Why didn't the Japanese attack the Soviet Union?
Wouldn't a two-front war against the Soviets help Germany much more than triggering the Americans?
Why were the Japanese so autistic?
Why the fuck was Hitler allied to them?
What did he gain from it?
All they did was fuck his shit up.
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>why didn't the Japanese attack the soviets?
They did and got btfo so badly the navy took over because the armies lost credibility.
Because they'd lose?
This, Northern Expansion Doctrine was BTFO by IJA autism.
Still doesn't explain why Hitler wanted to keep them as allies. Even the Romanians were more useful to him.
Khalakin Go. en.wikipedia.org
>got BTFO in the Mancuria border
>already with the monumental task of conquering all of china
>planning to attack the USA
>a fucking freazing tundra
>hurr durr wha didn dey attac
This might come as a shock to you, but Japan's foreign policy was primarily concerned with advancing Japan's interests, and not advancing Germany's interests.
When facing an oil embargo, they decided to roll the dice with a war over seizing oil rich territory in what's now Indonesia rather than start another land war on top of the one they've already got in China over some frozen wasteland.
Do you really expect a logical explanation for why Hitler did dumb shit?
The Siberian petroleum sources follow (in metric tonnes - 1 metric tonne of petroleum is equivalent to 5 or 10 barrels, or 42 gallons, depending on the density)
Emba: 1,190,400,000
Perm-Kama: 3,540,000,000
Other Zones at West Urals and Volga: 471,500,000
Sakhalin: 339,800,000
Central Asia: 427,100,000
Table of Total production (for 45 oil well areas)
1901: 11,000,000
1913: 7,627,000
1920: 2,915,000
1928: 11,625,400
1932: 21,413,200
1936: 27,337,700
The most important Siberian petroleum zones are the West Siberian petroleum basin, Central Urals, Sakhalin Island, Nordvyl on the Arctic Siberian coast, and the Kamchatka peninsula. From the Caspian Sea there is one oil pipeline, which continues to the petrol camps of Emba at Orsk and ends in Omsk, in western Siberia. Sakhalin Island has the most important oil reserves in the Russian Far East. In 1936, the Ohka oil wells extracted about 470,000 tonnes; one-third were obtained for Japanese concessionaires. In the Emba River area about 466,000 tonnes were extracted from about 20 pits of a total of 300 yaciments in 1937.
They would realistically only be able to control Sakhalin and Kamchatka
>Caspian Sea
>Volga
>Perm
>Central fucking Asia
>Urals
Delusional
Still a shitload of oil
>Sakhalin Island has the most important oil reserves in the Russian Far East. In 1936, the Ohka oil wells extracted about 470,000 tonnes; one-third were obtained for Japanese concessionaires. In the Emba River area about 466,000 tonnes were extracted from about 20 pits of a total of 300 yaciments in 1937.
And this is not mentioning the huge coal deposits, zinc, iron, hydroelectricity, manganese, etc.
Frozen tundra my ass.
Sakhalin was the only one accessible to the Japanese, and as you noticed, it produced less than half a million tons a year. In comparison, the NEI was producing 65 million barrels, or about 8,666,666 tons. Sakhalin won't make Japan oil self-sufficient. Indonesia will.
Exactly. Why OP thinks that Japan would have made it if not even Germany could?...
They feared the Soviet warrior
Japan was out for itself first rather than coordinating with the other Axis powers, between the army being tied down fighting China and the Navy engaged with the US in the Pacific, Japan really had no interest in going to war with 3 military titans all at once, especially since their previous engagement with the Red Army went sour.
It was a constant fear for Japan throughout the entire war that the Soviets would invade through Manchuria, as Japan had little ability to defend it with their land army tied up in China. Japan even tried to get on Stalin's good side in an attempt to have them act as a mediator for ceasefire talks with the US in the last 2 years of the war. Once the Soviets did invade Manchuria along with the atomic bombings, the Emperor and most of the war ministers lost all hope in the war.
The vast majority of it is a frozen tundra though, and considering the occupation policies of the Japanese in the era they're going to have a lot of headaches getting any of those materials extracted in the areas where people actually live
b-but muh nukes
They kept them as allies because they had similar nationalist ideas, not because their army or anything similar. Think about Italy... Germany was allied to them because of their ideas, actually Italy didn't achieve much at WWII in comparison with Germany and Japan. I guess that explains it.
Nukes were still an influential part. Even if the Soviets couldn't touch mainland Japan, Japan would've been raped to death by the US after all the fire bombings, blockade, and Operational Downfall.
Japan acted as an autistic lone wolf and was only concerned with their own self interest. The tides turned when they speeded out and attacked Pearl Harbor. They could've just requested oil from Romania.
How is being concerned with your own interests autistic? They were pretty much Allies only in name anways, there was really no way for them to help each other.
>They could've just requested oil from Romania.
I'm sure Germany totally wouldn't have had any problems with that
>Implying Romania's oi output wasn't already being used by Germany and to a much lesser extent Italy.
>Implying it could or would be shipped, because you get to take your pick of either sending it through the Med, the British controlling either end of it, or taking your luck going all the fucking way through the Atlantic, all the way around Africa, and to Japan.
Why would they?
Because Germany needed that oil badly
>request oil from Romania
>Romania says "sure, no probs"
>"but you have to drill a hole through the center of the Earth and get it yourself from our deposits"
seriously, how do you see that oil shipped when the Black Sea, Mediterranean and Atlantic where all in Alllied control?
Japan was pants-on retarded by the 1930's and 1940's. What the fuck did they expect was going to happen when they launched a war of aggression and conquest against China? Did they honestly expect the rest of the world was going to just sit there and let them get away with it?
Even colonizing Korea and Taiwan was a mistake. Japan was better off industrializing and improving its finances to become an economic power. Its main military focus is a god-tier air force and a strong navy because they're an archipelago. They don't need an army.