Why leftists have a hard time admitting the roots of marxism is pure judaism? Even if Karl Marx wasn't a jew the fact is 85%+ of early communists were jews, at least 70% of the Communist Party of Russia were jewish, etc.
If communists don't believe in racism why they simply don't admit jews created and promoted communism more than anyone else?
too much fluoride in the water
>85%+ of early communists were jews, at least 70% of the Communist Party of Russia were jewish, etc.
[citation needed]
Jews were 16.6% of the USSR's population in 1924?
LOL the mental gymnastics to qualify communism as 'jewish'
Why were Jewish Russians disproportionately represented in the Bolshevik ranks?
>First Central Committee of the USSR
Actually the first Central Committee happened in 1919 not in 1924
You picked up 1924 because at that time the entire world knew about Jewish Bolshevism and it was only in 1924 Stalin wanted to exclude some jews from the party.
only in the nkvd. Because no one else could do their jobs.
because majority of russians were still fucking educated serfs whilst jews promote literacy from a young age (to study the torah) thus allow themselves a chance to climbing intellectual ranks
'Disproportionately represented' doesn't mean shit when they're still 1/6 of the actual numbers. What you're saying is
>jews are a minority in communism thus communism is jewish
Why do Nazi's have a hard time admitting the roots of Nazism is pure judaism? Even if Adolf Hitler wasn't a Jew the fact is the main intellectual behind Nazism was a Jew (Alfred ROSENBERG).
Because the theory is no way related to judaism. It's as retarded as talking about jewish physics, which of course nazis did because they were a bunch of autists who couldn't think of anything without sperging about race. Your conclusion simply doesn't follow your premises. But your premises are also wrong, see . On the other hand, I could make the same argument with kurds in the middle east or natives in latin america, which would of course be as absurd.
That Central Committee elected in 1919 and finished in 1920 don't represent the actual Central Committee but only the Central Committee elected by the congress.
For some reason you are trying to show to the people the Central Committee (executive) and the Central Committee (elected by the congress) are the same thing.
>educated serfs
fpbp
The retard in this thread don't even know a basic fact
The Central Committee elected by the congress was mostly irrelevant and it didn't first happen in 1924 but in 1919.
>The All-Russian Central Executive Committee, was the highest legislative, administrative, and revising body of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (Russian SFSR) from 1917 until 1937
en.wikipedia.org
The Central Executive Committee had 62 member. Of those 62, 41 were jews = 67%.
Because the list I posted are the people with actual power, which happens to refute your claims. Your "proof" is an unsourced pic of literal nobodies. I can't find a single mention of the first "jew" I searched, babtchinski, except for neonazi pages. In fact, I searched 5 of them and couldn't find a single info on them, even less if they were in fact jews, that's how irrelevant they were (if they even exist). On the other hand, the times I have seen lists like this with actually existing people they were extremely minor positions that stormtards used to further their agenda.
Jews hated the Tsar because they suffered ethnic violence under him.
Lev Kamenev = Lev Borisovich Rozenfeld
Leon Bronstein = Trotsky
Karol Sobelsohn = Karl Radek
Hirsch Apfelbaum = Grigory Zinovief
Ovshey Moiseyevich Nakhamkis =Yuri Steklov
The jews kept changing their names
>person with surname "Achkinazi" is Imeretian
kek
>Because the list I posted are the people with actual power
Please provide source that the Central Committee elected by the congress had less power than Central Executive Committee
As you may know the Central Executive Committee actually managed the State budget and internal affairs, not the phony Committee elected by the ''congress''
I can't imagine why they would do that
Lenin = Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov
Stalin = Iósif Vissariónovich Dzhugashvili = koba
Using nicknames was common. It's always funny when stormtards tell something everybody knows as if it was a big revelation (trotsky = bronstein woah!) because it only reveals how little they know about history.
That sometimes happened because they wanted to conceal their identity in Imperial times.
It's interesting the ''theory'' jews were persecuted seem to legitimate the fact jews got their revenge with bolshevik revolution.
a) if jews were massacred by the Tsar and killed Russians later in 1917 to get their revenge, then the ''conspiracy'' jews funded Bolshevism is true
b) if the ''conspiracy'' is true then there is no reason to deny the jewish roots of bolshevisk
Other than Stalin and Lenin, which others had nicknames?
We don't actually do that anymore due to the rise of flouride-based toothpaste.
>In the summer of 1904, an eighteen-year-old anarchist, Nisan Farber, stabbed and seriously wounded Avraam Kogan, the owner of a spinning mill, as he walked to the synagogue on Yom Kippur
were the anarchists working for the Tsar?
Ah, yes, who could forget about the incredible influence of soviet figures such as "babtchinski", "weinberg" or "ganzburg". Truly incomparable power compared to people like lenin, trotsky, bukharin, stalin, dzerzhinsky, etc.
Totally not trying to further an agenda guyz, the former ones had the real power.
It's not a theory, it's a fucking fact, pogroms happened
One person isn't quite the same as Cossacks murdering entire towns is it user?
>being this desperate
user, the only reason you chose the 1924 Committee elected by the congress is because it had less members and less jews than the Politburo and the Executive Committee.
Or perhaps you didn't even know about the Executive Committee(which managed the State budget and dealt with internal affairs).
>It's not a theory
I'm talking about the revenge theory.
I found many marxists here during the past few years saying the jews made the 1917 revolution to get revenge for the Tsar oppression of jews.
They don't realize this line of thought proves that bolshevism was created by jews.
>Other than Stalin and Lenin, which others had nicknames?
Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky (Russian: Фéликc Эдмýндoвич Дзepжи́нcкий;[a] Polish: Feliks Dzierżyński [ˈfɛlʲiks dʑerˈʐɨɲskʲi]; 11 September [O.S. 30 August] 1877 – 20 July 1926), nicknamed Iron Felix, was a Polish and Soviet Bolshevik revolutionary and a Soviet statesman. His party pseudonyms were Yatsek, Yakub, Pereplyotchik (meaning "bookbinder"), Franek, Astronom, Yuzef and Domanski.
>user, the only reason you chose the 1924 Committee
Are you retarded, I posted the 1919 committee. And you were previously discussing with another user. We both know you posted an impossible to verify list of literal nobodies, fuck off.
I'm not talking about how they talked to which other but how they told everyone about their names.
For instance, Karl Radek wrote books and articles signed by Karl Radek. Same with Trotsky. It's like they were trying to hide their jewish names, but that's probably a conspiracy.
>I posted the 1919 committee
elected by the congress.. I asked you to post a source to say the Comittee elected by the congress had more power than the Executive Committee. I'm waiting
I don't think it can be denied they were willing recruits just like the other minorities in the Russian Empire like Poles and ethnic Ukrainians
No, it doesn't. It explain why they were overrepresented. It's not a grand conspiracy. The same way kurdish, black, or native overrepresentation isn't a grand conspiracy, they're oppressed minorities. And nobody said the "jews made the 1917 revolution".
>OP ask why communists deny the jewish roots of communism
>communists spent the entire thread denying the roots of communism
KEK
Yes, it is, as proven by the fact that some non jews did the same.
>It explain why they were overrepresented
So you agree jews were overrepresented in the RSDLP before 1917 and in the communist party after 1917?
Because the proof of it is arguable unlike say the Jews' notable involvement in dozens of rightwing neoliberal and neoconservative schemes.
>be wrong
>get proven wrong
>lol it was the jews in this thread!
>Neoliberalism
>Right-wing
Are you swedish or german?
I already did, the people in one list are immensely more influential than the people in the other, to the point that it is impossible to find any reference to the people in the one you posted. Which by the way means that you are blindly believing a random pic from the internet with no source at all.
That's generally what happens when most of the population hasn't even had a high school level education
>rightwing
>neoliberal
t. /leftypol/
Sure, they were a bigger percentage of the soviets compared to the proportion of jews among the overall population. Not even remotely to the degree to which stormtards like to pretend, but they were overrepresented.
Lenin was half jewish, retard.
And Trotsky (a.k.a. Lev Davídovich [b]Bronstein[/b]) was jewish himself.
Stop being so delusional.
>the people in one list are immensely more influential than the people in the other
So you are saying the people on this list aren't influential?
The problem is
a) the date
b) The Executive Committee is not the same thing as the CC elected by the congress
The executive branch is more powerful than any congress.
if you think communism is firmly a jewish ideology you're retarded. the bolsheviks were composed of more than just jews, humans are capable of fucked up shit on every spectrum or ethnicity.
>Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism[1] refers primarily to the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.[2]:7 These include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade,[3] and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.
Try getting out of /pol/ once in a while.
Why bolshevism is mostly promoted by whites?
>wikipedia
You realize by that definition, Lenin's NEP was a liberal ''right-wing'' policy?
>Lenin was half jewish
False. Lenin was a quarter (non matrilineal) jew and raised as a christian. Which makes him not a jew under both jews or nazis, neither genetically culturally or religiously.
>And Trotsky (a.k.a. Lev Davídovich [b]Bronstein[/b]) was jewish himself.
My point was that the people in the link I posted were relevant while he posted a list of (supposed) jews who were literal nobodies. My point wasn't that my list had no jews. Please learn how arguments work and come back.
>Jews love money
>Communism promotes equal spread of money
>Jews love communism
Can some autistic /pol/tard explain this to me?
>2017
>denying judaism is the mother Marxism/Communism
What went so wrong with Veeky Forums?
Again with the unsourced pics. Let's pick a random "jew", say Schlichter.
>Schlichter's grandfather, originally from western Germany (Württemberg), settled in what is the present-day Poltava Oblast of Ukraine in 1818. Schlichter was ethnically one-quarter German and three-fourths Ukrainian.
en.wikipedia.org
Stop believing in random pics you see on the internet, retard. I don't know if you are one of the pathological liars or if you're just an idiot that has been lied to, but there's shit tons of made up shit to further the neonazi agenda, I've seen entire marx texts adultered.
And no, most of those had no power compared to the ones of the other list (excluding, of course, those that are on both).
Lenin's NEP was indeed a right wing policy, compared to the previous economic policies. In fact, the section of the party that defended those policies were called the right opposition. Of course, left and right are relative terms, but neoliberalism is in the extreme right in any case.
>Again with the unsourced pics
First you said the CC elected by the Congress was more important than the Executive Committee, then when I proved the Executive Comittee was just as important (or perhaps more important) you are trying to change the subject..
You don't have to be ashamed of communism being mostly jewish. Unless you are an anti-Semite, of course.
>First you said the CC elected by the Congress was more important than the Executive Committee, then when I proved the Executive Comittee was just as important (or perhaps more important) you are trying to change the subject.
Except you didn't. What you did prove is that you are posting infographs with false information. And what you have proven with your subsequent post is that you don't care that you are spreading false information. So you are part of the pathological liars and not of the idiots that just follow along.
>Lenin's NEP was indeed a right wing policy
was it good or bad for Russia?
I'm almost certain it was pushed by the right-wing jews inside the Communist Party to destroy the utopian dream of collectivism.
Obviously a real left-wing person would never consider something like NEP
>infographs with false information
You went from ''unsourced pics'' and ''supposed jews'' to ''false information!''.
Very nervous?
Perhaps if people weren't so afraid of admitting jews created communism it would be a lot easier to find wikipedia articles (or those who they don't delete) with more accurate information.
>its a "stormfags make ANOTHER shitposting thread where they stubbornly throw out memes and refuse to listen to answers to their rhetorical questions about jews, all after ONCE AGAIN their hitler circle jerk thread gets BTFO
It was good in my opinion. Jews were both in the left and the right side because they didn't side based on their ethnicity (in fact, zinoviev and kamenev allied with stalin and ousted the trotskist left wing), stop thinking about everything in terms of race like a brainwashed /pol/tard.
I don't agree with you, the dozens of right-wing jews inside the Communist Party actually promoted NEP to destroy what the Bolshevik revolution achieved.
You posted unsourced pics with supposed jews who were untrackable, either because they didn't exist or because they were so irrelevant that they didn't leave any trace on the internet. Then you proceeded to post a pic with actual existing people, and the first "jew" I look up is not a jew. So yes, you are posting unsourced infopics, supposed jews, and false information. You are a pathological liar trying to spread a narrative.
Ah yes, the lack of evidence for my conspiracy is evidence of my conspiracy.
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If the Committee has a majority of jews it's a irrelevant Committee made of nobodies
If it's 16% or less jewish than it can be considered a strong and important Committee.
Today in Veeky Forums.
Stormtards pretend a pic with random names and no sources, whose names can't even be found on the internet, are the group that held all the power in the soviet union.
>whose names can't even be found on the internet
Obviously because the names are all made up by nazis, duh
It wouldn't surprise me. I still remember when a couple of stormnigger were spamming threads trying to convince people in Veeky Forums that beria was a jew and that stalin meant "son of jew". I'll repeat myself: they're pathological liars.
I think there's a lot of truth to Alexander Solzhenitsyn words and thoughts should be more famous, this guy fought his entire life against communism for what he had lot of support all over the world
>I'll repeat myself: they're pathological liars.
Exactly!
>Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Neoliberal. He hated the communist regime for the simply reason communists wanted to free the russians from western capitalism
100% of the people that started world wars were Austrian
Austrian genocide when?
The Tsar was already out of power by the time the Bolshevik revolution happened in October 1917. All the Bolsheviks did was kill the already powerless royal family.
Soon
Pinochet wasn't right-wing according to you?
Pinochet was a extreme right-wing dictator and an eternal enemy of the enlighten people
Breivik was right. The real enemy is not jews but left-wing whites. They are the ones doing the dirty work for many decades
Getting rid of white marxists is a lot easier than murdering ultra rich jews.
Cont of Doesn't matter anyway. 'Neoliberal' has no clear definition and is usually used as an insult.
Stalin was so Christian he married a jewish woman and his daughter even kept the family's jewish surname in honor of the God's chosen people
More lies. And more non sequiturs: your conclusion doesn't follow your (false) premise.
Pathological liar.
bolshevism = jewry
I like how OP made the thread about Marxism specifically when in reality communism is older than Marxism, going back to before the French Revolution, and Marx was just an influential author of communist works. But that makes it harder to argue that the whole thing is a Jewish invention, of course.
The fact is, something like communism was almost inevitable given the social and economic conditions of post-Enlightenment Europe.
>Why leftists have a hard time admitting the roots of marxism is pure judaism?
Because that would mean pretending that Hegel, Adam Smith, David Ricardo and 90% of Marxs writings dont exist. Or that all the above figures were crypto jews with access to a special true talmud that other jews dont.
> 85%+ of early communists were jews, at least 70% of the Communist Party of Russia were jewish, etc.
What about in Asia and Latin America? Hell what about the communist parties outside of Germany and Russia in places like Spain, the UK, Yugoslavia and France?
Jews are also overrepresented in Medical school applications and medicine (indeed in the 30s and 40s Jewish applicants were often the majority) is medicine therefore pure judaism?
>If communists don't believe in racism why they simply don't admit jews created and promoted communism more than anyone else?
Because that would require a specific and rather broken form of logic that requires one to believe communism was created and only existed between 1917-1933 in Russia and Germany
> think there's a lot of truth to Alexander Solzhenitsyn words
You think its true that communist repression in Russia slaughtered more people than the Second World War or those in Communist China?
Do you think that the world was blind to the evil of communism despite the numerous military interventions and trillions of dollars spent to stop it during the cold war?
Do you think that all the volumes of books written by the Russian Communist Party memebers prior to, during and after their rule were and translated into many languages were all just made up to trick Russians?
Do you think that the millions of Russians who followed and fought for communism were all just dupes and that the mass programs that raised living standards and enforced Russian chauvinism and destruction of ethnic minorities were more tricks?
>why are people who have been treated like shit for hundreds of years drawn to an ideology that wants everyone to be treated equally
I don't know man, it's a complete mystery.
What's wrong with the Jews in control? They given us porn and the internet. I'm pretty sure we will have sex bot waifus in 5-10 years.
>complaining about Wikipedia
Is this 2005 or something?
Those weren't Jews, OP. Communism is based in atheism and hard materialism, and the USSR shuttered synagogues and denied Jews permission to migrate to Israel.
What you mean to say is that Communism drove people away from Judaism and welcomed ex-Jews as members - but why should this be considered a bad thing?
Imagine sitting in front of your computer and unironically typing out 'Breivik was right' verifying the captchca and still actually posting it
>5 million Jews in the Russian empire live under Apartheid-like system.
>Only allowed to live on a territory called Pale of Settlement
>Banned from living in the big cities AND from becoming peasants, so they're forced to become urban poor in small towns.
>Because of high birth rates towns are massively overpopulated, squalor and hunger everywhere.
>Can only escape from the Pale if you are rich or if you get higher education, which very few can because of anti-Jewish quotas at the universities.
>Hated by the government, constantly massacred in often state-sanctioned pogroms.
>The Jews begin to support a militantle anti-nationalist ideology that aims to do away with all kinds of religiously and nationalistically motivated persecutions.
N-NO... HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?? WHY DO THEY HATE US SO MUCH? HOW DARE THEY REBELL AGAINST THE BENEVOLENT RULE OF WHITE CHRISTIAN MASTER RACE????
All they had to do was to convert to christianity and intermarry with the local population and there would have been no issue. But that is too much to ask for the arrogance of Gods Chosen right Chaim?
fun part is that made poles and ukranians hate jews more than russians
Bolshevik literally means "Majority", the majority of Bolsheviks were Jews. No more need be said.
Many Jews a.) lived in cities because land ownership was restricted, b.) were intellectuals due to Jewish emphasis on studying scripture, and c.) hated the Tsardom for constant persecution.
Marx was christian
Not him, but there are serious problems with thus reasoning.
1)Most 19th century people were pretty fucking serious about their religious beliefs and weren't eager to abandon the faith of their fathers. Like, why didn't all Turks and Greeks just convert to islam and live peacefully under sultan instead of fighting and dying in all those rebellions and wars?
1) With the rise of Russian nationalism in late 19th-early 20th century, baptizm wouldn't help, because they began to introduce laws even against baptized Jews and later also against their children and decendants.
*Serbs and Greeks