If North Korea has been "starving their own people" since the 1950's, how is there anyone left alive in North Korea?

If North Korea has been "starving their own people" since the 1950's, how is there anyone left alive in North Korea?

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'humanitarian aid'

North Korea has been opening their markets up with china as of late, which is why we keep on asking china to place sanctions on them

Obviously NK isn't the dystopia Western propaganda would have you believe. It's just a little dull, empty, and the state shoots a dissident every now and again. That doesn't mean there's a great deal to admire in their servile society devoid of any real meaning.

They were heavily supported by the USSR (China and Soviet Satellites like Mongolia helped also) who supplied them a lot of food, a big cause of the 90's famine was the collapse of the USSR and the lack of their support.

How can tens of milions of people be kept alive for decades, just through humanitarian aid? People wouldn't believe something as ridiculous about any other country. You can make the most insanely ridiculous, obviously false claims about NK you want, and people will still believe it. Is there a more extreme version of brainwashing anywhere in the world than this?

KOREA IS ONE OF FEW BASTIONS OF ANTIZIONISM THAT REMAIN IN THE WORLD.

Like any other client communist state. They were fine, more or less, until the Soviet Union collapsed. Though kim jong il fucked it up extra hard when he took power and caused a famine in the 90s.

he got out of the famine by building a nuclear bomb program and then blackmailing the West and others for aid. "feed me, and i won't make nuclear weapons" he said.

foreign aid dug them out of the famine and north korea built bombs anyways.

shut up spic

>comrade kim is posting on Veeky Forums right now.

that market only exists in Pyongyang. Where only party chosen and foreigners can shop. Just like the street photo is a sham. Kim2 and Kim3 have build up the buildings around the main streets to make the city look nice to foreigners. Go a block away from main streets and you find decades old commi bloc slums and even worse.

Go live there then faggot.

I don't think he'd be able to move there even if he wanted, North Korea is ethnocentric as fuck and wouldn't just let in some random foreigner and give him a citizenship.

>... Korea is ethnocentric...

THAT IS FALSE; THE CAUSE FOR DIFFULTY OF MOVING TO LIVE IN KOREA IS NOT POLITICAL, NOT ETHNIC.

They only started starving in the 90s
Nowadays they're not starving and are becoming more capitalistic

>... [BUT] ETHNIC.

>... [NOT ETHNIC, BUT POLITICAL].

THIS MUST BE PSYKHIC SABOTAGE.

That's what I said though. They don't like people who aren't racially Korean, there's virtually zero immigration.

Aren't there tonnes of Chinese people in the South and even a few in the North

We're talking about DPRK m8.

Oh, yeah I can't the chance of anyone moving there or even being allowed considering the nature of the country

they're talking about the peasants in the countryside fucktard

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more like mental gymnastics.

I don't think you know what "mental gymnastics" means...

nk helped prop up china's communist party in the 1940s by providing military support

>North Korea is ethnocentric as fuck and wouldn't just let in some random foreigner and give him a citizenship.
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ARE YOU OKAY? IS YOUR KEYBOARD BROKEN?

This is true and they've even made efforts to minimize the noticeability of this in satellite imagery by developing the areas that come out in pictures deliberately.
A block or two behind the buildings with facades facing the roads in some places there are nothing but fields and no suburb in sight.

Am I being memed

they're not starving everybody at once

Some of those are true but really misrepresented. For example there is government corruption in SK but it is far worse in NK. NK exports drugs and weapons all over the world and has a black market full of all sorts of things.

>how is there anyone left alive in North Korea
now that's a problem that needs saving.

We need to call in our bombers and free all these people once and for all.

They won't let you, since they are one of the few states that actually care about their ethnos.

KOREA IS NOT ETHNOTRIBALISTIC.

They'd let you move there but you'd be segregated from the rest of the populace.

All those points are true, strictly speaking. It demonstrates the power of cherry picking.

FINLAND IS NOT ETHNOAUTISTIC

lel

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Chronic malnutrition=/=0 daily caloric intake

He's back again

theyre all cannibals, this is the cycle of life in North Korea
>get born
>indoctronated to love dear leader
>join millitary or slave away in mining/ farming
>get old
>get eaten by your kids so they too get to enjoy livng in North Korea

>nothing but fields and no suburb in sight.
How is that bad? Suburbs are a plague in the landscape and are inhabited by the worst population. Do you prefer to see barracks filled with Abduls instead of fields?

Kek

what's happening in the pic?

NK imports food from China. And people can survive on very little, they just grow up to be short, weak and sickly and don't make it to their 50s.

North korea's daily routine

You're retarded if you even consider random images on Veeky Forums to be accurate sources of information.

That factory worker looks so fucking dead inside.

>every person can retire comfortably with no reduction in purchasing power

KEK, that's technically true.

Yeah, no blacks allowed

Is he Mexican or Arab? I keep hearing both.

But Kim looks so happy

Turanic

I'm 100% sure that the factory worker died a week later in concentration camp

Is North Korea capable of collapsing in on itself like a normal shit hole state? Or does it require an external force like SK, PRC, or US actually applying force to make it collapse?

Hard to say from a layman's perspective, since so much of the internal structure of the regime is either unknown or classified. But it seems likely that the present state of de-facto military rule can continue on for the medium term at least (next 10 or so years).

If it does collapse, it is likely to be some sort of falling out from within the NK brass. There don't seem to be any viable alternate source of political power and legitimacy around which you can form a group that can upstage the military over the poor economic situation.

However, external pressure bringing down NK is unlikely to happen, even if it theoretically could work. Nobody wants to deal with the aftermath of a NK collapse and what happens between China and SK afterwards.

>collapsing in on itself like a normal shit hole state
Countries don't collapse like that in real life. Zimbabwe, Guyana, Bangladesh etc are still there and they are far worse.

Whoever told you that is lying to you.

The food problems started after the collapse of the USSR since that means they lost their only major trade partner.

Hard to tell what's what with NK but some of the talk I've seen suggests that they've recovered at least in keeping their head above water a couple years ago. They supplant growth with food aid from the U.S. and South Korea.

Bangladesh is a somewhat properly functioning state. I mean it's not ruled by a ducktator or anything

It just happens to be on a floodplain...

I can't tell if you DPRKboos are being edgy or if you are really unironically apologetic for what is arguably one of the most totalitarian regimes on the planet. Yeah its not a dystopian hellhole where people starve to death but malnutrition is still a problem and its such a secretive regime that we don't know much about what occurs there. All we can get is defector's accounts and the accounts of high ranking defectors.

yes and what does this have to do with Nork tier dictators?

0.01 yuan has been deposited in your account

yea but to other countries. Taliban grows opium even though it is haram because it poisons the west.

Only Drumpf cock holsters hate North Korea.

user talked about shitholes.

Not true. A few US army defectors have lived in the DPRK for decades. They are local celebrities, loved by the people. They hang out with regular people like everyone else.

Those roads look better paved than the ones in my area.

With the current technology it's almost impossible to starve everyone to death. I'm sure the elite is well fed, but the rest barely makes it. Pionyang is a show-off place, you cannot freely wander around NK and see how shit flies outside. It is truly a shithole.

That's because no one ever uses those roads

kys you fucking retard

what kind of subhuman needs 3 tries to get a single sentence right

>Capri Sonne is selled in north korea
Nice

Koreans aren't Africans.

>NK exports drugs and weapons all over the world and has a black market full of all sorts of things.
>yfw Kim turned NK in their own ancap paradise.

What is he doing inside of that sausage barrel haha a really cheerful lad

NK isn't Ancap in the slightest. You don't now a thing about Ancap.

>All we can get is defector's accounts and the accounts of high ranking defectors.

And, you know, the Chinese/Manchu who live and work there. They view them as an assbackwards place, but still very much a normal place by commie standards (which is pretty much what it is, along with the ban on travel and stuff).

It's a joke m8, calm down.

this but unironically

Like every third world nation on the planet, North Korea includes some people suffering from severe malnutrition.

But there was a legit famine back in the 90s, caused by an over-reliance on Soviet trade, which made for excellent propaganda for the Western, South Korean, and Japanese forces that want to rile up support for regime change in the DPRK

A cool thing about central planning is that you don't need to rely on the lowest bidder for public works projects.

The big problem however is that non-capitalist governments have a much more difficult time acquiring the money for these projects due to sanctions and the lack of incentive for foreigners to invest.

DPRK is experiencing a period of prosperity right now through increased trade with Africa and Southeast Asia, but I don't know how long it will last.

pls kim, you did jack shit

Wow, a rational post, rare.

Of all things, why are people so eager to defend DPRK nowadays? Who is this meant to be contrarian towards?

(((Central banks)))

Nobody actually defends North Korea, it's all ironic.

You do realize people can be "starving" for years before they die?

Why are people so eager to attack NK? There are hundreds of bloody shitholes worst than them, why this one?

Rumblings of conflict with them giving cause to the tankies to post defending them.

Most people support it for the same reason they support any country threatened by US imperialism.

Because we realized we got bamboozled to get into Iraq by the same reasons people are using to get us to invade in NK

There's that thing about the nukes
>hundreds of bloody shitholes worst than them
Nope. NK is in the top ten at the least.

>There's that thing about the nukes
Iran, Pakistan, China...
Dare say they are a lesser threat.

>Dare say they are a lesser threat.
They are a lesser threat.

They HAVE actual nukes, huge armies, psychotic governments, and somehow they are a lesser threat? Nice brainwashing.

Contrarianism?

A lot of normies are becoming slightly more pro North Korea because of Trump's aggressive rhetoric against them

Some commies have always liked their defence of US imperialism and Nazis appreciate how they don't have any Jews

Humanitarianism

Last time we went to war with North Korea, three million people died and the whole peninsula was flattened