Who was in the wrong? The cops or the students?

national guard obviously

but the protestors didn't help either

>in the wrong

kek. i guess the students because they ended up fucking dead

they didn't shoot enough boomer hippies if you ask me

The libtards were in the wrong. Fuck em. Probably should have killed more of them.

>equating the civil rights protestors of the 60s with today's SJW crybabies
You realize the pushback that resulted from meathead retards being sent in to antagonize university protestors is what caused universities to become politically correct safe spaces, right?
All those dead kids shot by undisciplined uneducated hillbillies who hated students simply for being students morally justified every crybully excluding evil white males ever since in the eyes of most people.

Why even call the national guard to a college campus in bumfuck nowhere? They were looking for a fight.

because students at the time were generally protesting DOW chemical and stopping them from recruiting chem students, and DOW paid a lot of money and funded a lot of chem programs to get those recruitment booths.

You had a group on one side that was bad. You had a group on the other side that was also very violent. Nobody wants to say that. I’ll say it right now.

>throw beer bottles at armed National guardsman
>get shot
really atomizes your apples

Because they had been rioting downtown and had made multiple threats to businesses and specifically the ROTC building. There was legimate concern about it and the governor decided to call the national guard.

>s-see, everyone is dumb but the left!
As much as i love hippie music and aesthetics, they were the beggining of the end of the american dream.
>They undermined the country every chance they got
>Openly socialist-communist
>Undermined 'Nam support, forcing the US to pull back the troops, letting the country overrun by commies
>Civil rights movement worsened racial relationships pretty much like now
>dude weed lmao

>blaming hippies for basically everything that you don't like
Okay user

>Civil rights movement worsened racial relationships pretty much like now
>dude weed lmao
Oh you're retarded, whatever

>Dude let's just murder them in the streets then, what are laws for lmao

hippies

had the students succeeded the loss of human life would have been greater

>rioting downtown
what downtown?

>threats to businesses and specifically the ROTC building

You mean some drunk called in a threat from a payphone, and to prevent calamity to the gym closet used as the "rotc building," they killed more civilians than the boston bombers.

>talk shit get hit
Now, imagine what would happen if it these students were in the USSR they so much loved and say advocated against afghanistan. They would have been fucking decimated and their families would be constantly watched for being US sympathisers

>rioting and assaulting keeper of the peace
>advocating for the overthrow of the USA during that
it was a lawfully executed use of lethal force

>Civil rights movement worsened racial relationships pretty much like now

What the fuck do you even know about race relations to begin with?

>Civil rights movement worsened racial relationships pretty much like now
But they legitimately had less rights than whites

The cops.

Protesting is a leftist propaganda.

>keepers of the peace
You mean the brainless thugs who regularly marched on to university campuses aimlessly cracking the skulls of everyone they could get their hands on who didn't look like a redneck and tear gassing the whole campus including all the students who are just in class?

>REEEEE violent revolution now
>REEEEE why are they shooting us

>muh innocence
tell it to the judge commie, you werent there, the judges were and they found the soldiers to be lawful.

>whataboutistan
The situation could have been solved without killing anyone. those people had the same right to their opinion that you edgy-right fags have today.

>violent revolution
the absolute state of /pol/kid education
They just wanted the government to stop burning down a jungle full of chink rice farmers with napalm

They were literally rioting you chucklefuck

>so were gonna riot in our university and call for the killing of all public officials while attacking keepers of the peace
you should watch the pbs documentary

Yeah, cause commies have a habit of peacefully suppresing unrest, right? Jusb like in Novocherkassk?

Why didn't they just stop resisting?
i.4cdn.org/wsg/1506338667901.webm

>protesting is a capital crime if you're a fuggin "commbunist"

SWEET LAND O' LIBERDYYYYYYYYYY
*makes pig noises and smacks massive thighs together*

>commies
lmao come on nu-/pol/

>*makes pig noises and smacks massive thighs together*
>commie intelligence

Yeah, lets play 'i'm the original dirty dan' while ignoring the conversation, right?

you don't even know what communism is you bluepilled cuck

>if we just killed all da gooks we coulda saved em from da gommunism :DDDD

>some dumbshit you like to larp about

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looks like we missed one

Keep in mind, these were the same """"""""""brave American soldiers"""""""""" who got completely and utterly #btfo by starving rice farmers, so they had every reason to be scared shitless of some uppity hippies.

>be commie
>get shot
>blame guns
>get shot anyway

>wrong is right because others do wrong too
derp

that makes those commie larpers the most pathetic soldiers in the whole war then. right behind the loli with the fat ass

Not true
This was the national guard! Meaning the absolute cowards and failures who were either too scared or too incompetent to go fight starving gooks who live in holes and were living on a dusty handful of moldy rice every fortnight.

>shooting commies is okay
>but commies being violent is wrong wrong wrong
uhhhhh

>gommes gonna take your freedumbs, so we gonna take your freedumbs first to prevent it!

USA USA USA

>shooting commies is okay
when they commit crimes
>>but commies being violent is wrong wrong wrong
maybe if they were the good boys like the NKVD who liked killing, starving, slaving, and beating commies for papa stalin

Killing is never right, you know? You just cant go around waving your """left's moral advantage (c)"""" while people you support did the same shit and you ignore it on purpose

>the building was a good boy, it dindu nuffin

>when they commit crimes
The police aren't allowed to shoot people just for committing crimes in a developed, civilized country. They are only supposed to shoot people for protection of themselves or the public or if it is proportionate to do so when trying to apprehend a non-compliant suspect who could be a danger.

I blame agriculture. Without food surplus a lot less people would have been needlessly murdered.

people also have a right to be wrong.

Here's a question: was Jane Fonda in the wrong?

the invention of the haber-bosch process was the tipping point i think.

This guy gets it

Lol at the faggot bootlickers on here.
>National Guard dindu nuffin, we haff to take away your freedumbs because muh domino theory.

>communist calling others bootlickers

you forgot to squel like a pig in capslock, also
>my freedom to murder people and overthrow the US government

they were shot for assaulting officers and resisting arrest amoung other violent crimes. Which is acceptable throught the history of modern and postmodern society.

Students bum rushed the National Guard. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>implying I'm a communist.
Nice try retard

Whoever decided to deploy national guardsmen who were completely untrained for the situation

>they were shot for assaulting officers and resisting arrest amoung other violent crimes. Which is acceptable throught the history of modern and postmodern society.

No it isn't, not unless they were armed with potentially lethal weaponry.

Agreed, but when was the advent of modern riot control techniques. It's easy to Monday morning QB it 50 years later, but aside from the obviously bad decision of M1 rifles with bayonets, what was standard procedure at the time?

>potentially lethal weaponry.
just being an able-bodied person makes you a lethal weapon. Besdides, which should they get to cause crippling damage to guardsmen when they stomp on their heads if they didn't fight back?

that was the dumbass excuse the panicked reserve men came up with

the judge bought it, so its more of a legal defense and fact of reality

I'm sure that had nothing to do with the government's policies at the time

> Charging a line of guardsmen armed with rifles with bayonets

The students began retreating from that line for a reason. You don't try and punch a guy with a knife on the end of his gun. This was why the closest guy shot was 20 yards away.

You're the one that is squealing like a pig here. You're the biggest cuck for the American government, the Vietnam War was unwinnable by around this time and those students were protesting an unwinnable war, yeah they are at fault to a degree but that doesn't matter. They had every right to protest the war.

>hurr """""people""""" (communists) shouldn't be executed for damaging property because muh fee fees

>unwinnable Vietnam war meme
By the time of the Tet Offensive, the Viet Cong were virtually wiped out. The North Vietnamese were forced to rely on conventional attacks, and the South Vietnamese state was slowly showing signs of improvement. Purely militarily speaking, the war could have been won. The US military and nation was stabbed in the back.

rioting and attempted murder is not protesting
name them tumblrina, so far you all just start makin pignoises and talk about your sexual fantasies
its a legal fact that the judge cleared the soldiers of all wrong-doing on the grounds of keeping the peace so what you're saying is irrelevant

>a high level of discourse is expected.

>just being an able-bodied person makes you a lethal weapon. Besdides, which should they get to cause crippling damage to guardsmen when they stomp on their heads if they didn't fight back?

It has never been considered normal in developed, civilized countries to shoot unarmed people, which was the argument I was responding to. Unarmed people can easily be countered by giving them a good twatting with a baton or similar, even if they are resisting arrest and being aggressive towards officials. Stop trying to subtly move the goalposts.

>the fuck is this
>kent state
>google it
>nasty girls affixing fucking bayonets

>supports communist hippie subversives destroying property, breaking peace, beating up and threatening to kill people
>anyone who cares about law and order is obviously a fascist bootlicker Nazi pig
If the USA really wanted to beat the communists, we should have napalmed the colleges, not the slant-eyes.

The US upper command said the war was unwinnable. Westmoreland, Kissinger....they all had their private doubts about the winnaibility of the war while publicly stating otherwise

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>private doubts are the same thing as actual evidence

>It has never been considered normal in developed, civilized countries to shoot unarmed people
in self defense it is fine, which it was at KEnt State. e.g. zimmerman and trayvon martin

Students; shooting to disperse a crowd was common throughout American history up until it happened to baby boomers who I'm sure will go down as a uniquely shitty generation of people.

>I am a faggot with no argument other than they dindu nuffin

Hypocrite.

Trayvon Martin had whatshisface on the ground and was pounding his head against the floor and was reaching for his gun, not a comparison.

*tips Stahlhelm*

No..... its called due process of law. We don't just execute people on the spot for crimes or for damaging property. Even if they were guilty of sedition, we rarely historically in the United States just mass execute enemies of the state. That's not part of U.S. history. Traitors have been executed but they had their constitutional rights still. Why do you niggers hate the Constitution so much?
>Muh stabbed in the back myth
>Muh commies
It didn't matter if the Viet Cong got wiped out, the South Vietnamese government was corrupt, inefficient and they were very unstable, they multiple coups in their country, the government was very corrupt, it was shit show. The commies killed more in North Vietnam because that's the reality of a communist dictatorship but the Republic of Vietnam was not South Korea, they did not have the stability like the ROK had in Seoul which while an authoritarian regime, Seoul was stable, they didn't the same amount of problems like Saigon had.

You are just engaging in logical fallacies for the purpose of ruining the board

and the protestors were found guilty of the same crime post-mortem. its the same

The North Vietnamese had doubts that the war was winnable if the Americans just stuck around to blow them away every time they tried going on the offensive. They essentially learned from American media that the Americans were losing support at home and probably had to leave soon, meaning they knew they just had to hang on.