Why did the ancients Greeks and Romans view small penises as more aesthetic than freakishly large clown penises...

Why did the ancients Greeks and Romans view small penises as more aesthetic than freakishly large clown penises, and why did western society start fetishising gross freakish dicks instead of the more aesthetic and masculine small penis?

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>Why did the ancients Greeks and Romans view small penises as more aesthetic than freakishly large clown penises

Because they thought blood going to your dick is blood not being used to give you intellect.

Was that ever actually established or is that just a hypothesis?

Because their sexual tastes weren't driven by women.

Because what women wanted was irrelevent

This
Big dicks are for jokes and porn.

It's this. Women probably did like big dicks, but Greeks didn't give a fuck about what they liked.
To them, women were like a necessary evil.

God created Eve to accompany Adam; the Gods made Pandora to punish Men.

Because Women realized it's much easier to manipulate betas with inferiority complex then True Alphas. Women don't give a shit what men think, as long as they can twist a jar and are hung like a horse, they're just continue to make weak men give them more power.

I believe it meant that they were in control of their sexual desires, during this time the most impressive feat of man was not his instinctual animal like sex cravings, quite the opposite, if was reason, logic, will and opposing emotions and desires.

>I believe it meant that they were in control of their sexual desires, during this time the most impressive feat of man was not his instinctual animal like sex cravings, quite the opposite, if was reason, logic, will and opposing emotions and desires.

Pretty much.

That's because Greeks and Italians had small dicks and their women craved hung barbarians.

dicklets damage control

I don't know whether it's worse that you actually consider dick size maps in any way trustworthy or that you're using the nigger argument par excellence as a way to glorify germs.

Daily reminder that Roman norma of constraint, moderstion, modesty, and restraint were thrown out the window when it came to slaves. A roman man could fuck his slaves like a rabbit, kinky style, whatevers.

>tfw no dutch bf

Yup.
I have no idea if Greek-Roman women preferred either, but this would be irrelevant for Greek-Roman men.

A man who cared about pleasing the kind of woman who cares about dick size would be considered pretty damn unmanly.

He had the permission, but a Roman man who had too much sex with his slaves (or even with his wife) would not be viewed with good eyes.

>thrown out the window when it came to slaves
That's not actually true. Sure, they could do whatever the fuck they wanted without legal repercussions, but it still had social repercussions.
I mean sure, nobody is gonna give much of a shit if you occasionally fuck your slaves (it's not strictly speaking good behaviour, like fucking on the first date, but everyone does it anyway), but if you're always with your dick and fingers up pussies and arses people are still gonna call you out for it.
And yeah, you could fuck a slave in any way you wanted, but any peculiar fetish would be commented upon, and you better not be hoping that your slaves are gonna keep their mouth shut, because they aren't.
Also you better not think you could just torture and murder you slaves nilly-willy. Cicero actually describes the case of a guy who did exactly that, and while he won the trial, he still got stoned and basically exiled by the people.
And also again, this is all about men fucking slaves. Women fucking slaves happened, but was absolutely not acceptable. Men being fucked by their slaves also happened, and of course that was social death too.

They wanted that their work was viewed as art and not as pornographic material. that's why they made the penises so little, so you would focus an the actual artwork and not on the penises. they were afraid, that too many people would only look at the penises, if they were normal sized

>kinky style, whatevers

Roman law forbid to degrade or mutilat a slave, sex was allowed tho

Holy shit polan stronk

The Greeks preferred penises to be just large enough to tickle their prostates, and no larger

Why does the "big Italian dick" stereotype exist when they're literally dicklets?

Romans stressed moderation in sex, at least during Caesar's time. When Caesar got bumfucked by that king, he was made fun of which makes sense, but then he started fucking lots of women, which also made him get made fun of as well. Fucking around and having a big dick meant that you couldn't control your urges and so you were more of a beast then a man.

15.41 is 6 inches, literally the average.

ITT: dicklets

proof that blacks are superior

Why are they all circumiced?
What is wrong with Germany?

This is the gayest chart I've ever seen.

t.. bulgar

>Lebanon
Hefty Phoenician Phalli

preference for big dicks is a male thing

in female erotica the size of their penis is almost never mentioned

>portugal

>What is wrong with Germany?
They have the perfect penis.

lmao

>All the snownigger dicklets ITT
Sad!

the penis was small because they wanted people to focus on the beauty of the body.

They had statues with absurdly large penises but these were satyrs mainly

related question: what is the the appeal to a women in creating homoerotica between a socially awkward skinny boy and strong father figure type?

I have an image made for this exact question

tfw azn with an 18cm dick

They want to see an alpha be alpha

We've sunk to dick size infographics posting based on country
Reported

All of Veeky Forums is dickwaving and re-visioning history to meet your worldview.

>ITT:
dick rating Veeky Forums style

made up shit. italians are literally dicklets.

I hope people don't actually believe in these charts

All these charts show is which country has the biggest liars.

>small penises
they're just flaccid...

Are there any historial dick size maps? or even just documents?

But the penis is part of the artisanship too...

t. someone who's doesn't know faggots.
youtube.com/watch?v=h-IXx4tkTF0

Even tho you can't judge erect size by looking at flaccid, the dicks on Greek statues are still pretty tiny

Average flaccid dick is between 10 and 13cm, but these statues look like 5cm

who today resembles the ancient greeks and romans today? lots of people, white nationalists especially, say they looked germanic/scandi while others claim that they were much darker.

who to believe?

no it isnt. It was seen as a sex symbol. why do you think female statues did not show their vaginas. Too sexual

Greeks had statues with absurdly large penises like i said. But this was to make fun of people who cant control their sexual urges.

well look at roman busts. They look like your typical italian mafiosi.

also in greece, all celebrities have an ancient greek look.

really? got any source/literature on that? not that i don't trust you. i just wouldn't mind reading more into this.

>well look at roman busts. They look like your typical italian mafiosi.
No, they don't.

so not the types of (white?) people the white nationalists try and push them to be?

Genetic studies link modern Italians to ancient Romans.

shit i really dont remember. here is a picture of a satyr. Mythical creatures known for their hedonistic behavior

ofcourse. Greeks and romans distinguished themselves from the northern blond haired barbarians. Why else would they frequently say that they were blonde and blue eyed, if it wasnt a rarity among them.

i knew to never trust them or /pol/ on this. thanks.

yeah nordics talk a lot of shit. They have a fascinating culture and the barbarians are unfairly portrayed as stupid country bumbkins.
However greeks and romans were mostly brown haired and brown eyed.
Perhaps 10-20% was blonde like they say

Interestingly many greek boys, have a sort of blondish hair when they are young and it gets darker after a certain age.

>people that lived in italy 2000 years ago left genetic impact that lasts to this day
WHOA, who fucking knew.

Do you watch football?
Take a look at Marchisio, Bonucci, De Rossi or Totti. Marchisio looks like Marcus Aurelius.

>Average flaccid dick is between 10 and 13 cm
I doubt this, source?

>m'logic

okay which one of these are you supposed to trust?

>Average flaccid dick is between 10 and 13cm

bullshit lol

The one than doesn't use self reported states.
It happens a lot in the med desu, I was blonde as a kid, after the fifth year or so of my life, it was all brown.

>The one than doesn't use self reported states.
the first one has the smallest measurements so i
m guessing that one is the closest to reality

This is the real one.

do they bone press?

yes, most guys are fat so good chunk of their dick is hidden behind fat.

well damn thanks for the info. this made me realize i'm not small but actually average

They want to project themselves into the "weak" one.

>Caring so much about dick
Faggot.

What THE FUCK are you talking about.

kek

Reminder all these charts are self reported and do nothing but display the countries with the largest number of liars, unless you queers are leading me to believe there were some scientists who went around gathering hundreds of men in every country as samples and measuring all of their cocks to find the mean.

erect cocks I should add, you stupid faggots

Not to defend the nordicucks but blonde hair was pretty prized in the Greco-Roman world. Blonde hair was a minority natural trait but hair dyeing to blonde was pretty common; especially amongst the elite. Pic related is a rare natural blonde greek

Ancient Greeks looked like Modern Greeks.
Ancient Romans looked like Modern Italians.

Don't believe the nordicucks

here's another one

What's the appeal of 'lesbian' porn?