Space-Faring Economy

How would a Space-Faring economy work? How would the economy deal with the introduction of "infinite resources"? Things such as Iron ore and Titanium in large abundance alongside rare Earth materials that can also be found and mined at high quantities. This combined with future energy production such as Helium powered Fusion reactors and even spaced based solar farms. How could an economy even survive with our current standards and models?

The Jews will still control it. All the way to the Kuiper Belt and beyond, goy.

Thanks for the contribution. But what I find interesting is the emergence of infinite resources. Even basic materials could be mined cheap and in mass, labor costs would be non existent, along with massive unemployment. On one hand, building materials such as Iron would be sold for practically free, which has the positive of allowing business to purchase and create really anything without huge upfront costs, while on the other hand. The selling of said materials would be worthless. How would we mitigate this?

Serious answer from Veeky Forums:
Buy Solarcoin and Fusioncoin (if FSN ever happens).
The only thing that would change economic outcomes in the future is "light lag". It'd take a while to buy Martian Weed (not to mention shipping times), just because light is not fast enough.
Basically, you're looking at 1 economy per 1 lightsecond per solar system at maximum forking.
Also, physical assests in a post-scarcity economy would likely only be valuable in bulk (like giant blocks of gold can buy you a hamburger made from real cow) or in manufactured form (like, I'll trade you this hyper-surface-area Mooncoin mining rig that uses shit tons of gold in it, for some cloned thots to abuse).

Does this satisfy you?

(Shekelstein will still be running all of it, so I'm sorry in advance)

Nothing is infinite.
Even if (we) develop a fusion energy "glut", the best we can do with it is burn lead with lasers until it turns to gold (alchemy, basically).
While I own no gold IRL, I can still confidently say that gold will be a precious resource, for both a storage of value and as electronics (think BIG electronics, like a smart grid on earth or a giant lunar gold foil grid radiating waste heat into space from mining MOON )

We can mitigate "worthless" accumulated materials by 1. Shooting them out of our solar system (total waste) or 2. Find a purpose for them, even if its building giant carbon-ice sculptures to 'customize' the solar system.

Bump for outsider input

Also, drop some MOON on this nerd, I spend days typing papers about the prospects of fusion, cryptocurrency and the art of crypsis - never standing out.
(Moon.edu coming soon)
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the cost of fuel and perishable goods would be the highest costs

> MOON
Like the movie or am I being retarded?

We'll never get there. Neither will the jews. We're gonna die on this rock, all because we traded our humanity for a little comfort.

Post-scarcity economy.

The books Down and Out In the Magic Kingdom by Cory Doctorow and The Culture series by Ian Banks are excellent for exploring the idea.

This. We threw Jesus aside.

>not holding 100k MOON
Been here long, friend?

Save OP some time and mention "Player of Games"! Best book in The Culture series (brace for gender-swapping)

Basically, if you don't know what's going on, the Jews do their subversion thing, their shit in the water, the cancer, empowering women, race mixing, all this to make the goyim a shitty group of very controllable, but still tax farmable people.

This is pretty easy to see.

The next part of their master plan, however is a little more abstract. Think back to your Bible studies, user. What is original sin? Well, it is the desire to be like God. The snake tricked Eve into eating the apple because she was told that she would be like God. This desire to be like God is built into every human, hence original sin. It is this Jewish desire for power over all, and is antithetical to how we should approach God (faith, obedience etc.)

Now back to the kikes.

They are using this construct they've made to try and transcend. They believe that with the technology and near unlimited money the elites possess, they can become like God (via the singularity possibly?) And leave the goyim behind to die on this Earth.

The promised Land is not on this sphere, goy, your princess is in another castle. The true Israel is not that piece of land next to Egypt, it is another planet. Think about it. It is all part of God's plan for his chosen people.

Too bad your coins will buy you a ticket on that ship.

Not joking, I actually started that book earlier this week. Main dude just got blackmailed by militarywannabebot.

We already practically have "infinite resources", user. Like, people really don't understand how fucking big the Earth is, mostly because they get beat in the head in school with shit like "Look how small the Earth is compared to the Sun! Look at this really big number of humans who live on Earth, that is so many more than you can count on your hands, isn't it? Look at this really big number of barrels of oil we use each year, isn't that also a big number? Think how much bigger that number would be if we measured our oil consumption in cups or even teaspoons! That is so many numbers, right?

It is bullshit. All this bullshit is designed to create the illusion of scarcity, and practically all the prices for things you need to live or build are controlled or manipulated so as to keep them all nonzero so that markets can exist and to delay the arrival of communism, which should have happened oh about 100 years ago when money became meaningless relative to production.

Think of it like this, the volume of the earth is 260,000,000,000 cubic miles, and we only use like 2 or 3 cubic miles of oil a year for the whole world. Now, you have to estimate some percentage for how much oil is in the earth and is extractable with fancy technologies, this number can't be too low or else we'd never find any oil at all. And you have to consider that there's some process or life deep in the earth that creates more oil, because that shit obviously didn't come from fucking dead dinosaurs, and oil wells mysteriously fill back up and last longer than expected. So take the volume of the earth, multiply it by like 0.0001% (how much extractable oil we guess makes up Earth's volum), divide that by 5 (cubic miles of oil consumed per year) to be on the safe side, and you've got enough oil to last the Earth longer than recorded civilization. The Earth is BIG and there's a LOT of oil in it. Lots of other shit, too. More than we could ever feasibly use.

Other benefits and cons of a post-scarcity economy:
Cons
>ywn live to see it
>individual identity will be meaningless unless you have moneys or rare skills
>you may be born into a class or 'strata' that guarantees you will never go anywhere - like being Irish in the USA
>people will probably fuck with you because they simply can, without consequences (probably lots of pirates too)

Pros:
>ywn starve or go hungry
>you will probably enjoy a long lifespan because of an 'easier' lifestyle compared to your ancestors in 2017
>earning 'money' will be easier than ever
>making tons of money directly related to the goods and services you produce
>you will likely be 'king' over any thing you own, including the digital landscapes you occupy, but smart devices and unoccupied territory
>ywn have to go through a middle man for transfer of funds and data
>you can easily gain cult followings and hire armies if you have money or charisma (easier than in 2017)

Basically, this user knows whats up.

A post scarcity civilization has been in our grasp for nearly 100 years now, but too many psychopaths want it all for themselves, so shit like WW2 happens and worse... Basically, we're all living in the shittiest version of The Matrix rn...you are just a producer of goods and services for the kings (banks) of your country.

Great book! I've read it a couple of times now. Still waiting for my drug glands to mature...

>burn lead with lasers until it turns to gold
that's not how it works, you brainlet
kys commie

Who says they didn't already transcend and are swooping back here to steal children?

t. UFO witness (5 sightings now)

Deep Earth mining is a lot more sensible than space mining. No reason to go out to space for "more resources", we have plenty enough here. There's really no reason to switch from gas and electric, no global warming bullshit either, it was just an excuse for the left to defund businesses that tend to finance and vote for the right, while also giving the left an excuse to send tax dollars to lefty cronies.
Like I said, the only thing that previously made resources "scarce" was our lack of technology. But with technology the entire Earth is open to extraction, all it takes is manpower and time. What gets in the way is regulations from one party to reduce production from the other party, using the excuse of "protecting the environment", stuff like wanting to keep their property values high by reducing housing stock, etc.
But without this bullshit prices would be near zero and therefore markets would be impossible and people wouldn't have an easy metric to keep score with to know whether they are doing good or bad.
Really, production of stuff like food and clothes way exceeds demand. Shit is designed to be obsolete and fall apart after a number of uses to keep money coming. I mean, just look at Africa and a few other places, practically everyone there now has clothes you know. You think they bought those clothes? Like just over 100 years ago or so everyone in undeveloped nations ran around in tribal gear. Now everyone wears tshirts and jeans that were surplus/unsold and just dumped in their country as donations. In a few short years we made enough clothes for literally billions of people.

Just consider the fact that there's more vacant homes than homeless people in America.

OK, that's not exactly how it works, but I'm on Veeky Forums talking about future space commie shit, cut me some slack here!

What would youuuu do with an excess of electricity in a spacefaring setting??
I can imagine that setting up Laser Highways would cost a lot of energy, but even without fusion, our local star has more than enough energy to push spacecraft and power a space pr0n data center for trillions of fapping neets... so, what do we do with all that energy?

this is dumb and you should feel dumb

>Basically, we're all living in the shittiest version of The Matrix
Exactly, it is like when Agent Smith tells Neo how they made utopian matrixes before but lost entire crops so they had to make the shitty matrix.
The big downside of our egalitarian society is that when everyone is 'equal' there's no way to determine who has to do the work and who gets to just laze around. Because even though we have massive surplus, some people still need to work. Just 1% of the labor force makes enough food for everyone in the country and shit tons of exports too. If we had a clear hierarchy and things like slave classes, we could easily determine who does the dirty work. But because that wouldn't be "fair" then we have to have everyone work in some capacity, doing something, even if the job is totally absurd and meaningless, like Human Resources, because if you aren't doing SOMETHING then that guy flipping burgers is gonna be mighty pissed at you! He'd rather someone get paid for sweeping the grass than not be as miserable as he is.
But hopefully soon we'll have robots and AI to do all the slave work, at least until some idiot progressives decide to campaign for robot liberation and demand we all work alongside robots or some dumb shit.

I mean, job creators create competition, divisions in society, just so a few more people can have jobs trying to beat some other people at something. We have to keep starting wars just to justify military expenditures, but think what would happen if we didn't employ all those military, it isn't like there's enough job openings for all them people; think how much we spend on anti-terrorism relative to the actual risk.
But even the meaningless jobs usually try to help the worker develop in some way, by teaching discipline and including social functions and crap.

The only thing valuable will be ideas and "intellectual property". You'll pay with computing resources kind of like how as a miner, you "pay" for crypto by mining it.

With decent population controls we'll never get to the point where we actually need to leave the Earth for resources or territory. All the current billions on Earth currently could fit fairly comfortably in an area the size of Texas, especially with skyscrapers and even underground domiciles. We've got a long long time before the sun ever burns out, no need to get a bunch of people killed trying to colonize outerspace when we've got plenty of available shit here.
Like I said, the Earth is BIG. But these days we think it is a lot smaller than it is, mainly because we have so many fast methods of transportation now. Imagine walking thirty miles to work every day
Communism is inevitable when you produce way more shit than can be demanded. We ship free shit to Africa and change wardrobes every year just to keep income flowing to the clothes companies.
Think like this: if we have a clothes factory and we upgrade it with new tech that lets it produce millions of clothes a day then eventually we make more clothes than anyone has need, want, or room for. After we donate shit tons of clothes to Africa, it has eventually made more than the market demands and the price for the clothes goes to zero and the company shuts down. This eventually happens with most all products and the price for everything is zero, but each time a company shuts down there's less workers with income, so each subsequent company has to sell at lower and lower prices and give more shit away to all the people who had to move to Africa because they had no income. You slow this down by creating new pointless bullshit and ponzis and meaningless jobs, but eventually everyone ends up in Africa except like that one dude who bought up all the factories and now doesn't have anyone to sell to because no one else has any money and no one needs more shit anyway. This is how capitalism ends without constant manipulation and redistribution and shit.

honestly OP we wont be doing diddly squat in space besides sending the billion dollar equivalent of RC cars on a martian rock.
But but elon musk...mark my words elon musk wont be going to mars either.
Remember virgin galactic...look at how many times they have changed and rescheduled their plans.
No im not a flat earther but i do believe we just dont have the will as a species to explore space and honestly sometimes i fluctuate on whether we ever went to the moon in the first place.
Here some red pill on space exploration for you

Human explore,does it make sense to explore a place 5 to 8 times and then NEVER do it again.

We went to space at a time when computers took up an entire building, but now we dont have the ability to do it when an iphone has 1000x the computign power of a 1960s computer.

Why has no nation in the past 40 years sent any drones to the moon again.

Every nasa built spaceship that was supposed to improve the space program has been scrapped. x33, aerospike engine all canned all shelved. They said for cost reason, Yet we can easily print 80billion dollars a MONTH on tarp for years. When nasa only needed 1/10 of that for a year.

Nasa budget gets cut, yet we spend 1trillion+ on the iraq war.

How could it be we are worried about running out of resources and too many humans on earth, when there are quadrillion to the power of a quadrillion tonnes of resources in space. You have whole planets made out of methane, saturn has rings littered with millions frozen water rocks the size of a us destroyer ship.

Face it..we arent going to space ever