Tell me about interwar Czechoslovakia, Veeky Forums

gdp per capita you massively autistic faggot

>Honestly what the fuck, are you claiming that living conditions were better in Indonesia, Argentina, India and China than in Czechoslovakia?
Not related to this discussion but Argentina was as wealthy as Canada in this period, maybe you should read a book.

As for China, India and Indonesia they were poor on an individual level but had a huge population.

>Of course it wasn't top 10 economy in raw, total numbers
Well that's what you claimed retard.
Don't get assblasted when someone that knowns more than you calls you out on it.

>but per capita it was even better than in Germany, UK and other developed countries
Bullshit, it was on par with Greece.
Barely "developed" but on the poor-ish side.

Pic shows GDP per capita in Europe in 1938, Czechoslovakia was Italy or Greece tier.

You are both faggots.

Czechoslovakia was in the top 10 when it comes to industrialization (our country inherited 80% of A-H industry), meaning we were basically in top 10 most technologically advanced countries, but in no way the richest.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_by_past_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
According to this list, we were in top 15 when it comes to GDP per capita, and with 13 bil population, that would put us in about top 30-40 when it comes to actual wealth, which is still pretty damn impressive considering how small country we were.

And when it comes to HDI, we were undoubtedly in top 10, partially because out country was founded on purely democratic principles, and democracy rooted pretty strongly here (even after WWII, we were most democratic country in the east, which is why we were pain in the ass of the USSR and thats why they sent tanks over in 68th)

That list puts Czechoslovakia at $548 GDP per capita and Greece at $560 how is that different from what I wrote?

Let me tell you about... the Legions

>It was a poor-ish country, roughly on par with Greece, and far from an industrial powerhouse.

We were in no way poor-ish, and we were industrial powerhouse that fueled whole Nazi warmachine.

Delusional

Calm down there buddy, it was in 15-30%.

>the Gajda face you make when somebody says Czechs have no navy
Well i'm just gonna steal your boats and now i have a navy

>country of 13 billion powering 30% of invasion of the whole damn world
>not an industrial powerhouse

>Well that's what you claimed retard.
I'm not that OP mate. He worded it poorly, but only a retard would think someone with a brain would claim that Czechoslovakia had one of 10 biggest economies in the world. I only clarified.
>Barely "developed" but on the poor-ish side
The numbers are heavily distorted by Slovakia and Ruthenia (as stated above), and even then, you are talking about 1938 - time after the great Depression that hit Czechoslovakia hard and from which they never really got out, and which was only worsened by political situation (whic has steadily gone to shit from 1933 on).
desu this is basically what I'm trying to claim. If you make diference between Czech lands and the eastern part, the numbers get where I claim them to be (much higher).

You also oversimplify the development - indeed, we (I'm from Carlsbad, family from around Jičín) were very democratic after WW2, but we weren't really during the 1950s - the 1960s were sort of a small renaissance in the country, trying for a "communism with a human face", admitting many mistakes from earlier years (hardly democratic). That is the reason for 1968's Soviet invasion.

Democracy in the interwar period was also a bit varying, especially in the beggining and during Masaryk's reign (the Maffia can hardly be considered purely democratic, for example).

>top 10 industries in the world
>top 15 GDP per capita in the world
>(approximately) top 10 HDI in the world
>top 30 overall GDP in the world
>most democratic country east of France
But then, the commie nation attacked

>[This is what Czechs actually believe]

Source: Geographisch-Statistischer Universal Atlas profesor Hickmann, Freytag & Berndt, Vienna, 1927

>Argentina
How can you not know this? Why do Northern Hemisphere cucks think everything south of Mexico is like Mexico?

The Czech influence was probably strongest during the invasion of Poland and France, when Germans had no real tanks of their own, or only in very small numbers, and when Czechoslovakian artillery, tanks and airplanes (and other equipment, given to the Germans for free) played an actual role in the wars.

München was a massive mistake. Czechoslovakia was ready and more than willing to fight. We would have lost alone, but we could have inflicted some decent damage to Wehrmacht, and if anyone intervened (on our side), maybe do more and prevent the spread of communism afterwards.
The problem were the Poles and Hungarians, who would most likely join Hitler if we fought.

It wasn't easy in the start, but it is exactly because of Masaryk that democracy rooted so deep in here. He was fighting for democracy and truth basically his whole life, and because of the later very successful propaganda, it stuck to people.

TGM was overall pretty fucking based, he learned the whole nation to be democratic through his actions. We could have ended up fascist shithole like Hungary.

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>It wasn't perfect, but it was comfy, it was working and it was pretty nice.
Support for the local branch of the Nazi party was more than 90% of German population (including numerous Jewish German-speaking minority lol). Czechoslovak govs were famous for their ability to consist of left and right wing parties with seemingly irreconcilable ideological differences just so minorities wouldn't get to power. Just like apartheid, it fell when opposition got material support to fight back.

>Kdo zradil, toho zrada čeká
>mfw now we are shitting on EU refugee quotas and Germany and France are getting flooded by nignogs as a consequence
Shouldn't have signed that treaty, frogs

>local branch of the Nazi party
Henlein distanced himself from Hitler during the elections.

>was more than 90% of German population
Nope

>Just like apartheid, it fell when opposition got material support to fight back
That opposition was crushed easily, threats of invasion and diplomatic pressure did the trick.

>czechoslovak airplanes played an actual role in the wars.

you are a troll right? Czechoslovakia got Š.328, first aircraft that wasn't made out of wood only in 1935. And as you would imagine it was inferior in about every conceivable way to anything Germans had.

>Henlein distanced himself from Hitler during the elections.

>Czechoslovak govs were famous for their ability to consist of left and right wing parties with seemingly irreconcilable ideological differences just so minorities wouldn't get to power
This desu
Czechoslovakia with German Sudetenland would never work in the long run
Thanks god for Hitler's faggotry, otherwise we would have to give them up

I'm really a Czechaboo. It was such a wonderful country. I wish the Little Entente held strong. I wish Germany was kicked in the nuts the day their troops crossed the Rhine.
I even have some distant family near Karlovy vary, tho i've never been in contact with them. Dad told me that he went there to visit them once.

>I say clearly that I never had anything in common with Hitlerism. German national socialism ends for us on the borders, just as our party does. We are no succesor to Kreb's party.

t. Konrad Henlein 9.10.1934

In 1935 when he was invited to Britain he even claimed he is trying to prevent another war by solving problems that could give Hitler casus belli.

Now post some quotes from 1938.

Fuck off, I for one would have enjoyed German neighbors (assuming they didn't caught rabies from unemploymen during the Great Depression).

>tfw largest party in a state doesn't want the state to exist
this is just pathetic

Last elections of the 1st CSR were in 1935.

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Yes, and lord Runciman wasn't fooled and provided factually correct information.
Jesus fuc*ing Christ, are you comparing interwar Czechoslovakia with Southern Africa right now? For real?
Minorities had power in accordance to their voting power, just like in any democracy anywhere in the world. Just because the parties hadn't matured yet, doesn't change anything - democracy was introduced in 1918, maybe, just maybe, that had some effect on the development.
My bad, got caught up. Yeah, air force was shit, doesn't really change anything about the other statements. Sorry.
Not with the rise of German nationalism, true. Without it, there was no real reason for it to fail (except for outside intervention).
Yeah, what a shame that Mussolini fucked it up and turned to Hitler, and that the French were the pussies they were.

funfact: Frank's wing of the SdP gained power in november 1937 when Heinz Rutha was accused of homosexuality and pederastry in response to which he hanged himself. This incident was used to discredit relatively moderate Henlein and force him to join Hitler's merry band.

>there was no real reason for it to fail

>Germans and Czechs living together in modern era of nation-states
look how much problems is it causing for Spain, UK, not even talking about Middle East and Africa. We could manage with Slovaks, since we are so similar, but not with Germans, they would break away sooner or later.

>Become one of the top economic
Wew lad
>Hitler fucked up everything
*Edward Benes fucked up everything

Now post some quotes from 1938 :D

>is.muni.cz/th/123654/pedf_m/

It was working even with Germans, until they were hit by unemployment.

>Minorities had power in accordance to their voting power, just like in any democracy anywhere in the world.
Thats called tyranny of the major and it's one the greatest flaws of democracy. I really hope you're not defending it.

>Eduard Benes fucked up everything
What should have he done? Assasinate Chamberlaine? Start a war against enemies with overwhelming population?

desu I am, but that's not really the main point - the point is, the minorities in Czechoslovakia were happy with it.
The Germans got along for a long time - until Hitler came around. They weren't that diferent from the Czechs, except for being slightly richer and speaking German better. They have been part of the kingdom for centuries, Czech lands are not Middle East, Spain or anything else.

>What should have he done?
1. Give Germany Sudentland because that's the only other option besides getting occupied
2. Try to appease the Slovaks

Sure they were ok during prosperous times, but they were a potential instability. During first economical or political crisis they would break away, like any minority throughout whole history

>1. Give Germany Sudentland because that's the only other option besides getting occupied
You sound like someone who doesn't really understand the situation. The "Sudetland" wasn't exactely a defined area, there were no solid borders between Czech and Germans but a gradient that could be further exploited. Not to mention abandoning borderlands would leave the country defenseless and obedient to any further German demands.

tl;dr: You either have Bohemia in the hands of Czechs or you have in the hands of Germans, no alternative option is viable.

>2. Try to appease the Slovaks
No need, they were rather docile.

>1. Give Germany Sudentland because that's the only other option besides getting occupied
Thats exactly what he did and what fucked us over though.
Czechs gave their defenses to the enemy, and after that, nothing could stop the german invasion, we would end up exactly the same.

The Great Depression already happened, and the country was still doing okay in terms of inner stability. The problem was Hitler.
Any other claim that can be debunked with actual things that happened in Czechoslovakia?

>You can't give the Germans the German population of Czechoslovakia
>You would have to create concrete borders , what am I a border expert?
>The Slovaks didn't want independence at all!
>If they did, then they would have to vote for it in a democracy favored against them completely
T.Edward Benes

>The problem was Hitler.

Sudeten Germans were susceptible to Hitler memes thanks to the Great depression because they suffered disproportionally higher unemployment than Czechs, while Hitler's Germany solved the issue.

>Thats exactly what he did and what fucked us over though.
Actually he was advised by France and Britain to give them the Sudentland , and instead started a partial mobilization giving Hitler the excuse he needed to invade.

That was retarded.

>You can't give the Germans the German population of Czechoslovakia
I doubt Beneš would have problem with that.

>The Slovaks didn't want independence at all!
Learn2read, no one claimed there were no separatist tendencies on the Slovakia. Thing is the separatist were in minority (see parliamentary elections).

I'll admit i don't know much about this specific era to carry on an in-depth discussion, but my guess is this

Great Depression was considered a failure of capitalism, so the divide in society was ideological, and therefor it was impossible to play the national cord
Great Depression hit all the nations in the world, and couldn't objectively be blamed at Czechs/Germans/Slovaks

I just cannot believe that Germans would be contempt living in Czechoslovakia for long. In time, the nation would have to centralize meaning they would have to be Czechified, same as Slovaks, also in time they would notice that Germany is doing better off than us (which it would just because its bigger), and even the name itself is Czechoslovakia, not "Czechoslovakogermania". Those people were citizens of CSR but they were still Germans, and their nationalism would kick in sooner or later.

Where did you even came up to this nonsense? Do you live in an alternate reality where Case Green was a real thing?

The mobilization, that came before was response against Germans concentrating forces in preparation to Case Green and terrorist activities of the Freikorps. In the resulting tension Beneš was forced by Chamberlaine and Daladier to give up the borderlands and he did so.

>started a partial mobilization giving Hitler the excuse he needed to invade.
If Hitler would straight on invade during that time, it would mean all out war

>Actually he was advised by France and Britain to give them the Sudentland
>he was advised
>advised
>"Give Hitler Sudetenland or we will declare war on you"
>"advice"

"solved" by setting the economy on a path that allows only for war, which isn't really an acceptable solution for a democratic society.
They were also susceptible them, since they were Germans in 20th century and Hitler took to the lowest levels in order to get public support.
Well, as you said, you don't.
The division wasn't really ideological, the left didn't suddenly arise.
You imply that coexistence of multiple nations inside a single state isn't possible, which is a very strong claim with no good basis for our topic - the Germans were motivated by Hitler and the support he recieved from other countries (nobody dared to confront him and give any opposition a hope). A friend of mine works in a museum in Brno, and his favorite topic are Germans who weren't nazis - and there were many, I might get some sources from him for next time.
You assume some form of centralization would be necessary and that it would damage the minorities and nationalities, which is an interesting assumption, but I don't see any claims as to why that would happen.
This. The west gave up on Czechoslovakia, Chamberlain said something in terms of "why should we go to war for a nation we know nothing about" after he arrived with "peace of his time". Will try to find citations later on.

>"solved" by setting the economy on a path that allows only for war, which isn't really an acceptable solution for a democratic society.
Germans didn't haved this hindsight.

>Hitler took to the lowest levels in order to get public support.
Great depression was the issue that gave Hitler power and it worked even better on the Sd Germans, as they were hit harder than the Czechs.

My source on the claim is btw.

>a very strong claim with no good basis for our topic
The fall of A-H makes for a good example, and generally, the fall of imperialism.
I am not even talking about nazism right now, but generally, you can't have two different nationalities living together in a state that is ruled by one. Modern nation is based on language and ethnicity, and any nation that tried to deny that faced/is facing the consequences (Russia, Spain, UK, Ukraine, Baltic states with their Russian minorities, Yugoslavia and generally the whole Balkans)

>You assume some form of centralization would be necessary and that it would damage the minorities and nationalities, which is an interesting assumption, but I don't see any claims as to why that would happen.
Centralization is a necessity for modern nation to be successful, any any of the above mentioned nations that tried implementing it had to deal with the negative impact it had on the minorities

>It's a conspiracy theory
Guess wikipedia is a conspiracy pushing website then.
>As the tepid reaction to the German Anschluss with Austria had shown, the governments of France, the United Kingdom and Czechoslovakia were set on avoiding war at any cost. The French government did not wish to face Germany alone and took its lead from the British government and its prime minister, Neville Chamberlain. Chamberlain contended that Sudeten German grievances were justified and believed that Hitler's intentions were limited. Britain and France, therefore, advised Czechoslovakia to concede to the German demands. Beneš resisted, and on 20 May 1938 a partial mobilization was under way in response to possible German invasion. Ten days later, Hitler signed a secret directive for war against Czechoslovakia to begin no later than 1 October.

>Terrorist activities by the freikorps
Don't pretend like the Czech police didn't crack down on the Germans too.

>The mobilization, that came before was response against Germans concentrating forces in preparation to Case Green
Oh yes, just like how Britain invading Iceland was a defense measure against the Germans and how Germany invading Norway was a defense measure against the British.

Maybe you're just taking the machiavellian elements out of geo-political tensions when it comes to your side as everyone else does? Benes may have been less aggressive that *Hitler* but the man himself was not very favorable to German and Slovak minorites either.

>It's a conspiracy theory
learn2read brainlet. No one was talking about conspiracy theories, but about the fact Hitler never invaded Czechoslovakia. He achieved his conquest through shrewd diplomacy alone.

As for the claim that Beneš should have succumbed to German demands, it is bullshit because he did succumb to German demands (at least in the reality I live in) and it obviously did not work out.

Not sure what you mean by "crack down", but they weren't running around murdering and kidnapping civilians for the lulz like the Freikorps did.

Or maybe I actually have some knowledge on the subject and I know that Hitler concentrated forces along the borders so he could cry once Czechoslovak army responded. The mobilization itself was not "aggresive" or "controversial" by any means.

>but the man himself was not very favorable to German and Slovak minorites either.
Are you aware that the first Czechoslovak republic was not ruled by single person? Not to mention he was favourable to the Slovaks and granted lot of the priviliges the autonomists demaned.

Carck down on Germans? The hell does that even mean in the context. Freikorps literally assaulted police stations, killing innocent people for no reason at all, only to infuriate the Czech government and force a reaction out of them that would help them get public support among sudeten Germans. That's why people from Germany came to do this a lot, especially early on.
Yes, because as we can see, giving up Sudetenland was not the literal end of the state, but Hitler kept his word and let the Czech people live in peace afterwards.
Beneš, and the Czech people knew that it wouldn't stop and that even if German claims were fair (which is debatable), they weren't since and honest and their goal was the destruction of their state, which they have proven in a timely manner.

Uuuuuh I don’t know about 15 billion buddy

Dude used the same phrase a few times, probably confuses billion with million. Happens to the best of us.

>Dude the mobilization was not a stupid move working in Hitler's favor lmao
>Czech police did nothing wrong
>Benes did everything he could to appease the Slovaks
What do we even call you, a Czechaboo? Yeah, they weren't terrorists like the freikorps but let's not pretend that they didn't beat the shit out of Germans. You realize that ethnic tensions are rarely ever one way, right?
>Czechoslovakia was a democracy
You don't say?

>The germans came out of nowhere and just started beating the hell out of the Czech government for no reason
I mean they were definitely the aggressor when it came to the violence, but come on m8
>Hitler wanted to end Czechoslovakia independence
>Which is why he guaranteed the independence of Slovakia
Wat

>Dude the mobilization was not a stupid move working in Hitler's favor lmao
How was it a "stupid move"? He tried to convince the West to do the right thing, alas he failed and eventually surrendered to Hitler (as you would advice him). The fact Chamberlaine jr. shouldn't have been let to do British foreign policy is another story.

>Czech police did nothing wrong
You are yet to prove they did anything wrong. Not even from German sources I've heard anything about excessive violence in suppresion of the chimpout.

>Benes did everything he could to appease the Slovaks
Stop manipulating my words, brainlet.

>Let's not pretend that they didn't beat the shit out of Germans
Evidence?

Hey guys so now the war has ended we should federalize our monarchy so we can live with each other, right?
>No fuck off, we are making our national state

Okay self-determination and all that, we will make our own nation too or join Germany since we share language and culture.
>No fuck off, lands of the Czech crown are indivisible

Well this sucks, can we atleast get autonomy inside your ethnostate as a national minority?
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadaň#20th_century

>How was it a "stupid move"? He tried to convince the West to do the right thing
>Invading Germany was a good idea meme
No. What should've happened is Germany being given German lands and then been told to fuck off. Molotov Ribbentrop happened because people had this idea that invading Germany would , in any way, be a good idea and not just provoke him further.

The war could've been avoided.
>Sauce on police brutality
Well before any of that there was the Czech government cracking down on German representation in Parliament and the closing down of German universities, then of course the Land Reform Act which explicitly tried to disenfranchise Slovaks and Germans. Whje I comes to throw police, an event during the May Crisis - I think - comes to mind where the police best about 30 Germans to death.

Of course most of what occurred under the Czech isn't much compared to the freikorps , but it was still a definite problem that lead to Hitler being given the excuse he needed to invade. Trying to find primary sauce right now

>Slovakia
>independent
If you think they were anything but a powerless satelite, there isn't really a reason to debate with you about rather detailed things concerning the development of said country.
>but come on m8
Come on what? Please, list the occassions (I'm sure they're well documented, since the Nazi Germany was looking for literally any excuse to shout about the German oppression) where the Czech police did anything like the Freikorps - or anything actually violent at all (at least before Freikorps started doing their shit, but even after that you'll have trouble finding anything).
Actual instances. Here are mine:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudetendeutsches_Freikorps#Terrorism
Just like the other dude, give me actual examples of Czech police acting unfairly, killing, kidnapping or doing anything else that we could consider bad.

>No fuck off, we are making our national state
Nation states. Or what do you think happened in Hungary and Romania?

>No fuck off, lands of the Czech crown are indivisible
If they were not there would be no point in making independent country for Czechs and Slovaks.

>Well this sucks, can we atleast get autonomy inside your ethnostate as a national minority?
That was being worked on and once Germans begun to be constructive they even got result. Obviously they would not get autonomy during the generation that still remembered Habsburgs but in a decade or two they could live in a society free of hate. Unfortunately they chose to chimp out.

Do you argue with the same fervor for Russians in Baltic? Simmiliar case imo.

>Whje I comes to throw police, an event during the May Crisis - I think - comes to mind where the police best about 30 Germans to death.
Wait, that was my mistkae, that was way before Benes and just after the war during and event when Czechoslovakia was being carved out of the Hapsburg empire where Pan-German nationalists were shot by the army.

Regardless, the Czechs were very oppressive towards the Slovaks and Germans, which of course really bothered Hitler because he had a Victim Complex when it came to Germans as a whole, although it was partially true in the case of the Sudentland
Schultze-Rhonhof, Gerd, Das tschechisch-deutsche Drama, p. 52

Is what I have

Are you for real or are you arguing for the sake of it? What are you even implying that would eventually happen?

nice dubs btw

>Invading Germany was a good idea meme
It was better idea than giving it guns and tanks.
>No. What should've happened is Germany being given German lands and then been told to fuck off.
That's exactely what happened. It led to the worst war in European history.
>Well before any of that there was the Czech government cracking down on German representation in Parliament
Correct, SdP was considered anti-state party and was banned.
>closing down of German universities
Are you sure? Didn't you switched it with Germans closing of Czech unis?
>Land Reform Act which explicitly tried to disenfranchise Slovaks and Germans
It was explicitly aimed against (primarily German) aristocracy for reasons obvious. In case you didn't know they owned 1/3 of land. btw Are you sure about the Slovaks though? I don't think they had anything to do with it.

>Wait, that was my mistkae
Nice you admit it, but try to be less disingenous next time. The Germans who were shot in 1918 were soldiers/militiamen, not defenseless civies.

>Regardless, the Czechs were very oppressive towards the Slovaks and Germans
"Very oppressive"? Sudeten Germans were less opressed in Czechoslovakia than they were under Hitler and Slovaks had it comfy. All they had to do is learn Czech, which I admit is not the easiest language, and admit they are no longer the priviliged nationality.

>Schultze-Rhonhof is what I have
Then you don't have much to be honest. Just your typical German dindunufin revisionism.

So do you concede there is no evidence for the police brutality you claim happened?

Because English has retarded number names

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_large_numbers#Standard_dictionary_numbers

>Czechs would win but the League of Nations tells both to stop and split the land

But muh history teacher told me that the League of Nations dindu nuffin

>Nice you admit it, but try to be less disingenous next time
Yes, sometimes I get Austrian and Czech events mixed up as well, as there was also an event in which Germans were beaten to death by the government of Austria for being pro Pan-Germanism as well. Altough arguably the Pan-German militancy of Hitler provoked a lot for the war, history is, as always, is a labyrinth of different accounts and moral dilemmas.
>Militia men
Some of them. A lot were also women and children, as it was meant to be a peaceful demonstration. My source says about 40(?) Women
>Revisionism
It's a piece from the time, and is meant to be unbiased. Not everything that has contradicting accounts is "revisionism" btw

>Tfw I had history teacher who called out the LoN's shit tier handling of the situation in Europe
>Tfw I had history teacher who didn't like Wilson either
Fucking based

>Masaryk fucks up the A-H
>state based on autistic concept of Czechoslovakism no one actualy bealived in get created
>Beneš fucks up relations with Poland
>Masaryk fucks up the state and relations with Slovaks
>uses state terrorism, heavy state censore and political processes against the opposition
>1938 crysis
>Beneš shills for Germanic vermin, wants to give them autonomy
>refuses reasonable plans of general Gajda to put all of them although with Kikes into the concentration camps and sterilizate them
>Beneš accept Munich treaty
>general Gajda dies 10 years later forgotten on his farm instead of leading the united Slavic army to clean the Europe from the Germs forever
Also if you bealive that Slovaks wanted independent state, you learned history from HoI

forgot pic

>there was also an event in which Germans were beaten to death by the government of Austria for being pro Pan-Germanism
There was also an event in which those Pan-Germanic Germans murdered Austrian chancellor Dollfuss and tried to take over the country.
>history is, as always, is a labyrinth of different accounts and moral dilemmas
And yet you seem to ignore every event showing Germans in a negative light. From terrorist actions of Sudetendeutsche Freikorps to Austrian Nazi putsch from 1934.

>Some of them. A lot were also women and children, as it was meant to be a peaceful demonstration. My source says about 40(?) Women
Sounds like bullshit (or you got it mixed with the expulsion), what source are you talking about?

>A lot were also women and children, as it was meant to be a peaceful demonstration.
Oh sorry, I through you were talking about the skirmish in Most during november 1918. As for the demonstrations in 1919 German claims about Czech soldiers shooting innocent women and children are about as biased as Czech claims they were putting down German communist revolution (This event happened during Bayerische Räterepublik when everyone was shitting pants of the reds). Violence wasn't one sided either, two Czech soldiers got shot and some others wounded.

>It's a piece from the time, and is meant to be unbiased.
Schultze-Rhonhof ain't exactely "unbiased" author.

It was a country that nobody in Slovakia actually wanted. Hungarians asked the Entente to conduct a referendum in Slovakia, Slovak nationalists like Hlinka demanded the same, both requests were categorically rejected by the Entente leadership. Instead, the Slovak "representatives" who signed off on the Czech annexation were a few dozens unelected Czechoslovakists. The "Slovaks wanted to join Czechoslovakia" narrative is a complete joke, nobody ever asked us.

>Thing is the separatist were in minority (see parliamentary elections).
You're an idiot. Separatists weren't allowed to run in the elections, because separatism was legally considered treason. The only one who dared flirt with secession publicly was Tuka and he got jailed for 10 years on trumped up charges where the Czechs accused him of conspiring with Hungary.

>Hungarians asked the Entente to conduct a referendum in Slovakia, Slovak nationalists like Hlinka demanded the same, both requests were categorically rejected by the Entente leadership.

How much did the Czechs pay to have this happen

>There was also an event in which those Pan-Germanic Germans murdered Austrian chancellor Dollfuss and tried to take over the country.
Yes. Violence happened on both sides, this is how ethnic conflict occurs.
>I'm ignoring the militancy of the Germans
Hardly , I'm just shedding light that the Germans were not solely an aggressive force, these political movement were largely a reaction to anti-German sentiments and and widespread violence occuring all over Central Europe
>Dolfuss' Coup
Well let's not pretend he was a kindly dictator after he cracked down on all dissent, set up detention centers for political opponents, and killed about 300 people who he considered rivals or possible dissenters in crackdowns
>Not a unbiased author
>Implying history is objective
Plz, we all have our own forms of inherent bias. Especially when it comes to modern history. It's best not to pretend otherwise in the name of keeping the discussion dialectical.

>Slovak nationalists like Hlinka demanded the same
Mongoloids like Tuka arent Slovak nationalists, as i wrote, Slovaks wanting independent state was a meme, they wanted autonomy as Hlinka proposed.
see Martinská deklarace

>Mongoloids like Tuka arent Slovak nationalists
He was always a Slovak nationalist. Czech-invented slanderous myth that he wanted Slovakia to join Hungary doesn't mean anything and can be easily disproven by how he acted after independence.
>Slovaks wanting independent state was a meme
>Czechs make secessionism illegal
>"See? Slovaks don't want independence, nobody is voting for secessionists!"

Tell me when did anyone except for Magyarophiles wanted literally independent Slovakia (Tuka just wanted to get annexed by Magyars tho)

>Tuka just wanted to get annexed by Magyars tho
I already told you he didn't want that. It's just some unsubstantiated false charge the Czech kangaroo court invented in order to sentence him.
>Magyarophiles wanted literally independent Slovakia
Try to quickly ponder why what you just wrote makes literally no sense.

>charge the Czech kangaroo court
Try to quickly ponder why what you just wrote makes literally no sense.

>Czechs dindu nuffin

>Separatists weren't allowed to run in the elections
What is Hlinkova slovenská ľudová strana and autonomistický blok for twenty Reichsmark?