in chapter XIV.
But let me guess, it's probably (((fake edition))) or something. Phew.

>Wasn't everything /pol/ ever said wrong
No?
>Everything /pol/ said was false like Poland being aggressive and wanting to start wars
Except Poland was aggressive, and Germany + Poland could've had a log drawn out war had the Soviets not done a joint invasion with the Germans.

>REEEEEEEEEEEEE DON'T REFUTE MY PROPAGANDA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>literally unprovoked assault
I agree, but the /pol/ support unprovoked assault

>It is my view (though I'm not a historian) that this man helped reform the German economy and get it out of a depression, despite the Nazis being in power.
Every country got out of the depression, Nazis or not. That's just how economy works. Of course the heavily interventionist Nazi policy helped make the German economy one of the slowest recovering economies in the world.

Its obviously propaganda but so is the mainstream information

>Poland was aggressive

I'm sure you have excellent sources for that?

for you big goi

Thanks user

>/pol/tards are such lazy faggots they can't even go search through sources like any real historians would
Why does /pol/ want to turn Veeky Forums into a safespace for their intellectually inferior ideology?

That's your best argument?

Except it's a 6 hour long documentary meant to take a long fucking time to digest, it's not spamming arguments so fast that no one is going to address them

That's how gish gallop works ffs, no one has time to digest and talk about every point in the documentary because it's also divided up into small segments for a reason.

You're just artificially prolonging the discussion in order to make it look like you have an argument. As I said, these kind of tricks don't work in a place where people actually know basics about history, and are somewhat intellectual. Go recruit somewhere else. You're wasting your time.

Their annexation of the upper part of Czechoslovakia and constant bickering with Germany over Danzig, as well as them seizing land from Germans early on in the creation of their country?

They taunted Hitler the whole time because "what are you going to do, invade us when we have the support of France and Britain defending us" ?
>We're keeping the German lands lol

My argument for what?

Not everyone is as dumb as you, nigger. And adress his points. Stop crying about style and what not.

>Go
>""""Recruit"""""
I'm just trying to have a dialectical discussion here.
>Everyone who disagrees with me and my worldview has malevolent intentions
>But it's /pol/ who is paranoid
Sure kiddo.

Aggressive how? It didn't initiate violence and didn't express any desire to wage war against Germany despite two countries not being best friends obviously.
I've read lots and lots of press and magazines from that era and I think that before Hitler Poles were very receptive towards German culture and liked German actors like Dietrich or Veidt despite German government engaging in some tarrif wars and generally being quite passive aggressive.
Things went worse during Hitler's rule in the mid 30s but politically it was the only period when there were talks about some kind of agreement. Never happened though.
So no warmongering speech or action. /pol/ is wrong.

>tfw fascist sympathizer
>tfw your only political allies are retards like this who wank over a failed regime

>Poland declaring independence on previously Polish lands which had Polish majority is "seizing land from Germans"
Those "German lands" were occupied by Prussians in late 18th century. They were "German" only in the sense they colonized them with some Germans, and ruled over them.
>Czechoslovakia
Literally occupied by Germans AFTER they gave away German-majority lands.
And ironically Germans there did same thing Poles did, difference being is that those lands never belonged to Germany. But you're fine with that. I wonder why...

>About style
M8, he took a few hours out if his life to create a copy pasta no one has the time to argue against as a whole. This is the same shit /pol/ does in holocaust denial threads where it spams copy pasta that no one ever responds to, or if they do they just
>Lol I'm not reading that go back to /pol/
Or make ad homs.

Gish gallop is shit tier no matter who does it :/

>They were aggressive
>By invading part of another country alongside Germany

Sure thing Hans.

>Not everyone is as dumb as you, nigger
>adress

Are you Jewish? You sound Jewish.

Not an argument.

>wanders in and posts a highly controversial video
>keeps on defending it even when it's being debunked point by point

Yeah, you're just asking questions, right? Fuck off you slimy shit. At least have the balls to admitb what you're doing.

Yes, you have malevolent intentions. Anyone who thinks Hitler was a cool guy has malevolent intentions. Not just that, you're dumb as fuck on top of that. Nazis were for all purposes less succesful Stalinists, in absolute terms.
So you're the worst type of person, deluded, malevolent, and incompetent.

>Ignoring everything that happened with Danzig between Germany and Poland with the abysmal failure of the League of Nations to resolve the conflict

(((Not))) (((an))) (((argument)))

You could start by arguing against a single point he made. Yet you can't, because his post is 100% correct. So you avoid that and you bitch about irrelevant things.
I'm not a native English speaker.

>instantly starts screaming that everyone opposed to him is Jewish
>while claiming to be just innocently asking questions

I thought they taught English in Israel.