Here's some philosophical shit that's fucked me up

i've been using kek for a long time and i've been on Veeky Forums since 08, so you're accusations are simply not true. again, your need to accuse any kind of nihilistic opinion as childish confirms again that you are indeed trying to avoid answering OP's concerns and questions, poisslby because you can't handle them or because you are so caught up in the world that his post confounds your sense of meaning in the world where OP sees none.

Because it's such a counterproductive stance on life.
>Life is meaningless and empty, but I dont want to kill myself.

Nobody but yourself can give your life meaning. You can argue all night about how everything is just chemical reactions, pointless when faced with the certainty of death and bla bla bla, but unless you want to bite a bullet you better find something that gives life meaning and stop sulking or your existence will be horrible untill the day you die.

Go go smoke a joint, listen to some music, join a religion, go skydive, shot some heroin. It's up to you.

Stop bringing everybody down with statements about how the sky is blue and that is somehow a bad thing.

>inb4 muh depression
go see a therapist or end yourself, cause frankly, nobody cares.

who are you trying to convince

thanks for the first real reply. my life circumstances are fine, no poverty or struggle, but my life isn't super fun or eventful, and I have a tendency to "think too much", overanalyze, and dwell about things and situations, which is probably the perfect life conditions to cause constant "overanalysis" of the meaning of life.

I've realized that due to the nature of nihilism, it can't be legitimately shut down and refuted. Which also helps to make it kinda pointless. I like the way you put it though. Just do it because you already exist and there's no point sulking so make it yours.

Even if its super pointless to think this way though, I'm still going to keep hoping that there is a god, or some sort of spiritual shit is real or something.

>baby's first void

>Because it's such a counterproductive stance on life.
I agree, but I'm not OP.

>Nobody but yourself can give your life meaning.
I agree. But this is essentially saying "you must create an illusion to yourself your whole life." I don't really care about the reduction of the mind to a machine as OP is concerned about, but I'm more concerned that the idea of defining meaning on your life means that your always setting your self on shaky foundations, as one's framework of meaning is likely to collapse several times over one's life, as a result of life pressures, therefore raising the point whether one can ever be genuine or true to oneself if one's self conception is subject to constant changing from outside forces.

>stop sulking or your existence will be horrible untill the day you die.
That's not what Op's saying really. He clearly doesn't want to be in this situation, and says that he tried to suppress if for years. But then again it seems like he's gotten into a pattern or repetitive and self-defeating thoughts that are probably wreaking havoc in his life. not good.

>Stop bringing everybody down with statements about how the sky is blue and that is somehow a bad thing.
this is literally what a callous normie says when he doesn't want to be bothered by someone else's problems. why even bother replying to the thread?

>go see a therapist or end yourself, cause frankly, nobody cares.
quite manipulative frankly. "just bee yourself find meaning in life bro XDD... but really nobody cares about you anyway lmao youre a loser". yes very reassuring to OP

i have nobody to convince i feel like playing the devil's advocate for once in this type of thread

>I like the way you put it though. Just do it because you already exist and there's no point sulking so make it yours.
now you get it.

That's why most think it's a imature thought to have.

Even though life is inevitably pointless, sitting around moping about it is even more pointless.

The reason it gets such a negative reaction is because it's literally "babby's first philosophy" and every 15 year old suburbanite who realized "woah man, nothing matters," thinks it's the deepest shit ever.

It's boring, to put it plainly, and we've discussed it ad nauseam on this board.

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well, i already understood that back in the past. its just that at the time i thought of that answer as trying to forget the "truth". But really continuing down that spiral of thought gives no real answer. So as sad as that sounds your answer really is the end (given what we know).

slow down, I didn't make this thread because my life is getting destroyed or collapsed by this thought. Just something that hangs in the back of my mind a lot and by making this thread I tried to look for an answer that I forgot doesn't really exist.

My answer to the question of nihilism is while the universe or creation itself might not care about whatever we do and ascribe no meaning to them it does not mean that we have to ascribe no meaning to them.

By saying "all we're doing is pursuing a happiness high" is itself ascribing meaning: a human meaning, your meaning. If the universe doesn't give a shit and doesn't ascribe a meaning then the only meaning we can create is our own.

Therefore OP you should ascribe a less shitty meaning to your life and actions. It is entirely up to you what meaning you ascribe so ascribe a less shitty meaning.

Just my two cents.

We've all been there, most of humanity has and we've spent millenias trying to figure it out, but as far as I know, nobody has.

I usually get it once a year when everything culminates and reality hits me with a 2×4 to the face.
Just hopeless emptiness, I have gotten myself out of those holes till now and I am getting better at it as well. They could last 2-3 months, now they last 1-2 weeks.

You'll manage OP.

no worries. its not causing me to sink into a deep depression or anything.

Marcus Aurelius. Meditations. How many times I gotta say this anons?

What you're saying is legitimate don't listen to the retards who just want a chance to feel superior with the "teen lol XD" comments.

What might help; lose your materialism. It's a cold meaningless world view conducive to nothing but nihilism and most importantly it's wrong. Check out idealism, phenomenology, and scientific instrumentalism.

What may also be at play here is you only think these kinds of "happiness is meaningless, just chemicals, etc" thoughts when you ARENT happy. Perhaps your problem is not philosophical but rather a lack of positive experiences and meaning in your life (ie depression).

When you're genuinely happy you simply don't have these kinds of "this experience is worthless and meaningless" thoughts and feelings. (Otherwise you wouldn't be genuinely happy).

Life's strange, there's a lot of suffering in both your life and the rest of the world, the trick is to find something overreaching worth suffering for - family, interests, passions, things you enjoy. If you've got none of that then the next best thing is escapism until you find something, drugs music movies games , even work.

Good luck.

Nihilism is self-destructive. For me, the problem of nihilism is that you can't even stabilsh it as a position. Is complete emptiness and lack of any kind of motivation.

As someone said before in this thread, being truly nihilist is nearly impossible. Any motivation is per se badly founded.

But the foundation of the skepticism in which the nihilism is based also will lack on motivation. The critic needs some presumptions to be done. As Gadamer showed, there is a positive part in the negativeness inherente in critic.

But that doesn't mean that nihilism is wrong. As wrong as is nihilism is dogmatism.

Thanks anons to bring this topic without memeing.

In my opinion evolution has honed us to feel good about things to keep us doing them. Mating feels good, but so does helping others and finding understanding. First example keeps the species going, the other two keeping a community together (or at least not against itself). (Also this might glitch, such as in the case of rape.)

So, by that logic, happiness means that you're doing something right. If you seek love, you're just integrating your mind with your bodily self in a healthy manner. At least you're not indulging yourself on a drug, such as alcohol or excessive use of pornography.

Also what's the alternative? Doing something you don't enjoy doing, not because it's intuitively right or it feels good, but because it's "forming a categorical imperative" or whatever? Please, life doesn't need to be so complicated. Don't overthink things.

Have a bump, OP. I'd rather philosophical discussion (which IS part of Veeky Forums, see the sticky) than over 9000 "what if Hitler shaved his anus" threads