What the fuck was his problem?

What the fuck was his problem?

Plebs had too much power and Gaius Marius kept fucking with him

Yeah if that was all, but even after Marius was dead he just went full "there's a point where this has to stop and we have clearly passed it, but let's keep going and see what happens"

The equestrians were fucking with him too.

Sulla wanted to cut the bourgeois class down to size and get rid of the new route to political power through destabilization.

Please, he did it because he had to find a way to pay al lthose soldiers since Rome cut off funding to them.

>Wants to cut the bourgeois class down to size
>Eliminates the Plebian Tribune
>Introduces reforms specifically designed to solidify the power of the aristocracy.

It's both of the above, his purges obviously had practical purpose of enriching him and his followers but his constitutional reforms were clearly geared towards trying to move center of power back to the senate and neutering the assemblies, tribunes of plebs, equestrians, and other rabble rousing faggots like Marius who wanted to piss all over the mos maiorum

The equestrians and patricians were in different classes.

The Consul who lived.... come to die...

he didn't have a nose

Is it fair to call him the grave-digger of the Republic?

What now motherfucker.

Of course he wanted to do that because those groups were the last chance of reform for the horrificly corrupt republican government and senators ever since the time of the Gracchi brothers have done everything to stop it.

Eh, Sulla was just a manifestation of the trend of rogue armies, which you could argue started at the end of the 2nd punic war with Scipio mustering his own forces (before being permitted by the senate).
Really, once people like the Gracchi started to exploit the tribune of the plebs position, even if what they wanted was fundamentally good, it gnawed away at the structure of the republic until you get fuckers like Sulla or Caesar calling themselves dictators, setting up proscription lists, etc. Sulla is more like a symptom than a disease, to make my point more clear.

republic was going to fail, if you think about it, the fall of the republic saved rome

Nah, because it was already a foot in the grave at that point.

No-body nose

THEY STOLE HIS COMMAND AGAINST MITHRIDATES. he dindu nuffin.

GET AWAY FROM THAT POPULARIS

I'M CUTTING IT DOWN

It's because he wanted Cato's sweet underage boipucci, but Cato didn't give in because muh republic

>What the fuck was his problem?
Post stroke Marius was literally insane and the senate was utterly worthless.
Solution? Kill the madman, reboot the republic.

His nose tip looks like a cock

He was mad because he didn't have a nose.

Well he had quite the long list of his problems. He systematically worked to get them checked off his list.

Dunno, it had been going strong for many centuries until Gaius Marius decided to destabilize the status quo by messing with the army structure. If anything it was Marius.
Emperorship is what really killed it after that, the empire became too bloated for such a central authority, it was bound to fail. Even after a supremely brilliant emperor like Aurelius it only took one clown to fuck it up.

when will the US go through this stage in its history? the suspense is killing me

Marius's reforms were also a predictable consequence of the Senate allowing the enclosure of land that lead to a concentration of land ownership, stripping a huge amount of people of the right to serve in the military.

Everybody always acts like Marius was some kind of dumbass making changes for no reason. The rule was that you had to be a land-owner to serve in the Legions. The idea was that you would fight harder if you had some stake in the outcome. When Rome was mostly a collection of small-time farmers who worked the land, this made sense. But as the upper-class came to dominate land-ownership, the number of Roman citizens who could fulfill the land requirement was getting smaller each year. One possible solution to this problem was to simply split up the massive estates of the rich and divide them amongst the less wealthy citizens. This is exactly what the Gracchi brothers tried to do, but they were thwarted because the wealthy landowners chimped out and had them both assassinated. This put an end to any talk of land redistribution, at least until Caesar came along. Anyway, Marius understood the problem, but he also knew that it was almost impossible to have any sort of land redistribution without being killed, so he opted to eliminate the land requirement entirely, meaning that any citizen could now fight in the legions, regardless of whether he owned land or not.

>The idea was that you would fight harder if you had some stake in the outcome. When Rome was mostly a collection of small-time farmers who worked the land, this made sense.
>But as the upper-class came to dominate land-ownership, the number of Roman citizens who could fulfill the land requirement was getting smaller each year.

Yeah and small-time landowners dwindling was directly tied to expanding empire and longer campaigns which brought them economic ruin. Marius' reforms were pretty straightforward consequence of Rome expanding out of Italy.

Sulla did nothing wrong. Rome has always been at its best when the greatest achievers of their time were able to use the resources of the entire empire for their exploits. He did the same thing Scipio did just without wasting time cajoling windbags out of touch with those they represented.

Do not confuse equestrian/senatorial classes with plebeians/patricians. The first were economically defined, the second were determined by ancestry.

>calling themselves dictators

Dictator was literally an office under the Republic. They didn't "call themselves" that, they were appointed to that office by the Senate.

Then how did he smell?

>directly tied

That was certainly one of the reasons. There were others, such as latifundia being farmed by save-gangs.

Wait, was nose-circumcision just a thing Romans did?

Noses breaking off of busts is rather common.