What are some good, non-racist books that deal with the Asian American experience? I've been told Tao Lin is quite worthwhile.
Since Asian Americans are now rising in prominence against decades of media propaganda, it seems worth having a general thread about their impact on the arts.
Also Asian American men are very popular with women, from what I have been told.
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>Also Asian American men are very popular with women, from what I have been told.
You were told wrong.
Does burgers cause cuckism?
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Are you the hapa spammer on /int/? Can't you just stop being an insecure fucktard already?
>ho chi ming.jpg
Why is really basic humor about Asians always so funny? e.g. Eating fried race, all looking the same, some arrogant guy with a goatee reeling off one platitude after another, really bombastic sounding names like "celestial wisdom heavenly palace" etc?
Because they're more sensitive to ethnic banter than other races. Plus their hostility towards even slight irreverence and obsession with hollow rites/servility to rank makes lampooning such a culture a lot easier.
Remember when Veeky Forums was plagued with threads about this son of a bitch
Asians are the highest-earning and most successful race in America. There is no discrimination against them. I'm sorry you can't get laid, but that's not because of media bias, it's because you're an unattractive individual.
>about this son of a bitch
What did he do to you? Why are you so rude?
Read David Henry Hwang. And Chow Pan Toon.
Also, Chang Ting Pong
You must be easily amused. The humor about them are completely dull and uninspired.
Fresh Off The Boat is a great book if you want to know what its like growing up asian in america
Is that a real name?
Westernised Asians, including Asian Americans are cancer
>fat
>tan
>tattoos
>piercing
>no manners
>dress like shit
>loud and annoying
>insecure
>inferiority complex
>mentally damaged
>mostly left leaning
>white or black wannabe
>hate his own culture of being shallow about it
>""asian solidarity"" like there's such thing in Asia lmao
As an international student from Asia studying in Cali, nothing irks me more, they're repulsive
Lmao fuck Eddie Huang. He's a fakeass nigga. Nigga didn't grow up poor then pretending he fucking hood or some shit fuck outta here frontin ass chink.
America makes niggers of us all
>son of first generation immigrants
>not poor
Nigga you stupid as hell.
Fuck off you dumb faggot. Just because you're first generation Asian American doesn't mean you grew up poor. Virtually every Asian I know is a Gen 1 or parachute kid and by no means are all of them poor. Huang just milks the immigrant story for all its worth because it sells his fucking books.
>There is no discrimination against them.
Are you retarded? Asians were banned from the US until 1940s and lot of Asians lived in communes in the States. Hell you ate fucking shit being Asian in the south.
Go to bed, tao
Is having strict immigration controls really the same thing as being discriminated against in a country while resident?
I mean every east asian country more or less excludes foreigners from the body politic but they don't get shit about it.
They were excluded and discriminated against heavily, which just doesn't jive with American ideals of equality and justice.
No idea, but it would surely include things like Chinese Exclusion Act, Asian Exclusion Act, Yellowface, Model Minority role, etc
I don't know much about Asian Americans tbqh.
Have you actually read his book or are you bashing him because you dislike him? Either way you're a stupid motherfucker because he did grow up poor and his family didn't make it until he was 14 when his dad became a successful restaurateur.
>American ideals of equality and justice
When have these ever been American ideals?
Kill yourself, Tang.
American was basically a country founded for white people until 1965 immigration law. You can't use that argument. It was never intended prior to that point to be a race blind society or country.
Don't Asian American men generally get mad about their women marrying non Asians anyway?
>I mean every east asian country more or less excludes foreigners from the body politic but they don't get shit about it.
Two reasons: Asian countries don't give two shit about diversity and inclusion, and secondly foreigners don't care to actually integrate into those societies.
The US Constitution
> and secondly foreigners don't care to actually integrate into those societies.
Some actually do. Dashan for example has lived in the PRC for decades, is a well known tv personality and speaks perfect mandarin as well as dialects. He still only has a yearly visa.
Why attempt to integrate to societies where naturalisation is hard to impossible?
>secondly foreigners don't care to actually integrate into those societies.
Beyond superficial level stuff like accents and language and self identification when it costs them nothing, neither do non whites in western societies.
Oh they talk of these things. But how many Chinese Americans would pick up a gun and fire at PLA soldiers in a war?
>foreigners don't care to actually integrate into those societies.
There are a hell of a lot of white people in China that would love to become Chinese.
The west coast has quite a bit of relation with Asian Americans. Good chunk of railroad is built by Asian americans and they drove good chunk of early economy. It was in the late 19th century when heavy immigration restrictions were placed. As well as Asians not being allowed to marry white women, excluded from many public spaces, lynched, excluded from jobs, etc. The argument from violence doesn't work as they weren't the violent kind either. So it was mainly baseless prejudice at play.
>Don't Asian American men generally get mad about their women marrying non Asians anyway?
That's a pretty strong generalization. Politically most of Asian Americans fall fairly under liberal/moderate category, so if the politics is concern, they wouldn't care too much about race mixing.
>Asian countries don't give two shit about diversity and inclusion
The PRC is officially 5 Races, 1 Nation. This is owing to the fact that China was an Empire, as opposed to the monoracial thing the Koreans and Japs have going on.
Its more like they already have a bunch of minority's to mind about as opposed to worrying about others.
>America is for whites
>imports niggers by the millions
>racemix with Injuns
>import thousands of Chinese and Japanese laborers in the late 19th and early 20th century
>let in millions of nigger terroni from Italy
>let in millions of Slavs and kikes
>America was always for whites!!
recently read this, pretty good book
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Asia for Asians
Africa for Africans
Europe for Europeans
America and Australia for everyone
> Politically most of Asian Americans fall fairly under liberal/moderate category, so if the politics is concern, they wouldn't care too much about race mixing
The Americanized ones, second generation onwards. The reason being is that like every immigrant group, the first generation is bought by the Democrats through generous welfare policies. That's why despite being very conservative they tend to vote Democrat, and their kids being raised in the same household and growing up hearing the same pitch vote that way also.
He's the exception not the rule. In other countries like Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, etc. where naturalization is easier for foreigners even then there's little attempt. Shit there are immigrant enclaves all over SE Asia where westerners who have been living in the region for decades don't speak a lick of the local dialect.
No there aren't. Most, a good 90%, the foreigners who arrive at the Sinosphere have nothing but contempt and disdain for the people and culture. Horribly ironic considering that they're all migrant workers who have failed at home and are forced to go abroad for economic opportunities.
I find it the opposite. First generations are usually leaving socialist countries and are looking to become business owners because of the lack of socioeconomic mobility in their home countries. They tend to not take gibs, rely on their communities and networks to deal with their internal social issues, and vote heavily Republican to maximize opportunity and decrease taxes. They are also incredibly socially conservative.
Its the second generation (i.e. kids born in America or came at a young age) who tend to vote left wing and clash with the older generation about issues such as LGBT rights, feminism, and forms of welfare. The only thing they are really united on is immigration issues.
You ignored my point. You said it was antithetical to American values but America was a state for Europeans prior to 65. Almost exclusively.
>As well as Asians not being allowed to marry white women,
And white men weren't allowed to marry Asian women either. Leading actors weren't even allowed to kiss Anna May Wong. There is nothing unusual about anti miscegenation laws. The Tang dynasty also had such laws. But whites were fair enough to apply them to men and women. Unlike Chinese who applied such laws only to Chinese women.
>The only thing they are really united on is immigration issues.
Yep. And even there, all Asian Americans are left-wing in regards to the US, and right-wing in regards to their homelands.
Look at how many Indian-Americans support Modi.
>Most, a good 90%, the foreigners who arrive at the Sinosphere have nothing but contempt and disdain for the people and culture.
That usually comes after a few years, and honestly I find it's more common among upper middle class professionals in HK and Singapore than it is among the ESL types on the mainland.
It's understandable they'd have contempt. Consider how in HK you're basically milked dry as a foreigner, more or less will always pay 20% extra (or thereabouts) for rent for example, and endure other indignities that Asian Americans would never stand for back in your own country, because they're protected by the law in the US in a way expats aren't in the Sinosphere.
Like, if you seriously believe we're privileged over there, try bringing a civil claim against a Chinese in a Chinese court in Sing, HK, PRC or even Taiwan. You'll lose every single time, no matter how strong your case.
>He's the exception not the rule.
Of course he is. The PRC literally makes naturalization impossible. Why would anyone want to attempt to ingratiate themselves with people who so obviously don't want them and hold such contempt for them?
There's nothing to dissipate your desire to learn Chinese quite like spending time in China, take it from a HSK4 pass user.
>Vietnam
What? No it isn't.
>Japan
Naturalization is still significantly more difficult here than it is in most western countries. In spite of that, yes, it's easier than in the PRC and there are a far higher proportional number of foreigners who are involved in some intimate way with Japanese society.
>imports niggers by the millions
Chattel slavery is not wanting people to become a part of your society.
>racemix with Injuns
The descendants of whom are de facto white.
>import thousands of Chinese and Japanese laborers in the late 19th and early 20th century
Temporary laborers, yes. The Gulf does the same with races they consider undesirable for construction projects. Nobody demands they naturalize them all and consider them equals.
>let in millions of nigger terroni from Italy
>let in millions of Slavs and kikes
Right, America always prioritized European immigration until 1965. That was my point, not whether or not you conisdered the mezzogiorno "white" or not.
Even after the immigration act was repealed, Asians couldn't have property in the US until the 1960s. see:
>The PRC is officially 5 Races, 1 Nation.
At the time of the pronouncement Sun Yat Sen made, Han were 98% of the population of the Qing Dynasty, and the remaining 2% were mostly people like Zhuang and Hui, who are to Han what Brits and French are to Germans.
Nevermind that Sun Yat Sen kept the company of Han Nationalists who wanted to physically exterminate every minority group from "Chinese" soil. It's easy to be feign magnaninimity when all you're doing is saying you'll give some basic rights to 2% of the population who are mostly very similar to you anyway.
>as opposed to the monoracial thing the Koreans and Japs have going on.
If America was 90% Anglo-American and the remaining 10% were German/Italian/French/Slavic, would it also be super diverse?
The anti-miscegenation laws were a misnomer, the main reason for her not being allowed to kiss was due to disgust of non-whites showing any positive human emotions. The whites not being able to kiss the asian women wasn't because the white man was being oppressed by the asians in America.
Also the Tang dynasty? Comon now.
>Asians couldn't have property in the US until the 1960s.
You realize the same restrictions on both freehold property and bank loans apply to foreigners all over East Asia right, even ones with PR in more comparatively permissive nations like Japan. Try getting a loan from a Japanese bank even if your credit rating in the US is spotless and your collateral secure.
If these are such egregious abuses of "human rights", why are Asian Americans so comfortable with the present political paradigm in East Asia vis a vis foreigners?
>the main reason for her not being allowed to kiss was due to disgust of non-whites showing any positive human emotions.
No. The main reason was that it broke the anti-miscegenation laws of the time, and the reason the laws were set up in the first place is to protect white populations and minimize racial conflict. This is unlike the example of anti-miscegenation laws in Imperial China which only applied to Chinese women wrt non-Chinese/"dark skinned" men (particularly in Guangdong). If whites had the same attitude most Chinese did, and indeed still do (men mixing = ok, our women mixing = not ok) they would have set up similarly blatantly hypocritical laws, but they didn't, they set up laws that penalized both white men and white women.
Shit, Lafcadio Hearn of all people was convicted of this very offense, so it wasn't like it wasn't equally applied.
>Also the Tang dynasty? Comon now.
My point is that anti-miscegenation laws and policies are nothing new, the pretense that what America did was somehow uniquely morally evil through lie-by-omission rhetoric is a crock of bullshit, you slippery oriental.
Because they live here and are pretty much culturally American you dumbass. That's like someone asking a white person about Irish politics when all they know is Sinn Fein and muh IRA.
I was going to make a response to your response, but: summed it up.
These were ASIAN-AMERICANS being discriminated against in AMERICA
>Because they live here and are pretty much culturally American you dumbass.
lol, now comes the about-face.
Even though everything they do with regards to the arts involves their "Asian-ness" and sense of grievance towards whites in some capacity, even though they have literally hundreds of professional, activist, political and pressure group associations set up for the purposes of associating themselves with other peoples from their ancestral homeland, even though they're by far the most likely group to spy for their ancestral country (even moreso than Jews, believe it or not) and consequently weaken the state they supposedly "pretty much culturally" belong to in the process... When it's convenient for them to not be Asian, they suddenly do away with the hyphenated qualifier and voila, they're just generic "Americans" again.
A rhetorical sleight-of-hand, nothing more.
>It's understandable they'd have contempt. Consider how in HK you're basically milked dry as a foreigner, more or less will always pay 20% extra (or thereabouts) for rent for example, and endure other indignities that Asian Americans would never stand for back in your own country, because they're protected by the law in the US in a way expats aren't in the Sinosphere.
Not talking about HK I'm talking about the Sinosphere in general. You see this contemptuous attitude in Singapore, Taiwan, and the Mainland.
>Like, if you seriously believe we're privileged over there, try bringing a civil claim against a Chinese in a Chinese court in Sing, HK, PRC or even Taiwan. You'll lose every single time, no matter how strong your case.
Different courts have different biases, it's simply the nature of law when interpreted and executed by humans. American courts for example are classist and heavily biased towards people high in the socioeconomic ladder.
Not him, his jpg being constantly posted.
>These were ASIAN-AMERICANS being discriminated against in AMERICA
How many of these Asian "Americans" do you suppose would pick up a rifle, point in the direction of PLA soldiers who look just like them and fire?
Because I think even 20% is pushing it.
Loyalty is zero-sum when it comes to nations, because nations, believe it or not, compete in ways that fundamentally ARE zero-sum (resources, land, influence, control etc).
>You see this contemptuous attitude in Singapore, Taiwan, and the Mainland.
Why are you talking about "people who cant make it back home" when talking about Singapore? White expats in Singapore are overwhelmingly upper middle class professionals.
As for the contemptuous attitude, what are you referring to specifically, give examples. The distaste for the food? That's a given. People prefer their own food, including Chinese.
>Different courts have different biases, it's simply the nature of law when interpreted and executed by humans.
It's amazing the chicanery you'll employ to avoid simply having to admit the fact that, by your own standards, East Asian states are institutionally racist and xenophobic on a level orders of magnitude beyond that of the United States.
The bias here is an explicit racial one towards Chinese regardless of the strength of the claim being brought. Show me a similar bias in US courts against Asian Americans.
Comparison to a dynasty that was 1000 years in the past is setting yourself quite low in standards.
Its not a lie-by-omission, its omission-through-irrelevancy.
Also what happens in Imperial China doesn't excuse what happens in US. Imperialism is by function is rule by force. Where as a democracy is a rule by the people. So you have three order of magnitude of irrelevancy. One different governance style. Two it was from different empire. Three, it was from a different time.
Tbh in a modern war you wouldn't see shit. There would probably be 1% chance of you ever coming face to face with an enemy soldier in combat. The rate would be pretty high just because of that. It's just that immigrant parents don't want their kids to join the military and die in the desert, that would destroy their only reason for moving to America in the first place - a good environment for their kids to grow up in and get high paying jobs.
>As for the contemptuous attitude, what are you referring to specifically, give examples.
Nigga.... you can tell he's Chinese/Asian because he sees anything as a slight against his group and a loss of face. Only Asians see the world in terms as neurotic as these. This inability to accept even the slightest ounce of irreverence or criticism, and the whinyness that results is distinctively Asian.
Pic related. This is what Asians actually believe.
Chinese Americans weren't allowed to own property until the 1960's tbf
>Dashan
You can become a Chinese citizen by marrying one and passing the language and citizenship test.
>Comparison to a dynasty that was 1000 years in the past is setting yourself quite low in standards.
It was one example, most people in contemporary American and Western society genuinely believe that the anti-miscegenation laws in the US were without historical parallel. You can use any example you want here, present-day Gulf state laws against non-Arabs, even non-Arab Muslims, marrying Arab women without consent of the ruler for example, or closer to the West, the Arabs intermarrying with Persian women upon their invasion and settlement of the Iranian plateau but refusal to allow Iranians to do the same.
The point is this is a pretty common sentiment and legal framework people have adopted, and there's no reason to view the US's adoption as particularly morally evil.
>One different governance style.
When the US was formed and for most of its early history it was an aristocratic republic in the vein of Venice or early Rome, not a "democracy".
Nice evasion.
Yep. Chinese men are hypocrites. Anyone who has spent time in the Far East knows this, and quickly loses any sympathy for the fact their women drop them for foreigners with such eagerness.
Trust me, Chinese and Koreans are hated by expats because they're hateable on a fundamental, animal level. They're even more alien to white people than Muslims or even Indians are. They're just about the most alien people on earth from our perspective.
See:
That's not true. Marrying a Chinese citizen gives you an L visa. Chinese citizenship law is purposefully vague so that it can be managed by bureaucratic whim.
Post great Asian-American philosophers.
What's alien about them? Genuinely curious.
>temporary
Wrong. The railroads took decades to build. They were given citizenship after passing the language tests.
East Asians have about 5 IQ points more than whites on average, and significantly less testosterone.
This has led to very pronounced differences in behaviour and the course of history. Whites even today are more credulous than East Asians, to the extent that they have replaced their God(s) with abstract ideals that they believe in.
East Asians, while historically fairly superstitious themselves have upon accepting an atheistic worldview have taken the reality of life in a meaningless, uncaring, pointless universe to its logical conclusion, explaining both their extreme cynicism, competing past the point of diminishing marginal returns and their materialism. If there are no consequences to "immoral" behavior beyond sanctions from the community (if found out), why not defraud your way to money and power? Why not cheat on your wife with hookers? Why not illegally dump trash all over the street? Why feel anything after running over a 3 year old girl?
Ironically enough, the rather childish (from an Asiatic point of view) Western guilt complex about doing evil has done a great deal to make our societies more pleasant and to an extent, more powerful. Westerners are actually more likely to feel genuinely "bad" about doing things, even if no second (or third, depending on the deed) party sees them do it. In the old days, this was attributed to God, today it's just a basically superstitious hangover.
>Point in the direction of PLA soldiers.
Are you implying all Asians are Chinese? Bunch of Filipinos (Who were Americans at the time of 1940s) fought against the IJA. There was a bunch of them fightng PLA soldiers in Korea and fighting NVA soldiers during 'Nam. There was even asian soldiers during the fucking Civil War.
Pic Related died in Vietnam and earned the Medal of Honor.
I see where you're coming from. I agree to an extent. Your argument is from the basis of presentism. However I disagree with few factors.
First the sense of morality. Arabs current have shitty women's rights, non-whites rights, non-Arabs rights record. In comparison, the west has a pretty good standard for racial policy. Yet we can still make distinction between what is good and what is not. We can continue this trend even to the days of racial segregation. Where the proponents of racial equality (a minority) clashed with the majority of racists of the time. Its not like the framework of equality a totally modern concept. The fucking japs proposed a framework of equality in the League of Nations and we threw it out because of white feelings.
The "Han" itself is an ethnocultural clusterfuck of groups who just identify with the "Mainstream" Chinese culture. And they know it.
>Muh Sun Yat-sen
Zhonghua Minzu is currently the same rhetoric PRC China runs on.
>en.wikipedia.org
>"Since the late 1980s, the most fundamental change of the People's Republic of China's nationalities and minorities policies is the renaming from "the Chinese People" (Chinese: 中国人民 or Zhongguo renmin) to "the Chinese Ethnicities" (Zhonghua minzu),[4] signalling a shift from the communist statehood with people of various nationalities to a multi ethnic statehood based on a single nationality.[4]"
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You are wrong.
Over 500 people naturalized in 2015. Considering that Japan didn't even allow naturalization until 1998, I'd say the far poorer and more overpopulated China is about on track.
Dashan could easily get citizenship. But still no marriage to a Chinese national.
Lmao so having ethnic affiliations are unAmerican now? Someone better tell the Irish, Italian, and German Americans that membership of the Hibernian Order and the GA Bund is highly suspect now. Someone also better tell the Jews having dual citizenship with Israel is unAmerican as well.
People tend to associate themselves with people they have a common background. Look at your friend group and see how many of them are your ethnicity.
Interesting.
I was going to posit the differences between our various ethical systems.
Asians believe in face, which is basically just a manifestation of your material wealth to others, whereas Europeans believe in dignity, which is (theroetically at least), supposed to transcend all of that.
Similarly Asians and Europeans have very different ideas about what constitutes "arrogance". To Asians a foreigner being as ostentatious with his wealth as a native-born Asian is intolerable, the foreigner has no (formal) standing or rank within Asian society, so his posturing is tallied up as arrogance.
But if a party-member or other significant ingroup figure within the society postures in a similar way, it isn't viewed as arrogance really, just someone of a high-rank behaving in a way appropriate to his station.
I remember reading some metric that measured people's perceived distance from power, and Chinese scored top. They really do worship power in a way that is hard for Westerners to understand.
Hey pajeet here. Indians are classified as asian in the US census but they seem to be divorced from the asian american experience.
>Why are you talking about "people who cant make it back home" when talking about Singapore? White expats in Singapore are overwhelmingly upper middle class professionals.
Doesn't remove the fact that they're migrant workers who have left the comforts of the West to go to a foreign land because their careers have stalled or there are no opportunities at home.
>As for the contemptuous attitude, what are you referring to specifically, give examples.
Are you seriously going to bury your head in the sand and play dumb?
>East Asian states are institutionally racist and xenophobic on a level orders of magnitude beyond that of the United States.
As someone who's lived in several asian countries and currently reside in the US, this is a dubious claim. Racist? They can be in an ignorant non-malevolent way. Xenophobic? Yes they're definitely suspicious of foreigners and for good reasons. But is the racism worst than the US? As someone who's lived all over the states I can tell you right now you are dead wrong.
>Show me a similar bias in US courts against Asian Americans.
They entire 19th century and 20th century Asian American History comes to mind.
Foreigners can and have bought Chinese property. You meant a residence, which is not the same thing.
>/pol/fags attempt to analyze society
Lmao this is hilarious to read.
>Whites
>calling anyone whiny and neurotic
>mfw
That's like someone from the Congo calling Honduras a shit hole.
>Also Asian American men are very popular with women
user I-....
Flips are significantly admixed with Spanish and even today are the most receptive people in East Asia to Westerners. I mean they genuinely love White people, I don't say that with any arrogant intent, it's just a fact. They're just.... different to Northeast Asians in a way that's hard to explain.
Too bad about Chinese gangsters fucking their society with shabu and other drugs, backed by the PRC of course.
It doesn't matter what a good person you think you are, if your enemies outnumber you in your own homeland and successfully blacken your image to the point they make you out to be these cartoonish villains without historical precedent, which they're presently in the process of doing, how can you respond to that? You can't. You'll just lose in the long run unless you respond in some tribal manner of your own.
>The "Han" itself is an ethnocultural clusterfuck of groups who just identify with the "Mainstream" Chinese culture. And they know it.
They all identify as part of the same racial group and their YDNA is basically from the same source. Chinese settled in places like Guangdong by ethnically cleansing the Yue peoples and taking their women.
It's why their present-day cuckery by whites is a kind of thousand-year karmic justice.
>You are wrong.
Read the Nationality Law you linked, clueless user. It stipulates three vague, amorphous conditions by which you can become a Chinese citizen.
>Someone better tell the Irish, Italian, and German Americans that membership of the Hibernian Order and the GA Bund is highly suspect now.
How many of those people are as tightly bound as Han Chinese are? How many were arrested under the 1996 Espionage Act, or on any Espionage charges for spying for their ancestral homeland in the past 20 years? Can you name even one?
> good, non-racist
Contradictory. if by that you mean anti-racist.
>Read the Nationality Law you linked, clueless user. It stipulates three vague, amorphous conditions by which you can become a Chinese citizen.
Not what you originally claimed you fucking /pol/nigger.
This post unironically made me think
>Trust me, Chinese and Koreans are hated by expats because they're hateable on a fundamental, animal level. They're even more alien to white people than Muslims or even Indians are. They're just about the most alien people on earth from our perspective.
Or maybe it's because foreigners cause most of the crime in Korea and China and thus are treated differently, shit in Korea about 80% of crimes are caused by Western expats. Being white in Asia is the equivalent of being a nigger and if it looks like a nigger then it must act like a nigger.
>Tribalism is a conceptual framework
It can be removed, re-written, by-passed, strengthened, etc. Its malleable enough on its own right even in pre-modern times.
It serves more to divide the culture/country than strengthen it, especially in a multi-cultural country(Russians are exploiting this).
Asian American history can be symmed up by
>Japanese internment camps
>we wyz Jackie Chan
>Eliott Rodgers
>/r/AsianMasculinity
>Backed by PRC.
The reason why Chinese gangsters operate in SEA is because the drug war in PRC is downright unrelenting. They're pretty much driven to produce/sell in Southeast Asian countries with weakass governments prone to corruption.
If there's anyone who's bankrolled in Flipdom, its Dutertcuck himself. That guy has been unabashedly pro-China since day 1. But it's not China's fault if Flipshits can't police themselves.
Get your /pol/ shit out of here
East Asians actually have higher testosterone that Whites, but your average dumbass doesn't realize that there are different types of testosterone. The type of test that caucasoids have lead to balding and heart failure.
>Doesn't remove the fact that they're migrant workers who have left the comforts of the West to go to a foreign land because their careers have stalled or there are no opportunities at home.
>no opportunities
It's more like expat salaries and low tax rates are an excellent opportunity to build up capital that you can't really find in the west, regardless of ability (unless you already have capital, in which case, good for you for being one of the 0.1%).
>Are you seriously going to bury your head in the sand and play dumb?
I'm asking for specific examples, /r/asianmasculinity.
>Racist? They can be in an ignorant non-malevolent way.
Yes, I'm sure the Africans whose dormitories were torched in 87 because a few dozen of them were fucking Chinese girls were targeted by "non-malevolent" racism. I'm sure the Chinese girl stabbed to death alongside her white husband in Sanlitun by a Chinese nutjob egged on by CCP agitprop, or the American stabbed near the Drum Tower a few years before that were also facing "non-malevolent" racism. Or, you know, that time a roving gang of Chinese and Chinese-"Americans" in Beijing went around on motorbikes beating the shit out of interracial couples with baseball bats (until they fucked with some Russians and got their shit kicked in) were also "non-malevolent".
Don't lie about Asian passivity, or present it in a way that tries to show it as benevolent. The fact is most East Asian men are physically cowardly rat-people, that's why they don't action their all-too-obvious passive aggressive rage :)
>They entire 19th century and 20th century Asian American History comes to mind.
You're right. The US should not have allowed any Chinese in at all. It seems the easiest way to escape allegations of racism is to have a system that is explicitly institutionally racist at every level, like East Asian ones are.
Sure they can, but the process is nowhere near as easy as it is for foreigners in the West.
you're closer to us (whites) than them. Geographically you're Asian, but you're Indo-European
>Sure they can, but the process is nowhere near as easy as it is for foreigners in the West.
That's not what was originally claimed, you fucking /pol/nigger.
Are you literally arguing that we should institute the same policies as other nations/ethnicities in reciprocity? That's idiotic. Two wrongd don't make a right, and ethnicities are not monolithic robots that all think the same way and support the same government policies.
What type do Asians have? The type that keeps you tiny and stringy?
Shabu's street price has skyrocketed since Duterte came to power. And I can't blame him for playing both sides.
As for Chinese gangsterism, it is absolutely supported by Chinese intelligence apparatus, and its no laughing matter or a subject for HK movie glorification. Chinese gangsters have quite literally destroyed Laos and Cambodia as cohesive states over the past few decades.
>The type of test that caucasoids have lead to balding and heart failure.
Yeah, the type that actually makes you bigger and stronger and not look like a little girl. I agree.
The sad thing is this is actually true.
You missed out
>*autistic screeching about not being considered real Americans while also spying for the PRC*
every few years though.
>Or maybe it's because foreigners cause most of the crime in Korea and China and thus are treated differently
They don't. Uighurs are the most disproportionate cause of street crime in China, but they're your Zhonghua Minzu brothers, better play nice Chang :-)
>shit in Korea about 80% of crimes are caused by Western expats
lol is this that bullshit "source" of that AsAm SJW who went to Korea to "work with rape victims"?
lmao, Korean men are the number one source of sex tourism in SEA. And that's a substantiated fact.
>It serves more to divide the culture/country than strengthen it
Keep believing that. The Asian Americans in this very thread are telling you exactly what they think of Whites, you're just ignoring them or willing yourself to believe they're a minority (they're not).
What I originally claimed was that naturalization was virtually impossible for a foreigner, and it is. You didn't even bother to read the fucking Nationality Law, it mentions NOTHING about a language test and marriage. Try again.
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>shabu's streetprice has skyrocketed
Source?
>Chinese gangesters have quite literally
Source?
You fuckers need to go back
until you find some actual sources for your bullshit racial attacks.
>Are you literally arguing that we should institute the same policies as other nations/ethnicities in reciprocity?
Broadly? Yes.
What do you get out of allowing yourself to be fucked by Chinese/East Asians while they maintain their own states as de facto racially exclusive? Nothing. A smug sense of superiority perhaps, but in the mean time they're working to undermine the West on almost every level.
>Two wrongd don't make a right, and ethnicities are not monolithic robots that all think the same way and support the same government policies.
Hah, they really, really are in the case of Overseas Chinese. Trust me.
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>You fuckers need to go back
Nah. I actually quite like his posts and find them interesting, I think it's more likely that you need to go back to /r/asianmasculinity where you belong, dicklet.
>"reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! don't insult the asian american experience! muh 'got rice?' shirts and asian parent jokes!"
To think I used to think you people were stoical. You're even whinier than niggers - at least they have shit lives to complain about.
>Your, Battalion Commanding Officer is a piece of shit.
>Your ordered to rescue another Battalion eating shit by the Germans.
>Know your Commander is going to fuck you up anyways.
>Know you are fucked going into battle, but you gotta rescue your fellow Americans and brothers in arms.
>Eat fucking shit.
>Banzai Charge!
>Rescue them.
>Your entire Battalion is fucked to all.
>Your Commanding Officer tells the entire 442nd to stand for recognition and awards
>Out of the 400 members of Company K only 18 were fucking left.
>Get back home from the war and eat fucking shit by the populace.
Is this the biggest JUST?