Confirmed hoaxes and other claims based on bad evidence

I'll start with the our boy, Divine Hand.

>The Japanese Paleolithic hoax (旧石器捏造事件 Kyū Sekki Netsuzō Jiken) consisted of a number of lower and middle paleolithic finds in Japan discovered by amateur archaeologist Shinichi Fujimura, which were later all discovered to have been faked.

>For finds from the Jōmon period or later, structures were originally made by digging below the then-current surface, causing changes in soil composition that make it much easier to discern fakes from real finds. The Paleolithic Hoax highlighted some of the shortcomings of Japanese archaeological research into paleolithic sites, such as an over-reliance on the dating of volcanic ash layers while ignoring other soil layers.

>Fujimura had begun faking discoveries when he was working as an amateur archaeologist in the 1970s, when he became close to various paleolithic research groups in Miyagi Prefecture. He found numerous artifacts and relics in quick succession, all from the Japanese Paleolithic era. Some researchers were initially sceptical of Fujimura's finds, as there was little expectation that stone tools of such an age would be found in Japan. However, Fujimura's success in finding artifacts soon silenced his critics, and his reputation as a leading amateur archaeologist was firmly established by the early 1980s. He was seen as an indispensable member of any archaeological team, with some going so far as to describe him as "divine hand".

>The truth behind Fujimura's archaeological fraud was exposed by the newspaper Mainichi Shinbun, in a morning edition article on November 5, 2000. At the time, Fujimura was working as deputy director of the Tōhoku Paleolithic Institute, a private research center. Hearing the rumour of fraud, journalists from Mainichi newspaper installed hidden cameras on a dig site Fujimura was working on and caught him implanting artifacts. With video, the newspaper later confronted Fujimura and he was forced to confess his fraud.

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>Bosnian pyramids

Literally just fucking hills

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_character_stone
I mean, I don't think it's a "confirmed" hoax but

>literally says "the Communist Party of China" in modern Chinese characters
>There are no traces of the characters being made by humans.[1]
Right.

I mean, I expect anything from the Chinese government (don't think Chinese scholars have any say). Didn't they also try to cover up a bunch of findings that showed non-Han and possibly white people in the western provinces? Random Veeky Forums sinophiles help, please.

Piltdown Man

We could say the same about conquistadors making shit up about literally everything, yet the consensus put them above all if there is not hard evidence.

How is that the same? You're talking about sources being inaccurate, I'm talking about national propaganda trying to dispose of physical evidence that doesn't fit their agenda.

>national propaganda trying to dispose physical evidence
That's literally the history of all Latin-American nations regarding precolumbian cultures and the struggle and rejection of non-conquistador sources for many instances and the rejection of excavations and revisionism for centuries. Even now there are many sectors that reject the new proven findings and the fact that the conquistadors made a lot of shit up and didn't allow other historians to record information that didn't put them as saviors and the indigenous as savages. Today this context is omitted and not considered when facing revisionism and they treat such lies as "past consensus" that needs direct proof to be replaced instead of being categorized as a posibility that is affected by contemporary propaganda.

Are you kidding? The biggest pseudo-history in Latin America is the notions that indigenismo produced.

>that showed non-Han and possibly white people in the western provinces

I thought that much was widely accepted.

They lived around the area of the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexi_Corridor

>Didn't they also try to cover up a bunch of findings that showed non-Han and possibly white people in the western provinces?
No?

Chink historians do know that Xinjiang/Tarim Basin was populated by Non-Hans. It's still the case now. The fuck you're talking about.

bullshit, latin american countries have excellent museums and historians

Not him but they did some sort of manipulation. The tarim mummies were exposed in museums along with mongoloid mummies from neighbour regions (but not the same place) to downplay tocharian development (as if the han were always there) and to prevent it from being used to fuel uyghur/minority nationalism, the downplay of "the han created everything in modern China" narrative and related stuff.

In other words, yes they recognize it but manipulated the way it's presented for political reasons. Typical PRC garbage

But we know that indo iranian tribes lived to the west of mongoloid tribes.

HOW THO LOOK AT THAT SHAPE

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

This and all other crimes by Stalin.
Every man with common sense can see the capitalist propaganda in claims about Stalin killing millions without any evidence to back it. All reputable historians hold it as a hoax but it is sad to see that these lies are still fed to us.

How did he get away with it for almost 30 years?

Because the majority of Japs are crazies that believed they're the chosen people, so probably telling them that they came from space one million years ago would seem entirely possible.

>Confirmed hoaxes
/pol/ and /leftypol/ plz no derail

What about the famine of the Great Leap Forward? Are those all "capitalist propaganda" too? Or the crimes committed by the Cultural Revolution? Jesus. Don't bait in this thread.

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Chinese archaeologists are the ones who literally discovered the ugyhur mummies and announced that they had red hair/light brown hair.

>we know
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That's not what the links claim. The Tarim mummies != the uyghurs or turks or han

Japanese "history" is mostly pseudo-science bullshit that puts Korea/China to shame.

There's very little archaeological history before the 600's in Japan. Why? Because written language did not exist before classical Chinese arrived.

Well... it's not exactly a "confirmed" hoax, but the evidence is there...

>let's ignore thousands of years of jomon activity
I would've understood had you said written records and the Jimmu bullshit, but archaeological evidence? There's thousands of dogus alone, never mind ENDLESS pottery. And entire settlements that have been dug up and reconstructed. You're either a hateful Chinaman/Korean or you're talking out of your ass.
Not saying gooks don't love to exaggerate claims and outright lie about how amazing they are, but Japan has some of the oldest and best documented paleolithic findings.

I'm not clued in on the specifics, but archaeologists/historians =/= dumb Commie officials with governmental power.

>The Tarim mummies != the uyghurs or turks or han
That doesn't prevent uyghurs to take them as part of their territory on their independentist rethoric or to show that the han have no claim to that region

The PRC hates ANYTHING even if farfetched or wewuz tier that attempts against their territorial control. That's why they have such an agressive ethnic replacement policy in Tibet

All indigenismo is is simply using indigenous sources to study history rather than exclusively using Spanish sources

They lived closer actually. Scythians and other Indo Iranians lived in the Ordos Loop and Dzungaria before getting RICED to oblivion. The Tocharians in the Tarim Basin were driven out so hard by the Chinks they ended up in India of all places.

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The Japanese polity first began in the 600's.

The cultures before that were not Japanese, and that's the point I was making.

Dumb governmental officials have nothing to do with the tarim mummies being uncovered.

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Uyghurs worked with the Qing to genocide the dzungars and turks.

Who is "indigenous" to central asia is completely irrelevant. There's been so many genocides and ethnic replacements in the area that we have no clue who the original inhabitants were.

One thing is true, uyghurs are not the original inhabitants of Xinjiang.

>uyghurs are not the original inhabitants of Xinjiang.
Then why do the Chinese not just genocide them out for Chinese lebensraum? Fuck em