Pre-Revolution

When Louis XIV died one European out of four was French. In 1795 France was the third most populated country in the world (28 million) behind China and India. When Napoleon died France had 31 millions people, and was the second in Europe behind Russia.

Over the XIXth century the French population grew +41%, while Britain grew 282%.

This was due to a multitude of factors including a high use of contraception (i direct result of the liberal revolution), egalitarian inheritance laws which favoured having few children, low rates of urbanisation ( in 1850, 25% of the French population lived in cities (55% in Britain; 35% in Germany). In 1910 only 44% of the French lived in cities (90% in Britain, 62% in Germany) and the fact that since France startes its demographic transition earlier than the rest of europe and that 20 years of revolutionary and Napoleonic wars utterly decimated a generation of Frenchmen.

So i take that as a yes

Why was France slower to urbanise?

1802 best year

>Pathetic armies. BTFO by Prussia and Fucking Mexico
Actually they wrecked the shit out of Mexico and conquered the country
Then the ACW ended and the US pressured them to leave

>Soldiers refused to fight invading armies during the Climax of WW1
I'm totally for shitting on France for WW2, but seriously fuck off dumb bong
France held basically alone on the Western Front from 1914 to late 1916
In 1917 they had some mutinies, but soldiers would still hold their ground (they only refused offensive)
After that, they went back to leading again in 1918
France was THE major power of WW1 on the winning side, and Brits don't get to shit on them while having contributed less

>forced Brits, Canadians and Americans to die for French soil
Nothing else but their own ambitions forced these countries to intervene tho
Btw, Brits are in no position to give France shit for the few times they needed allies to win when Britain never won any war against another European power without strong allies (while France did many times)

France was the foremost continental power until they were defeated by Prussians.
In WW1 they defeated Germans which again made them main continental power.
Also I have no idea why is it so hard for people to grasp that major changes and revolutions don't happen in a vaccuum, as a product of conspiracies or decisions of few people. Old France had no way of surviving. Perhaps things could've unfolded a bit differently, but a situation where nothing changes was impossible, given the conditions that existed at the late 18th century.

>largest Empire
>premier superpower at the time
>despite having less line to command, achieve next to nothing and what is gained is done at the end by their colonial troops
>couldn't even stop a couple of Germans and some random Africans from rampaging through colonies
>took 4 years and couldn't even defeat the Turks

Take a moment to laugh at the British the most cucked people on earth.

>millions or were maimed and mentally ruined to preserve an empire
>that Empire collapses within one generation of their sacrifices (both wars)
>their own descendents are neglected to favor their former colonies inhabitants
>died to defeat tyranny so that their people can't look at certain kinds of porn, say mean things and edgy websites

lol

what about the Napoleonic Wars which happened right after this? I seem to remember France getting btfo....

don't fight harder desu, fight smarter

>after 23 years of rampaging through the continent, humiliating every great power around, France finally got defeated by a coalition of 16 nations

Damn, the French sure are shit at war...
How can they even compete with Great "has never won a war alone" Britain?

Napoleon was when france peaked
After that it was a slow decline

Due to the liberal inheritance laws where each child got an equal share of their parents property. It was no longer popular for farmers to pop out as many kids as possible to help around the farm, because when you died all of your children would become equally poorer.
With no excess population moving from the countryside to the city, French cities disnt urbanise at a rate as high as Britian or Germany where the opposit was happening due to a huge decrease in child mortality with the rise of modern medicine, and no change in the culture of popping out as many little shits as possible.

Since urban population growth is exponential this caused a major gap between Britain/Germany and France.

Of course there were other factors but i believe this to be the pivotal one.

>France peaked when their emperor got kicked out the country twice
The third was the best, and th French did what they always do to their leaders

The French had a number of years in the late 1800s where their population didn't just not grow, it actually shrunk.

The ethnic french population is shrinking now :(

>Greatest philosophers

who

SAY IT WITH ME

PANTALONS

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France was the best when they fought all of europe 7 times over and won 5 out of 7 wars

>Defender of the faith
You are literally talking about the same France which forced Popes to live France and not Rome so they could better control them and the same France that sided with Protestants over Catholics in Germany during literal wars of religion.

This

t. Paradox player
We peaked during the reign of Napoléon III

>peaked during the reign of Napoléon III
>get cucked by Prussia in the same reign

>superpower, avenged that loss twice, conquered and held territory for decades, contributed to philosophy, art, and culture more than before, didn't cannibalize peasants
it was better in non-romantic terms

>Teleports behind you
Heh, nuthin personnel, kid
>destroys your country

>napoleon the thrid
>the idiot who got cucked by prussia

It has been in slow decline since 1700.

>avenged that loss twice
The first time you survived by the skin of your teeth and would have been utterly destroyed if Russia wasnt absorbing a third of Germanys forces for the first 3 years. It's entirely conceivable without the British Empire you would have fallen in the first few years of war.

Also
>claiming you avenged yourselves in the second world war
Top kek, you only embarrassed yourselves so hard your glorious martial history of the last 1500 years has become a surrender monkey meme

All if that is irrelevant anyway as it was not during Napoleon III reign anyway

that was the seventh coalition, when Napoleon had already been defeated and came back, so everyone was just done with his shit.

why don't you look at the actual important war (pic related) where Napoleon had plenty of allies and the coalition was only six nations...

get cucked pierre

>german talking about french history
it begins with Julius Caesar desu,

Ummm, no sweetie :)
French history begins with the Franks

How can they compete with Ger "Never won a war." many

>why don't you look at the actual important war (pic related) where Napoleon had plenty of allies and the coalition was only six nations...

Are you for real?
All I see in blue are satellite states (all of them but Spain being former possessions of the countries in red rather than real powers) + Denrmark
Meanwhile in red, every Great Power of the era + Britain and Portugal (Middle Powers)

t. Veeky Forums memes

>nations

What about the franco-prussian war

Good post!

>prussian

>2nd rate power, in the shadow of greater players like Britain, Russia and later Prussia/Germany. Only reason for existence is to maintain the British notion of the balance of power

You were never our equal, subhumans

You're merily american colonies, even Hungary is taken more seriously than your non-countries

>BTFO by Prussia
France BTFO'd prussia countless times, and Prussia merily won after we btfo'd the entire planet 5 five times and exhausted our man power

>Fucking Mexico
They won against other spics not against French, when they did fought against French like in the Pastry War they were quickly defeated

>during the Climax of WW1, forced Brits, Canadians and Americans to die for French soil
They didn't contribute to shit, and by "Brits, Canadians and Americans " you mean Blacks and Indians right ?

>Shit architecture like that monstrosity Eiffel tower
The Eiffel Tower was a technichal exploit for its time, and Eiffel created aesthetic monuments like the Statue of Liberty or the Bridge of Briare

>French is a joke language only spoken by Canadians and Africans
French is an international language, it is spoken by the Normand nobility ruling over the inferior anglos, it is also the language of Europe and the UN

French is indeed spoken by Africans, and not by subhuman mongrels like Anglos or Afro-Americans.

Africans will be soon the biggest population on this planet, you're just bitter because your cucked Afro-Americans will never bring you any glory while ours a paving the way for the rise of the French language as the new Lingua Franca.

>Cult of the supreme being, popularising state atheism and promoting universalism
Better than worshipping a dead kike on a stick

>WW2
You mean the war where you fled at Dunkirk while we repelled the Germans ? The same war during which you hided in your island ?

>proceed to get bested in the Napoleonic Wars and slip into a long decline into mediocrity
Republicanism, not even once.

>Soldiers refused to fight invading armies during the Climax of WW1

The climax of WW1 was 1916 (Verdun, Somme..) not 1917

funny how bongs are still obsessed with the midget emperor, how can 1 frog cause so much asshurt

continental butthurt knows no bonds

>every Great Power of the the era
>sweden
>Middle Powers
>Britain

how retarded can you be louis

>consume all royal resources in one psychotic war and blunder in most subsequent ones
>haha le based enlightenment!

>Soldiers refused to fight invading armies during the Climax of WW1, forced Brits, Canadians and Americans to die for French soil
I'm not even French but this is extremely disrespectful and inaccurate. Those men fought and bled for their country, tooth and fucking nail for 4 years. More than a million died for their country and more than 4 million were wounded. What have you done for the last 4 years besides masturbating and shitposting?
The mutiny of 1917 was about poor conditions at the front. The Brits and Canadians had already been in France since 1914 and the United States had already joined the war and was already in the process of training/bringing troops.
Basically fuck you dude

French never had that much of India. It was in their sphere of influence but at most they had a tract on the coast of the Eastern side (and that too finished in 1815)

>brought back France in the big boys league
>industrialization, finally have a decent economy
>Better relationship with Anglos
>Laissez-faire adept, created monetary unions and free trade deals with the UK
>Rebuilt Paris, though it could be argue that Haussmann style is crap
>infrastructures
>Acquired Cochinchina, New Caledonia, Cambodgia, etc... laying the foundations for the second french colonial empire
And yet memers will have you believe Napoleon III was shit because Bismarck was a genius.

>Acquired Cochinchina, New Caledonia, Cambodgia, etc... laying the foundations for the second french colonial empire

Which brought France nothing but hordes of subhumans after WW2
Colonial Empires are for faggots who can't do shit in Europe (aka Brits)
You should be pround of Napoleon's Empire rather than of shitholes stolen from subhumans

>MORON Air Base, Spain
There's a joke made every time someone gets transferred there

>That entire post
Kill yourself

>Embarrassingly bad philosophers 'Dude le religion is bad, egalitarianism is good :DDD'
Muh post-modernism. Unsubscribe from Jordan Peterson on YouTube. Now.
>2nd rate power
I wasn't aware that the nation that almost conquered the entirety of Europe is considered "2nd rate."
>in the shadow of greater players like Britain, Russia and later Prussia/Germany.
How exactly are they in the shadow of countries they defeated?
>Culture only known for hedonism and debauchery
Muh degeneracy.
>Pathetic armies. BTFO by Prussia and Fucking Mexico
Jena-Auerstadt doesn't real. Crimean war doesn't real. 1st Marne doesn't real.
>Cult of the supreme being, popularising state atheism and promoting universalism
Muh degeneracy
>Shit architecture like that monstrosity Eiffel tower
Muh Architectural Marxism
>French is a joke language only spoken by Canadians and Africans
Implying any other language besides English isn't the same way. Compared to languages like German, Italian, Russian, Polish, etc, it's far more widely spoken.

>egalitarianism

i am a little bit royalist but please honestly your passage on ww1 is so untrue . French do most of the job in ww1 .

yes also make france modern and allow france to be a major power in the twentieh century , we own a lot of thing to napoleon III , more than Napoleon I

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