Simulation

>yfw they put in that limitation to stop the infinite simulation within a simulation

Eh, what's not to say future technological advancements facilitate methods of expediting the process? And who's to say the "computer" running our simulation is at the same technological capacity as what we currently have?

More a vivid hallucination than a simulation, i think.

a simulation is a projection of reality. You could say that what you experience is a simulation of the truth of reality, but it accurately describes reality so it is not a simulation in any sense.

Memory exists physically; I haven't even opened the link but I think the paper probably says something like the matter required to create the memory required to track all matter in the universe is greater than all matter in the universe.

Which makes sense because memory exists in physical space, it's not abstract electric magic.

The highest spiritual platform is pure bhakti, pure love of God without any expectation of anything in return. By doing so, you prioritize serving God and making him happy over trying to make yourself happy. Since happiness has its source within God, by attaining such a platform you simultaneously attain happiness, It's also important to discriminate between spiritual happiness and material happiness. Material happiness comes by the result of some activity, is temporary, and ultimately unsatisfying. Spiritual happiness is permanent, blissful, and primordial.

That still doesn't answer my question. Considering this is all within theory, I'm not doubting that this would be impossible with our current technological capabilities. For US to achieve a simulation within our reality it would require a scientific breakthrough like nothing seen before, but that's not entirely impossible. If we somehow manage to survive a couple more hundred years (big if), I don't see why such a breakthrough couldn't occur.

In terms of our reality being a simulation, I think it requires thinking outside of our own box in a sense. Of course by own standards its preposterous, but we do have to take into consideration that our standards aren't really constant within the chain of simulations, so to say. For the reality's technology simulating ours, this could be a piece of cake to construct. They might even have other simulations running.

In the end you have to take it with a grain of salt, considering that this is all happening within theoretical physics, philosophy, etc.

Not buying it. My best moments are when I feel like a pilot in my own body. Like those animes. I've reached a level of contentment: where I don't have to worry about food, a bed or a long healthy shower. The funny thing about spirituality is that it's always explained in terms of hierarchy.

In terms of classical computers (what we're using right now), the ability to compress their physical space of a transistor is almost exhausted.

That paper specifically mentioned quantum computers, which work by influencing the polarity of vibrating photons (the smallest possible manipulable units which) into one of two states (like transistors).

So if they're correct, the ability of any computing technology to model a simulation this detailed doesn't theoretically exist because the memory (individual photons) required is greater than all mass in the universe.

There are problems in computer science that we know are not solvable from first principles like the the halt problem.

Infinitely abstracting additional utility from what are really mechanical objects can only be done if you don't understand what these objects are and they appear like magical devices to you.

>I've reached a level of contentment: where I don't have to worry about food, a bed or a long healthy shower.
These things are temporary, material comforts, not happiness. The nature of the material world is that comfort can be ripped away at any given moment. A successful business can turn bankrupt, a healthy body can break bones, a powerful politician can fall to scandal. None of these material possessions, positions, or comforts are permanent; that is the key. Nor is any form of pleasure derived from these things permanent. The pleasure derived is in fact so unsatisfactory that we constantly want more and more enjoyment to sustain the flow of pleasure, but that is not possible.

What I am speaking of is spiritual happiness, which you have no conception of. The closest conception to spiritual bliss is an orgasm, but even that is a grossly inaccurate description and doesn't capture the magnitude or superiority. Spiritual happiness is of a higher taste than lowly material pleasures. The situation is a turtle living a well attempting to conceptualize an ocean, it is not possible.

You're dodging me, dismissing what I said, while, in one swift breath painting a verbose point of this higher level you have attained. Hunger, sleep and water are not material comforts. I might not have conception of spiritual hapiness, but I sure do wish you would experience living in a well for sometime. I'm falling for bait aren't I?

>You're dodging me, dismissing what I said
If you're referring to:
>Not buying it. My best moments are when I feel like a pilot in my own body
I assumed you were providing an example of this in your following sentence. Otherwise I don't know exactly what you mean by this.

>of this higher level you have attained
Moksha or God-realization is not something I have attained personally at all, I'm stating that it exists and is attainable. It's very difficult to attain self realization and requires many years of practice and dedication. At the most I've seen a brief glimpse of what spiritual pleasure holds, but even that is enough to be able to tell a distinct difference between material enjoyment and spiritual happiness. Nor am I at all trying to appear above you somehow. Everyone exists on an absolute platform and is equal.

>Hunger, sleep and water are not material comforts.
Eating and sleeping are necessities, yes. An improved standard of your eating, sleeping, or drinking is not happiness, but comfort. That is what I was proposing.

Nice that you took the time to reply. Thanks. I've got to get ready for work now, against my better wishes. It's just that most people who are into spirituality seem like smug assholes. I've always looked at my fellow man as my equal, never as somebody above or below. The returns are poor, granted, but I'll continue to live like that.

So they proved our world can't be simulated, using evidence from our world? If our world were simulated I don't think you'd be able to trust information we get from that simulated world to hold true in the real world. I don't think there's any way to ever prove you aren't in a simulated world (or a dream for that matter). Any reason you have for believing it's real will only be reliable if it's coming from the real world, which is the thing you're trying to confirm in the first place, so you end up implicitly assuming you're in the real world by treating evidence you have access to as though it's reliable.

That's just what the simulation wants you to think.

It is said in the Bhagavad Gita:

"The humble sage, by virtue of true knowledge, sees with equal vision a learned and gentle brāhmaṇa, a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog-eater" (Bg 5.18)

A spiritual person does not make any distinction between species or social class. The brahmana and the outcaste may be different from the social point of view, or a dog, a cow, or an elephant may be different from the point of view of species, but these differences of body are meaningless from the viewpoint of a learned transcendentalist. The material body may differ, but in every case it is a soul that animates the body. All souls are equal.

Matthew 10:31 So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

So I take it you are a learned transcendentalist? Sometimes it's the body that animates the soul. How about this life is our holiday and in the afterlife things will be much harder. It would be a hopeful message to me because even if it means I get to suffer even harder, I still get to exist. For all the execution style porn webms i've seen on here, I'm still glad to be here. The afterlife scares me shitless and I do not long for it.

Matthew never met the chinese sparrow

underrated

>There also exists philosophical systems and religious subsects within the West that also advocate this philosophy, although it is not as widely popular like it is in the East.
Such a view would be heterodox to Christianity.

>Western thought is very materialistic, and the basis of materialistic thought assumes that material is reality. The basis of spiritualistic thought is that the spiritual is reality, and that material nature is nothing more than a shadow of the actual reality.
Dualism.

>Entanglement in the material world is the basis of all forms of suffering, and release from the material illusion means to attain permanent happiness.
That's Gnostic heresy.