In my opinion Trump is the American Trajan

Nope he's Tiberius Gracchus idiot.

Hes more of a Pompey. Good at one thing but terrible at picking advisors.

Tiberius Gracchus was literally a proto socialist.
He wanted to redistribute the memes of production to the citizen soldiers (armed memetariat) of Rome.
If anything he's the Bernie.
Also, fuck socialism.

I'd compare him more to Crassus, a rich narcissist desperate for fame and attention.

Even though this shit bait is technically on-topic it should still be a bannable offense.

Don't be silly, there are no mods here

The Anne Frank thread should tell you how much of a lawless hellscape Veeky Forums has become.

>become.

fuck off faggot dont touch my Anne Frank threads

>this is what /pol/ actually believes

Alfred McCoy, yale historian who wrote 'The Politics of Heroin' came out with a book last month called In the Shadows of the American Century: The Rise and Decline of US Global Power--in which he traces the course of American power, from its heights to its present economic deterioration, diminishing hegemonic primacy, and political turmoil and sketches a dismal portrait of the future where the American hegemony collapses entirely by the latest of 2030, replaced by a multi-polar world.

desu, the expression "losing the popular vote" doesn't make sense in a country where leaders aren't elected by popular vote.

>multi polar world
>not China and Co.
baka

He dwells on China especially as a rising power to America's declining one, but mentions also Russia, Brazil, Turkey and India as powers capable or willing of carving out their own spheres.

He's right though. In no way will China be an unparalled hegemon like the US was after WW2 unless somehow China destroy's all industrial capacity in other nations and have them forget the knowledge they learned from the Scientific revolution

No way. Chinese is a completely different monster.

The closest to China in the future is India and they are still miles behind China.

>Brazil

>Implying China will even try to world police(tm)
All they'll do is get their autismal irredentist claims and leave the world to it.

>loved by most of his people

He's Nero.

> Somewhat popular with the general population but hated by elites
> Uses religious minority from the east as scapegoat
> More interested in being the center of attention than ruling competently
> Has team of solid advisors constantly trying to prevent him from doing something crazy

No closest to China in the future is USA or EU, maybe even Russia. American hegemony post WW2 was defined by dominance, China will not dominate globally just have an abnormal amount of influence compared to it's peers.
Exactly, which means they won't dominate globally like the US did launching and toppling regimes every 5 years or so

So he'll put down the slave revolt and Pence will get credit for it?

I would have thought he's Hadrian

weren't the vespasians competent? Also, Trump has demonstrated no common sense as far as i'm concerned. He veered a little off the mandatory politic script and he was praised as a maverick and a genius despite being anything but.

>hurr durr muh walls
trump hasn't built any wall yet and appears to be recommitting to afghanistan and standing off against iran, IS and even russia. To say anything about a wall, anyway, betrays a simplistic view of the world where physical barriers on the ground no longer matter when communications and transportation no longer takes place on the ground anymore.

Sulla, for all his flaws, was a competent military commander and had a reasonable grasp of the Roman constitution and actually fashioned a decent constitutional settlement, had his enemies been willing to let it work. Trump has no grasp of law or political science.

Tiberius Gracchus actually tried to make good on his promises to redistribute land to the people and got killed for it. Like all politicians' Gracchus' motives were questionable and he may welll have been pursuing his own personal glory, but unlike Trump he laid his life on the line.

Pompey was a competent commander and did not have the braggadocio of a Trump. He was arrogant and hugely ambitious and a glory hound but he never showed it in public. He certainly did have a high opinion of himself and kept sycophants about but he almost did beat Caesar in the end.

>trump
>team of solid advisors
globalists, billionaires and wallstreet hacks aren't "solid advisors".

My vote goes to Marius because he was always seen as an outsider by the elite because his relatively lowly origins but he was a snob who aspired to be one of them. He was a populist in style and won the allegiance of the proletariat to get himself elected consul many times in a row in the face of all tradition which forbade such a move by the consul. cont.

>not Caligula because he's completely unhinged and his followers tried to attack the ocean

When push came to shove, however, Marius was an awful clumsy politician who was not good at making political friends. He had no grasp of the roman constitution and leaned heavily on his glory as a military commander (while saving the romans from the teutons and the cimbri, iirc needed Sulla to win the war for him in North Africa) to command respect rather than political cunning. Moreover, he was a "false" populist because despite his claims to be for helping the people, when his minions AkA Saturnine started getting to radical so as to risk his reputation among the Roman elite he betrayed Saturnine and had him executed mercilessly. He cared little for the Roman constitution and used his "legitimacy" from the people to force his will aka extralegally.

No Trump is going to have to much trouble securing the funds. It'll be up to his eventual successor President West to create the wall.

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No. this is another facile comparison. Crassus gained huge wealth with his cunning and ruthlessness. He didn't inherit his wealth but was a shrewd businessman. Trump is not a shrewd businessman in that trump profited off his image rather than actually created or exploited opportunities. Crassus was a genuine real estate mogul and slum lord.
Also, Crassus was no more "narcissistic" than all roman politicians in the late republic. Competition for office was huge among all of them. Crassus was also better at politics and secret dealing and amking people get along. Trump pretends to be this type of person but he is not. Crassus was also responsible for keeping the First Triumvirate together by balancing Pompey's and Caesar's interests with his own.

Wrong.
They are punishing the waters not making war on them. This is the same as Xerxes and the Bosphorus.
Xerxes, King of the Universe, King of Kings.
Trump, previous owner of Miss Universe, current Leader of the Free World.

The United States of America are the true successors to the Persian Empire.

Marius never *needed* Sulla as badly as Sulla first needed him to propel his own career in politics by basically apprenticing himself to the greatest Roman war hero up to that point in Roman history.

But Marius needed Sulla because Sulla had a good lineage and Marius, being a snob aspiring to the aristocracy, having Sulla around stroked his ego and possibly made him look favorable among those classes. Didn't he marry a daughter to Sulla or some other marriage alliance (my memory fails me here)?

comparisons like this are so reductive as to be completely worthless

Hope fully he plans his attac on Iran soonish...