Is communnism future?

Is communnism future?

Yes once we hit the singularity we will have abundant resources

> ifunny.co

Why would anyone be a Janitor or a garbage man without economic incentive?

>Is communnism future?

Only if we invent Star Trek replicators.

Economic scarcity will never be overcome. Therefore communism will never be a viable economic system.

Tell me once we have Star Trek technology and alien contact that unites the planet against a common outside force.

Make the job respected and worth doing.

Wait, what even is your argument?

That's what robots are for.

Probably not for a while if at all, it's more likely that more elements of socialism will be incorporated into capitalist nations if Automatization dramatically affects jobs.

I'm seriously asking. Why would anyone clean shit off the floor? What incentive is there? Respect? What social currency does that bring and wouldn't people who don't do those jobs that covet that respect? There has to be value in that and that would be a probably for egalitarian sentiment.

Thats more like it.

They do it for free!

*gold presses your latinum*

This.

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No

Singularity is meme and there is no reason to believe it will ever happen

Yes.

If I earned millions of dollars for a shitty film like him, if life was that easy for me, I would say exactly the same thing

I don't get why you would associate that quote with communism. If the acquisition of wealth was not important to you why would you follow an ideology built entirely around forcefully taking wealth from others? An ideology that believes some people having less wealth is so terrible it's worth hurting and killing other people or overthrowing all of our social institutions just so you don't have to deal with some people having more wealth then you and so that you can acquire enough wealth to be equal to others as if communists start from the assumption that a persons entire worth is their wealth and that the "system" forces them to be worth less then someone else by purely material possessions rather then their own dignity, morals, or spirituality.

Wouldn't a government/society that cared the least about wealth be one that provided a bare minimum safety net so people would not die from starvation/exposure and an enforced free market for people to pursue whatever they believed would better themselves and others?

>Is communnism future?

No, worker owned cooperative are.

>3441329

Star Trek still had a hierarchy.
Also earth is so peaceful becuase starfleet secretly killed all the goodfornothings or shipped them to off world conneys

Whaaat I didn't knew about that. Any more info? Or you are talking about eugenics war?

Your "free market" system is based on accumulation of wealth/capital because every company cares about making profit as a goal in itself.
In such a system, every job you have is there because it generates wealth for some company, every item of food or clothing you have was made so someone could profit from it.
The very choices you have in this system are determined by what is profitable.

>ifunny.co
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>"communnism"
The absolute fucking STATE of modern communism.

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Suck it up loser

Well, it would be the preferable future.

Never heard of those books, any good?

>the acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives
How the fuck do they afford their spaceships then? Space-faring metal behemoths ain't cheap

Top one is more appealing than bottom one and I'm not a libertarian.

I hope you realize the only possibly interpretation is that you're homosexual.

>appealing
You gay bro.

Yes, but only if we make revolution.
We have to overthrow the current system, otherwise automatization will concentrate wealth in the hands of a few and fuck the planet forever.
Communism isn't the same thing as collectivism.
That's socialism/syndicalism.
Their goals are "to better [them]selves and the rest of humanity". This entails exploring space, which entails spaceships. People come together and work to create the metal behemoths that are necessary for progress.

3d printers
But communism is a higher stage of socialism

There is plenty of reason. AI will allow for a completely automated workforce.

>Wow, so in a future where the technology to make literally anything in existence via matter replicators makes money Obselete and communism reality. Such a feasible system under such realitic conditions

The single biggest technology is the matter-energy converter, aka the replicator. If our manufacturing capability reaches that stage, we might as well go for full communism as the only limit to our freedom would be our own aging body that could be cured if we focus many of the top scientists on medical/nanotechnology work.

Even without the replicator in our work, AI (even rudimentary) + atomic manufacturing (will be coming in the next decade or so) will be capable of making efficient goods and supplying the world with endless amount of material goods.

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why would anyone clean up shit in a capitalist country? to earn money so you can take care of yourself.
why would anybody do it in a comnunist country (a good one at least)? to work together to create a nice ole country that will care for everyone.
the bad thing is that if theres too many talented people and they cant give them all jobs according to their skill. but i dont think it would be a very big problem when you see how many retards there are that cant do anything else but mop shit
dont get me wrong, im not a commie
I don't think we can make it work better than capitalism any time soon.

>why would anybody do it in a comnunist country (a good one at least)?

yes

yes

saying singularity is a meme is a meme

hey buddy, aren't you overdue for your chemotherapy session?

>Capitalism is essentially wasteful
>Commodities are created because they are to be sold not needed

Never have I read something so stupid in my life.

This quote isn't communist it's just about post-scarcity world. Is that so difficult to understand? The characters clearly own personal property and have their own goals.

Communism? No. These are stupid labels. I doubt the economic system 50 years from now will resemble any modern system, or even any system we currently imagine. Could you try to go to ancient Greece then try to explain the difference between Keynes and Hayek?

I do, however, believe we will lose the competitive thing we call capitalism. Right now we have the resources to house, clothe, and feed the planet. We just chose not too. The US alone simply throws away half the food it makes, and intentionally designs consumer products to fail after so many years.

The main problem is that we think some people deserve more resources than others. Eventually we will have to change that paradigm.

Yeah okay but I want all the virgins.

Then go back to /pol/

This won't be an issue once we manufacture robots to do this. People can be paid livelyhood income and be funded by government to go to school for real careers that better humanity as a whole.

Capitalism with a benevolent dictator (preferably an AI or human/AI hybrid) deciding how taxes are spent.

That's the future.

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>Robots will do all the work for us!

But who gets to decide who gets what robots and how many? Even if the singularity happens there is still a finite amount of land. How will we decide who gets to live in the highly sought after downtown urban center, and who gets forced to live out in the boring countryside? What happens when the person in charge of the robot snowplows doesn't plow my street because he doesn't like me?

Mass automation/robotization creates just as many questions as it solves.

This. Every time you make one type of resources so abundant that is becomes valueless it gets replaced by another scarce resource. Not to mention there will always be resources like diamonds that have no practical value but tons of sentimental value.

>Make the job respected

No matter how much communist brainwashing you do you will never convince people that cleaning up shit is "respectable".