Why does everybody hate on Africa so much on Veeky Forums? African history is rich and long...

Mostly because their history is garbage and people usually make Apex fallacies that have eurocentric criterion's to "appreciate" African history and culture.

Egyptians and Berbers were Caucasian, and the Nubians only conquered Egypt for one dynasty before being destroyed by the Assyrians

Mali is nearly 1000 miles away from the Mediterranean

Porch monkeys trying to claim Olmec civilization is what triggers me the most.

>Mali
You know where Mali is right? Because I don't think you do.

yes, Western Africa, following down the same med path as morroco, Algeria, etc...

They are of med origin you dumb ducks stop trying to play semantics. Why do you think they all have Muslim names

>African history

Which one?

lol where does this Mali meme come from? I can understand that the case of Egypt is debatable because it's the door of Africa, but Mali is deep down black Africa with absolutely no link with the mediteranean world...

>Mali are meds
Your dedication to this meme is really something else

>the case of Egypt is debatable
it isn't, we have genomic data

Mali was founded by Arabs from the Med.

>Egyptians and Berbers were Caucasian
They ARE Caucasian, Arabs are Caucasian too. Caucasian has nothing to do with skin colour.

THEY WERE MUSLIMS. How the FUCK DO YOU THINK THAT HAPPENED? MANSU FAGGOT
HIMSELF PILGRIMAGED TO MECCA. THESE ARE MEDS THAT SPENT TOO MUCH TIME IN THE SUN. LOOK AT THEIR FACIAL CHARACTERISTICS. THEY ARENT BANTU. LOOK AT THEIR SUCCESS. SUCCESS ISNT SOMETHING BANTUS ARE
CAPABLE OF. THEY ARE
MEDS

No idiot, they're the descendants of Atlantis

>Egyptians and Berbers were Caucasian

Are you conflating African and black history? Wtf?

The first people to call them Negroids were White. On white supremacist websites in the past and sometimes even today you'll see them call Olmecs negroid and call the elites of Aztecs and Inca Aryan and Caucasoid.

The arguments of black negrocentrics is rooted in the white led racialist physical anthropological movement of the late 19th and mid 20th century.

The kangz meme and people that like to discuss Africa are so defensive of it that people like to troll them

You do know Islam expanded through trade and not just conquest? I'm guessing Somalia and Ethopia are meds too since they had and Christianity and Islam as a major religion too. Really makes you think when people take religion as the sole reason to place them with other groups.

Yes, they are meds. They all came from the Saharan desert

Kongolese are meds too, they converted to Christianity.

It's boring
It's like asking "why don't you care about native american's history!"
Because it's fucking boring

I know, I never said they were white, but they aren't black either. Although Berbers are pretty white, unfortunately colloquial usage of the term Berber no longer implies ethnic origins but cultural.

native american history is interesting

take the metis for example

They are aren't really Veeky Forums because most of Sub-Saharan africa didn't have a written record and therefore not having any recorded history outside of hearsay from secondary sources and folktales. Everything North was the Christian and Muslim world stomping ground, and Is for the most part already accounted for, if not especially venerated.

of course there's way less to look at without as much or any writing but that's not the same thing as being boring in my book, in fact it can add a lot of mystique

Seminole, Comanche, and Anasazi are also pretty interesting desu

Maybe youre just fucking stupid

Well Congratulations guys, you actually pissed me off. like literally im flaming mad right now.

So im gonna dump some history if you don't mind

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Some victories

Sub saharan africa produced jack shit. Do not insult my intelligence.

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Coffee

People are White on this picture

No true Africa fallacy

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I haven't praised Ethiopia it seems

Also, if you talk too much about any one region in Africa and you quickly get onto the topic of slavery and how pervasive it was. A lot of horrible inter tribe and inter confederation incidents. Sadly today's political climate means that talking about anything besides chattel slavery in America is frowned upon.

I see why, this whole thread got torn to shambles on its first post, then that one guy at the bottom just dumping shit to make his thread pop.

You never see any other topic, like this that gets the same treatment other than Africa, its depressing

They have ARABIC names because they were some of the first West Africans to accept Islam, you stupid fucking faggot. Are niggas in America like Jamal and Hakeem Arabs too?

You're right, they aren't Bantus, as Bantus live in Central, Southern, and parts of East Africa. West Africans are where the proto-Bantus game from. Calling all West Africans Bantu (as Bantus are different enough from West Africans enough to be their own large ethnic and liguistic group) is like calling all Southern Europeans Iberian, or all Southeast Asians Austronesian. Are you some butthurt Arab or Berber or something, or are you a horrible troll?

What that user means is that western africa is part of muslim civilizations because the greatest of them were muslim.
Indigenous african culture is very barebones just like most isolated cultures.

And? Only Europeans have the "luxury" to only have one race native to their side of the landmass, Africans and Asians have multiple on each continent. Berbers, despite most of them not looking racially black, are literally African, as they have been in that continent for thousands of years. It's like how Indians are just as Asian as Iranians and Chinese people, they're native to the landmass of Asia. Like it or not, but Egypt, despite culturally and genetically having a little more in common with the Middle East, is literally African.

It would still be incorrect, as West African civilizations started to develop in 800 AD (unless the Nok culture counts, they're the oldest iron users in Africa) without Islam. Might as well say Europe is Middle Eastern civilization since early Europeans got agriculture, animal herding (except horses, the Yamna of Eastern Europe and Central Asia gave them that), and civilization with either direct or indirect Middle Eastern origins. Even the Minoans, Europe's first proper civilization were influenced by outside help.

Besides, the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa that wasn't living a pastoral or agricultural life style was in the minority, like the San and Pygmies, and they got BANTU'd by more advanced people who spread out throughout Central and Southern Africa.

So everything is fault of white people again?

Let's put it this way: The African American version of WE WUZ X N SHIT is not very successful in Africa, where people actually do know where they came from. I was watching this mini-documentary about the descendants of Maroons in Jamaica who speak a creole language (Jamaican spirit-possession language, Jamaican Maroon Creole, Kromanti, deep patwa, it has many names) that is remarkable close to some languages spoken in Ghana, which gives a clear link as to what country most Jamaicans come from, but there were some Black Hebrew Israelite faggots going on in the comment section about how Jamaicans and Ghanaians are Hebrews, when all of a sudden actual Ghanaians cursed them out and called them brainwashed fools.

African history or African "history"?
>we wuz [egyptians/chinese/hebrews/native americans/indians]
>yakub

That's a pathetic ""city"" and it's pretty telling that the only picture you can find of it was drawn not by a nigger, but by a European.
Fucking nigger lover

Mali is as black as it gets, but its "empire" was a meme and the only think it left behind was a French built 5 meters tall sandcastle

fpbp

/pol/tards trying to draw attention away from the fact that the only nigger in the room is them

>claims to not be /pol/
>uses nigger as an insult
back you go, friend

Because Africa was everyone's cumdumpster during conquests, colonization, fuck all.

Wow, no need to be rude.

No, I use it in its most straightforward definition: someone who glorifies their own ignorance

>There are two continents of Africa

I don't care because I don't like black people in general

no racist tho

black people or (((black culture)))?

Because
>Veeky Forums is infested with stormnigger retards with no real interest in history that they can't jack off too
>the people who claim to be interested in 'African history' are just trying to dig up whatever black accomplishments they can find without taking a real interest in any specific African societies
>Veeky Forums's obsession with autistic memes like WEWUZing (regardless of the fact that Europeans do this with every culture on Earth, as do Indians, Turks, etc) poisoning the minds of impressionable morons
>the chronic compulsion of Americans to bring their diseased society and politics into any discussion, turning every thread into an IQ debate
>Veeky Forums is generally garbage and not interested in history for its own sake, instead treating it as a competitive sport where subhuman larpers try to make their own team look best

because it makes the resident nigs and leftyderps buttmad.

besides, this is still Veeky Forums after all. were you expecting anything different?