Were Palestinians ever an actual historical entity before the 20th century?

Dumbest logic ever
You could make same ''they're all Europeans / Asians / Indians anyway'' by that over simplification

No. A British dude drawing a line 100 years ago decided who a Palestinian is today. Originally Northern Israel was gonna be in Lebanon, and all those "Palestinians" would have been Lebanese. Colonial identities.

(cont.)
The claim that the Roman emperor Hadrian, eager to punish Jewish inhabitants of Judea after the Bar Kokhba Revolt, officially changed the name of the region to “Syria Palaestina” or simply “Palestine” in 135 CE and forced the Jewish community into exile is dubious at best, especially when, by then, the terms “Syrian Palestine” and “Palestine” had already been in use for over 600 years.

Everyone knows Palestine was a region, that proves absolutely nothing about what OP is asking. The facts are, the people who call themselves Palestinians just lived in Ottoman Syria. They never identified as Palestinians, there is no discernible difference between a Jordanian and a Palestinian. They are both Arab peoples who trace their roots to various Arab clans who immigrated into the Levant.

>this is your mind on Palestinian revisionism

The Bar Kochba revolt was the one that really fucked the Jews, so the idea that it wasn't the one to push them into exile is a straight up lie. Hadrian is the most hated man in Jewish history for a reason. Also, your argument is still weak considering 135 AD was the first time Palestine was ever officially used, before that it was Judea, or Yehud under Persia, etc. The lie was that the Jews were sent into exile in 70 AD, that never happened. It was the 135 AD revolt which really ruined Jewish culture in Judea.

>mfw Ashkenazi Jews cluster with Lebanese Christians, Israeli Druze, Sephardi Jews
>mfw Palestinians cluster with Arab Bedouins, Jordanians, Saudis
The fact that anyone falls for the "Palestinians are indigenous meme" is beyond me. This study was done at a fucking Lebanese university, they have no interest in confirming Zionist narratives.

Source: journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1003316

"...Second, (regarding) Israel. Israel does not cease to issue direct threats against Lebanon, (promising) to destroy it all in a next war. There is always someone there who stands up and says, "In the next war, we will not let but ruins behind us, and we will return Lebanon 100 or 200 years ago."

Before the [Israeli military manoeuvres] Northern Front [in September 2017, the largest in 20 years] and thereafter, while Israel continues its offensive in Syria, claiming to prevent further arms reaching the Resistance (Hezbollah), continues its violations in Lebanese [airspace] in various ways, and works to push the region to war under any pretext.” - Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah

youtube.com/watch?v=8EUBAmHnFt0

(cont.)
"Today, on the tenth day [of Muharram, commemorating the martyrdom of Imam Hussein], I want to send a clear message to Israelis and Jews in occupied Palestine and (anywhere) in the world. I tell them this: From the beginning, we in the Resistance, have declared that our struggle was against the occupying Zionist aggressors on the land of Palestine and our Arab land, not against Jews as followers of a heavenly religion (recognized by Islam) or as a people of the Book [Torah]. It is the Zionist movement that exploited Judaism and Jews to carry a colonialist occupation project in Palestine and the region, serving the British a hundred years ago, and later at the service of US policies. The Jews who were brought from all over the world must know that they are only cannon fodder in a British-Western colonialist war against the Arab and Islamic peoples in this region. And today they are the fuel for projects and US policies that target people of the region. And when our peoples defend their lives, their land and honor in the face of Zionist gangs, they are unjustly accused of anti-Semitism. This accusation is found in every corner of the world. Today I say to Jewish scholars, their eminent personalities, their thinkers: Those who brought you from all over the world to Palestine for their own interests are ultimately working to your destruction. You must know it, because it is written in your religious books. The current Israeli government led by Netanyahu is leading your people to annihilation and destruction. For he makes only plans for war, and only searches war. He has worked in the past to prevent the signing of the nuclear deal with Iran, and he failed. He is currently working with Trump to tear this agreement and to push the region to a new war." - Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah

youtube.com/watch?v=8EUBAmHnFt0

Yeah, and Jews have the whole West. They should go to Israel.

(cont.)
"If Trump and Netanyahu push the region to a new war, this will be at your expense [Israelis], and it is you who will pay a very high price for the stupid policies of the head of your government. And Netanyahu is also pushing the region towards war against Lebanon, Syria, Gaza and the movements of the Resistance, under misleading titles and defensive excuses, a preventive war as he claims. And here, I hope all Israelis will listen carefully to what I say: Netanyahu, his government and military officials did not correctly evaluate the magnitude this war will reach if they succeed to light its fires. What will be its extent, what will be its territory, who will participate on it, who will enter it…Netanyahu, his government and military officials do not know how this war will end if they begin. And I also confirm that they do not have an accurate picture of what awaits them if they undertake such a stupid act as this war. They have no clarity (vision), nor accurate assessment, nor just image. If they kindle the fire of the coming war, (they have no idea) how far it will reach, how extended will be her embrace, and who will participate. That’s why now I call first all Jews except the Zionists to detach their considerations from Zionist calculations who lead themselves to their final destruction. And I call on all those who came in occupied Palestine believing the promises that they would find the land of milk and honey to leave. I call them to leave Palestine and go back to the countries from which they came so that they don’t become mere fuel in any war where would lead them the stupid Netanyahu government. For if Netanyahu launched a war in this region, there may be no more time for them to leave Palestine, and there will be no safe place for them in occupied Palestine.” - Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah

youtube.com/watch?v=8EUBAmHnFt0

(cont.)
"The enemy government must know that times have changed, as he must know that those with whom he hopes an alliance will be a burden for them because they need to be to defended themselves (and thus can not help anyone).

And the scale of the massacres committed by Israel against the Palestinian people and the peoples of the region, its partnership with Daesh and its open complicity in the project of partition of our region through its open and eager support to the secession of Kurdistan, all this will push the people of the region to render a capital verdict against them.

I conclude by saying to the Israelis, the Israeli people base of this usurper entity: you know that what your political and military leaders say about Israel's ability to win a victory in any future war is largely composed of lies and illusions. What has been told you is largely made up of lies and illusions.

And you know the extent of the flaws and loopholes that exist (in your army and society). And that's why you must not allow stupid and arrogant leaders to lead you into an adventure in which there will be perhaps the end of all things and all that entity…” - Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah

youtube.com/watch?v=8EUBAmHnFt0

>stormweenies supporting muzzie terrorists

color me surprised

National identity isn't a thing set in stone. Even if no one self-identified as a "Palestinian" a hundred years ago, millions of people do so now, and we should take them at their word for it.
Ironically the formation of Israel was a major contributing factor to the creation of Palestinian nationhood.

On criticism of Israel

By Stephen Gowans

"A standard accusation made by Israel's boosters is that criticism of Tel Aviv's policies is motivated by anti-Semitism. And while it is said fervently that the accusation is not intended to deter criticism, it plainly is. Indeed, so sweeping is the statement, and so patently political in intent, it's surprising that those who make it keep getting away with it.

It should be obvious that a statement of the type "all criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic" is highly unlikely to be true, for this would imply that anyone who criticizes Israeli policy hates Jews. It's difficult to imagine how this could be so, for it prohibits the very real possibility that at least some criticism of Israel (if not more than that) may be motivated by other concerns.

To be sure, it's possible to establish a definitional equivalence between criticism of Israel and anti-Semitism, so that anti-Israeli criticism becomes an instance of anti-Semitism, by definition. But this is making words mean whatever you want them to mean, simply to suit whatever purpose you have at a given moment. Drawing the equivalence enlarges the meaning of the word "anti-Semitism" from a negative emotional orientation toward Jews (which is how the word is usually understood) to include, on top of the everyday meaning, a negative political analysis of a country's policies -- hardly what anti-Semitism is understood to be, although it would have to be admitted that the equivalence is a convention to be fervently wished for by anyone seeking to mute Israel's critics.

As an empirical matter, criticism of Israel could be a manifestation of anti-Semitism, in the emotional sense; that is, those who hate Jews may be inclined to criticize Israeli policies."

(cont.)
"But this hardly implies that all criticism of the policies pursued by Tel Aviv masks, or is impelled by, a negative emotional orientation toward Jews as a whole, anymore than it can be said that since anti-capitalists are inclined to criticize Washington's policies, anyone who criticizes Washington must be anti-capitalist. This is a common enough logical error, but an error all the same.

Instead, it should be said that, yes, some criticism of Israel is motivated by hatred of Jews, but equally some criticism of Israel is not. David Duke, a white supremacist with ties to the Ku Klux Klan, is a fierce critic of Israel. It can probably be said with a fair degree of certainty that Duke criticizes Israel because he hates Jews, but there are three things that should be said about this:

1. Duke's anti-Semitism can be inferred from far more than his criticism of Israel. True anti-Semites are likely to have a long history of behavior, outside of overt criticism of Israeli policies, that points to an anti-Jewish orientation.

2. Duke's motivation for criticizing Tel Aviv's policies doesn't, by itself, invalidate his criticisms. His criticisms must be refuted, or accepted, on their merits. (If someone who hated Germans condemned the Nazis for the Holocaust, would his condemnation be invalid?)

3. Duke, like many pro-Israelis, draws the same invalid equivalence between Israel and "the Jews", where many critics of Israel do not. Indeed, if you wanted to sort anti-Semitic from non-anti-Semitic critics of Israel, you might ask, Does he or she regard Israel and the Jews as equal?

Let's take each point in turn. While it's often alleged that much, or all, criticism of Israel that comes from the political left is motivated by hatred of Jews, it's more likely to be true that much criticism of Israel that is anti-Semitic comes from the political right." - Stephen Gowans

(cont.)
"The political left, being more vociferous and compelling in its criticism of Israel, and perhaps more sensitive to charges of racism, is singled out for this smear; the political right, however, is largely ignored. And yet it is among the right-wing followers of David Duke, and to some extent Pat Buchanan, that the telltales signs of anti-Semitism are everywhere in evidence. It is here that you'll find the belief that Israel, or "the Jews", run Washington, that the war on Iraq is not about oil, and has no connection to imperialist designs, but has been ordered by Tel Aviv because, it's said, Jews run the world, or are conspiring to do so. It is here, too, that much is made of the names of the people who surround President George W. Bush: Perle, Fleischer, Wolfowitz.

These arguments are easily dismissed. True, they are almost certainly anti-Semitic in origin, but they're readily refuted otherwise. Criticism from the political left, on the other hand, almost invariably concerns Israeli violations of international and humanitarian law, the inefficacy of the crackdown on the Intifida in protecting Israel's citizens from terrorist attacks, the reasons for the Intifada, and the role Washington plays in facilitating Israel's transgressions. These are far more difficult to deal with than, say, the political right argument that the United States is run by Tel Aviv, which is probably why it is the left, not the right, that's singled out for attention.

Still, while anti-Semitism may be the basis for some criticism (particularly from the right), it's long been a foundation of Western thought that arguments must be addressed on their merits, and not by reference to the personal qualities of those who put forward the arguments." - Stephen Gowans

(cont.)
"This, however, is rarely observed in practice, the attractions of ad hominem argument being too arresting, and, sadly, all too often highly persuasive, even among supposedly intelligent and well-educated people.

As an almost invariable rule, those too lazy to address an argument on its merits, or who haven't a reply, will dismiss the bearer of the argument as a way of dismissing the argument itself. (This has an obverse: accepting someone's argument, without consideration of the argument itself, on the basis of the person's credentials alone.) Almost everyone does it. Who hasn't dismissed a troubling argument, with "I once saw him reading a Lyndon Larouche publication; that guy's a nutbar," or "I wouldn't listen to anything she has to say; she belongs to a bizarre, neo-Stalinist, sect," or "Isn't he one of those conspiracy theory kooks?" which has its complement: "Isn't he one of those conspiracy theory demolishers in thrall to the conspirators?" How tempting to dismiss the political left's criticism of Israel's violation of humanitarian law, for example, than to make the charge that the political left is rife with conscious and unconscious anti-Semites.

Many people, no less on the political left than in the mainstream, and perhaps more so on the political left, are wont to twist themselves into knots, making endless compromises and holding their tongues to avoid that terrible fate: having one's credibility questioned. Many, especially moderate leftists, are already sensitive to being seen as kooks, and are eager to show that unlike all those others, they are not so firmly ensconced on the margins of polite society that they've relinquished all credibility. Championing an unpopular cause or defending someone unfairly, but effectively, demonized, is not for them. Their credibility must be safeguarded at all cost. There are a thousand selfless reasons why this must be so." - Stephen Gowans

(cont.)

"An article I wrote on how liberals were using ad hominem arguments to dismiss far-left groups that were organizing antiwar rallies, titled "The ad hominem distractions of America's liberals," was dismissed by one liberal on the grounds that I was "loony." This, he said, was proved by an article I had written being posted on a conspiracy theory portal "below one authored by Michael Rupert," the ex-LAPD cop who says Washington was complicit in 9/11. This, I presume, was to suggest I had a conspiracy theory to peddle (which I don't.) The article in question examined the weakness of all accounts of what happened on 9/11, including the official accounts; it could hardly be said to be the articulation of a conspiracy theory. Nevertheless, my name was next to Rupert's, so I must, it was intimated, be part of "that crowd." I had also, and this was to be my second undoing, signed a petition expressing concerns about the fairness of the trial of former Yugoslav leader Slobodan Milosevic. This made me "an apologist for a thug." I was being dismissed for, what was to be taken to be, promoting a conspiracy theory and for supporting ethnic cleansing and genocide (for Milosevic's name is now emblematic of ethnic cleansing.) I had done neither, but if I had, would that be sufficient grounds to dismiss the argument I had made about ad hominem distractions? By convention of Western thought it wouldn't have, but I'm not so naive as to suppose it hasn't. Still, the irony is amusing. An article on liberals using ad hominem arguments dismissed by a liberal using an ad hominem argument. Who needs satire?

I once had a long, and frustrating correspondence with a man who said that left critics of Israel are anti-Jewish. What proved most frustrating was his habit of systematically rewriting "Israel" to read "the Jews." So, when I would write "Israel" has done such and so, he would reply, "You say that 'the Jews' did such and so." - Stephen Gowans

(cont.)
"Rather than asking me if I thought Israel had a right to defend itself he would ask whether I thought "the Jews" have the right to defend themselves, and so on.

There is, of course, no reasonable grounds on which to draw an equivalence between Israel and the Jews; hence, my frustration. For starters, as my correspondent was fond of pointing out, Israel isn't a monoethnic state, so it could hardly be said to be purely Jewish. But even if it could, the equivalence still couldn't be made. And that's because all, even most, Jews, aren't Israeli. Therefore, Israel and the Jews can no more be said to be equivalent, than Lake Ontario and the United States can be said to be equivalent. Lake Ontario is only a part of the United States, and moreover, is also part of Canada.

Anti-Semitic critics of Israel, however, accept the equivalence. They are as comfortable as pro-Israelis in talking about Israel as "the Jews," and so condemn "the Jews" (not Israel) for their (not its) treatment of Palestinians. They talk of "the Jews" violating international law, that is when their attention isn't stuck on Tel Aviv running Washington. They would, I suspect, accept without reservation the inextricable linkages some Israeli apologists say exist between Israel and the Jews, Zionism and Judaism.

And yet, aren't these sweeping and invalid generalizations not the cognitive basis of racism? To say all Americans are violent warmongers is a silly prejudice born of equating the policies of America's power elite with everyone who claims American citizenship. How is this different from saying "all blacks are lazy" or "all Jews are crooked, sly and money-hungry," or "all Palestinians are terrorists"? Or "the Jews" equal "Israel" and "all Jews are Zionists"? " - Stephen Gowans

The Palestinian identity is new but they've lived on that land for a while

But Palestinians were largely moved to Jordania? They made up nearly half the country's population in the 60s.

(cont.)
"To be sure, Zionists would very much like Zionism and Judaism to be seen as inextricably bound, for the same reason America's pro-capitalists would very much like capitalism and America to be seen as inextricably bound. (This non-capitalist country or that must be opposed because it is against everything America stands for, says George W. Bush, which is a way of proclaiming an official American ideology -- capitalism. If you oppose capitalism, you oppose the United States, and must be treated accordingly.) This says, first, that an ideology has the weight of a people behind it, and second, that criticism of the ideology amounts to criticism of the equivalent people.

But it doesn't take long to see that the statement "criticism of Israel is motivated by anti-Semitism" is devoid of any practical meaning. Surely, it must be replied, "You don't mean all criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic?", to which those who make this argument, quickly concede that it does not. Accordingly, all sides agree that some criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic, and some isn't, which is tantamount to saying some days it rains and some days it doesn't. The argument is really no different than this:

Mr. A: "It never rains."

Mr. B. "Surely, you don't mean there are not some days when it does rain.

Mr. A: No, of course not, you're right. I don't mean to say that at all.

Mr. B. So some days it doesn't rain, and some days it does?

Mr. A. Yes, I guess you're right.

Mr. B. So, why should I throw away my umbrella, for that's what your first statement implied, did it not?

And that's what Israel's defenders want us to do: throw away our umbrellas on the basis of a patently false statement." - Stephen Gowans

Wonder (((who))) is behind this post.

"...let’s turn our attention to the subject of Zionism, which will undoubtedly draw the usual amount of hate mail from those who like to cry “anti-semitism.” You know who you are. You’re the ones who equate any attack on the policies of the Zionist government of Israel with an attack on the religion of Judaism.
But guess what? You’re all full of shit. The truth is that there is an enormous difference between Zionism and Judaism. Judaism is a religion, whereas Zionism is essentially a form of fascism. I have no problem with the practice of any religion. But I do have a big problem with the practice of overt fascism, particularly when the perpetrators of that practice cast themselves as the victims of persecution so as to cut off any meaningful debate on the real issues.
And believe it or not, so do a good many people of the Jewish faith. But you don’t have to take my word for it.
Here is a website hosted by Jews United Against Zionism: netureikarta.org/
Here’s a book entitled Zionism In the Age of the Dictators: A Reappraisal: codoh.com/zionweb/zizad/zizad.html
And here is another entitled The Hidden History of Zionism: balkanunity.org/mideast/english/zionism/
And yet another entitled The History of the Palestine-Israel Conflict:cactus48.com/truth.html
And here is a page with links to a number of Jewish anti-Zionist websites: inin.net/jewnotzionist.htm " - Dave McGowan

>Sudan
>majority Arab
Bullfucking shit

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bamp for mediterranean real estate

zionist jews are the enemy of all nations and should be uprooted

" We know very well that the Jewish and Zionist communities are not the same. We are against the Zionists and our opposition with them is because they are against religions all together. They are not Jewish. They're political people, who commit actions in the name of Judaism. Jewish people have also grown to resent them. In fact, all humans should resent their actions." - Imam Khomeini

youtube.com/watch?v=iCMwoI-Rljo

Fuck Palestine and Israel.

Kingdom of Jerusalem forever

THOSE ARE NOT JEWS IN YOUR PHOTO , THEY ARE HASIDS . HASIDISM IS A SEPARATE RELIGION ENTIRELY . THEY HATE THE JEWISH PEOPLE , THEY SHOULD BE TRIED IN A HALACHIC COURT AND SENTENCED TO DEATH . THEY WEAR EASTERN EUROPEAN CLOTHING AND CLAIM IT'S BIBLICAL , IT'S BLASPHEMY . THEY RUINED THE AESTHETIC OF THE HEBREW NATION .

Israel and Palestine were both founded in the same year morans.

It literally couldn't matter less that Palestinians are distinct from Syrians or Jordanians (they aren't particularly). The name refers to the fact that they're from a certain place and it's their natural right to not be uprooted from that place

They are Jews. They follow the Torah and observe the Sabbath. Zionists are not Jews. Zionists are anti-religious World Order colonialists.

>mfw there is literal Hezbollah on Veeky Forums

>stormfags want jews to leave their countries
>but also don't want them to have their own state
>but also claim to not want to genocide them
you have to pick one. I think I know what it is.

Acknowledging that would dash chances of a do over.

>"Occupied Palestine"
>Not "the terrorist group calling itself the 'Jewish State'"

>zionists are not jews
>literally doing as tehir holy texts and God tells them
I bet you're some christian dog that two-fecedly changes his religious stance when confronted with moral outcrys

Well yeah, they're Arabs who live in Palestine. They're Palestinians.

JUDAISM AND ZIONISM ARE NOT THE SAME THING
"We would like to take a few minutes of your time to prevent you from making a terrible mistake that may have disastrous results for many.

You have always without a doubt heard and read much about the political crises in the Middle East in which the State of Israel plays a central role. This is, in fact, an ongoing series of crises with potential to bring the greatest misfortune on the entire world. Tragically many believe that Zionism and Judaism are identical. Thus they conclude that the entire Jewish people is responsible for the actions of the Zionist government and the world crises which emanates from it. This is a Grave Error!

The truth is that the Jewish faith and Zionism are two very different philosophies. They are as opposite as day and night. The Jewish people have existed for thousands of years. In their two thousand years of Divinely decreed exile no Jew ever sought to end this exile and establish independent political sovereignty anywhere. The people's sole purpose was the study and fulfillment of the Divine commandments of the Torah.

The Zionist movement created the Israeli state. The latter is a persuasion less than one hundred years old. Its essential goal was and is to change the nature of the Jewish people from that of a religious entity to a political movement. From Zionism's inception the spiritual leaders of the Jewish people stood in staunch opposition to it.

To this day Torah Jewry remains forever loyal to its faith. Zionists want the world to believe that they are the representatives of the entire Jewish people. This is false! The Jewish people never chose them as their leaders."

nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/judaism_isnot_zionism.cfm

...
"The Zionists have deceived many well meaning Jewish people via terror, trickery and false propaganda. They have at their disposal the use of a nearly universally subservient media. Whoever attempts to criticize them puts his livelihood and, at times, his very life in danger.

However, despite the media blackout and easy resort to terror the simple truth remains unrefuted and irrefutable: ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH FAITH AND TORAH LAW THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE FORBIDDEN TO HAVE THEIR OWN STATE WHILE AWAITING THE MESSIANIC ERA!

The Creator gave us the Holy Land thousands of years ago. Yet, when we sinned, He took it away and sent us into exile. Since that time our task is to wait for Him to send the Messiah. At that time, the Creator alone, without any human being lifting a hand or saying a word, will bring us together and take us out of exile. He will likewise establish universal peace among all mankind and all will serve Him in good will.

Some religious Jews, confused by Zionist propaganda quote Biblical verses that state that G-d gave the children of Israel the Holy Land. They overlook, unfortunately, those verses which say that He took it away due to our sins. They further ignore those prophecies which explicitly describe the last exile's conclusion as a Divine, not a human process.

The Creator has commanded every Jew to follow the ways of peace and to be loyal to the country where he lives.

Torah true Jewry waits patiently for the Messianic redemption. They have nothing to do with any kind of pseudo "Jewish State" and its aggressions against other peoples. They have a deep sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians who have suffered the most from Zionism's false teachings and barbaric actions. The Zionist state is not a Jewish state. The Zionists alone are the only ones responsible for their actions. Authentic Jewry has and will continue to oppose the very existence of this blasphemous state.

May all mankind witness the true redemption."

JUDAISM VERSUS ZIONISM

"Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah. It affirms Divine Providence and, accordingly, views Jewish exile as a punishment for sin. Redemption may be achieved solely through prayer and penance. Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens.

Zionism rejects the Creator, His Revelation and reward and punishment. Among its fruits are the persecution of the Palestinian people and the spiritual and physical endangering of the Jewish people. It encourages treasonous, dual loyalty among unsuspecting Jews throughout the world. At its root Zionism sees reality as barren and desacralized. It is the antithesis of Torah Judaism."

nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/judaism_v_zionism.cfm

youtube.com/watch?v=p2mTgq-jw8M

The God of the Jews supports the return of The Jews so its a part of judaism

The torah has almost nothing to do with judaism is just the designs and explanations of the messiah's return as The Sword

>The torah has almost nothing to do with judaism
"Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens."
nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/judaism_v_zionism.cfm

HASIDISM IS A 19TH CENTURY SECT CREATED IN EASTERN EUROPE , THERE IS NOTHING JEWISH ABOUT THEM OR THEIR BELIEFS .

HAVE YOU READ THE TORAH ? JUDAISM IS VERY SIMPLE . THE JEWISH PEOPLE LIVE UP THE COVENANT G-D MADE WITH OUR ANCESTORS , IN RETURN , HE WILL ALLOW US TO DEFEAT OUR ENEMIES . IF WE LISTEN TO G-D , HE WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE OUR LAND BACK . NO ONE SAID HE WAS GONNA GIVE IT TO US , THE FACT THAT WE WON IN 1948 & 1967 IS PROOF THAT IT IS OURS . THERE IS NO COINCIDENCES IN JUDAISM , IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IT'S BECAUSE G-D ORDAINED IT TO HAPPEN . THE LAND OF ISRAEL BELONGS TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE , WE HAVE BOTH AN ANCESTRAL & DIVINE CONNECTION TO THE LAND . OUR LANGUAGE AND CULTURE STEMS FROM THIS LAND . THESE ISHMAELITE STRANGERS CAN CLAIM OUR LAND ALL THEY WANT , G-D WILL CURSE THEM FOR IT . I FIND IT AMUSING THAT ISHMAELITES HAVE CITED THEIR SUCCESSFUL ARAB COLONIZATION OF THE MIDDLE EAST AS PROOF THAT G-D IS ON THEIR SIDE . NOW THAT THE TIDE HAS TURNED , AND THE DHIMMI HAVE RISEN BENEATH ISHMAEL , THE SAME LOGIC ISN'T APPLIED . IF G-D WAS ON THE SIDE OF ISHMAEL IN THE 7TH CENTURY , THEN HE IS ON THE SIDE OF ISRAEL TODAY .

>The God of the Jews supports the return of The Jews so its a part of judaism

"ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH FAITH AND TORAH LAW THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE FORBIDDEN TO HAVE THEIR OWN STATE WHILE AWAITING THE MESSIANIC ERA!

The Creator gave us the Holy Land thousands of years ago. Yet, when we sinned, He took it away and sent us into exile. Since that time our task is to wait for Him to send the Messiah. At that time, the Creator alone, without any human being lifting a hand or saying a word, will bring us together and take us out of exile. He will likewise establish universal peace among all mankind and all will serve Him in good will.

Some religious Jews, confused by Zionist propaganda quote Biblical verses that state that G-d gave the children of Israel the Holy Land. They overlook, unfortunately, those verses which say that He took it away due to our sins. They further ignore those prophecies which explicitly describe the last exile's conclusion as a Divine, not a human process."

nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/judaism_isnot_zionism.cfm

youtube.com/watch?v=vA7yz2vciGk

HASIDISM IS NOT JUDAISM . IT'S AN ASHKENAZIC SUBVERSION OF THE FAITH . RETURNING TO ZION HAS BEEN A FUNDAMENTAL PART OF JEWISH LIFE SINCE ANTIQUITY .

ZIONISM IS NOT JUDAISM. IT'S A WESTERN COLONIALIST WORLD-ORDER SUBVERSION OF THE FAITH. THE COMMANDMENT TO BE PATRIOTIC CITIZENS (INCLUDING PATRIOTIC CITIZENS OF PALESTINE DEFENDING PALESTINE AGAINST THE USA/BRITISH WESTERN COLONIALIST WORLD-ORDER ZIONIST PLOT) HAS BEEN A FUNDAMENTAL PART OF JEWISH LIFE SINCE ANTIQUITY.

PALESTINE WAS A LAND WHERE MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANS AND JEWS LIVED TOGETHER IN HARMONY FOR CENTURIES BEFORE ZIONISM.

NOT ARABS THE PROBLEM

NOT JEWS THE PROBLEM

NOT JUDAISM

NOT MUSLIM

ONLY ZIONISM.

youtube.com/watch?v=p2mTgq-jw8M

Abu Huraira reported that Prophet Mohammad صلى الله عليه وسلم said, "By the one whose hands my life is in, surely the Son of Mary عليه السلام will descend amongst you as a just ruler. He will destroy the cross (this could mean that Jesus will put a final end to Christianity), kill the pig (meaning Jesus will outlaw raising pigs) and abolish the Jizya (this tax on Christians & Jews will be abolished because Christianity and Judaism will end.)." (Sahih Bukhari)

>PALESTINE WAS A LAND WHERE MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANS AND JEWS LIVED TOGETHER IN HARMONY FOR CENTURIES BEFORE ZIONISM.

NOT TRUE . PALESTINIANS RAPED , KILLED AND MAIMED INDIGENOUS JEWS IN THE 1920'S EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ANTI ZIONISTS . THEY WOULD LYNCH JEWS FOR ABHORRING THE DISGUSTING ISHMAELITE LAW . JEWS WERE BANNED FROM PRAYING AT OUR FIRST AND SECOND HOLIEST SITES . IMAGINE IF MUSLIMS WERE BANNED FROM BOTH MECCA & MEDINA . JEWS COULDN'T PRAY ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT OR IN THE CAVE OF PATRIARCHS . EVEN THOUGH IT ONLY BECAME RELEVANT TO THE 7TH CENTURY ISHMAELITE IMMIGRANTS BECAUSE OF US .