Could it actually work if the hunagrians got slapped around a bit?

Could it actually work if the hunagrians got slapped around a bit?
Or would it fall apart anyways?

Its hard to tell because what really destroyed the Austro-Hungarian Empire wasn't entirely nationalism of component states, but WWI.

Either way, I predict Nationalism wouldve gotten to retardo levels in an alternate universe where the AH Empire survived WWI/didn't have WWI. So IMO it would eventually fall apart but for how long is anybody's guess.

Was there anything Austrian about this Empire?

There wasn't.

Most of the time, the locals just call it the Habsburg Empire or the Dual Monarchy or simply "The Empire."

It was the last real monarchy in Europe. The rest were cucked by Nationalism by that point.

dude just slap around like half the population of our shitty crumbling empire
what are they gonna do revolt lmao????
t. OP

>Hungarians
>half the population
?

>hunagrians
>half the half the population

Nah, the perfidy of the Magyars would have found a way to ruin everything. Hungary deserved what they got after the war.

Slavs made 40% to 50% of the population and they wanted out. At the end, federalist proposals were made, but were rejected.

I don't see why you seem to think that Hungary was the sole reason for collapse.

>they wanted out
Only Serbs really did and tried.

>Could it actually work?
>Or would it fall apart anyways?

Only with patience and understanding

I hate people with historical determinist views. Nothing in history is absolutely certain. Austro-Hungarian Empire could have found some way to survive, just like it was never guaranteed that the Roman Empire would collapse in the west in the way it did. In many ways Rome was closer to collapse in 250 AD than it was in 400 AD.

Any number of small events could have added up to a different outcome.

>Slavs

Slavified Hungarians like Slovaks

The Hungarians were the only good part of the empire

It might have lasted for a few decades, but nationalism is a very powerful mobilising ideology. Just look at countries such as Yugoslavia, Belgium, Canada, Spain, etc. All have very powerful independence movements. It is very hard to effectively construct a representative democracy in a country with distinct national groups with their own languages. The only country that can peacefully manage distinct groups in a democratic way is Switzerland, and that's mainly because of its decentralised and local way of governing.

As it was made clear that the war was over, everyone wanted the monarchy to end; Austrians, Hungarians and every other ethnicity part of the empire. Up to early 1918, seccession was not discussed by anyone as there was still a belief that some kind of federalism or at least a higher rate of autonomy might still be possible but by the time it was clear that the war was over, there were liberals demanding the dissolution of the empire and the establishment of nation states in Vienna and Budapest.

Slavified by who? And when?

mfw Imperial Germany declares war on Austro-Hungary

>slavshits at it again

so communist fairytales about evil magyarization is still a thing i guess

you got your minority laws passed, local schools, local administration, but no UGA BOOGAAA PANSLAVISM WE RUSKIES NAU

Dem Hungarianzs be keepin us down, we need mo money fo dem programs annn sheeet.

No, not panslavism, but sheer survival, especially for slavs in modern Slovakia who were effectively subject to heavy magyarization. The Czech people had very few things going to them, local administration was a thing, but in German language, the same goes for most schools. Most of the middle-class and above that was made of Germans.
Hungary has never proven they want anything but benefits for hungarians themselves. Name one example that disproves this.

>if the hunagrians got slapped around a bit

It took the combined efforts of two European superpowers in 1848 to slap the Hungarians around a bit.

>[X nation] has never proven they want anything but benefits for [X nation] themselves.

Any empire ever.

By Czechs.

There is a diference between English approach to Scots in modern history and between Hungary and their puppets over the time.