Turns a peasant ridden shithole into an industrialized superpower with skyrocketing life expectancy culminating in the...

>1. It's not his photo

Where did I say it was? It's an edit which removes the scars.

>2. Russia was already undergoing industrialization at the turn of the 20th century. Stalin only added million of deaths.

Pure propaganda.

>Posts a chart that is post-1970, 20 years after Stalin's death and ignores my one.

Oy vey!

You're being a little shit. it wasn't only "mass death", it was the death of millions of people who actually produced shit.

What got left out of the grinder were sociopathic assholes to the max.

Imagine how much higher it would've been if millions of productive citizens weren't liquidated by piece of shit intelligence services.

:^)

>commie using antisemitic memes
You've literally fallen for a jewish meme ideology

>Pure propaganda.
Read a book nigger

Communism is definition of failure and communists are subhuman.

> 1. It's not his photo
It is according to wikipedia, used originally in a book about him

Better dead than red.

>It is according to wikipedia
Well I guess that settles the matter!

>'we promise you this pipe dream workers utopia!'
>kills more workers than every other ideology in history
What did communists mean by this*

Why do you think death = bad?

Are you a brainlet?

>'communism will dominate the world!'
>gets outcompeted at literally every turn by even second rate capitalist countries before collapsing less than a century later
What did they mean by that?

ha ha but im sure THIS time it'll work

I don't even think it's and edted photo of him. It's just a different guy. And there are actual Stalin photos from that time.

Suck my dick, fags

>'we promise you food and prosperity'
>causes the two biggest famines in human history
>develops at a pace far slower than capitalist states
How did they reconcile this? Delusion? Denial of the reality of their abject ideological inferiority?

>all these people literally defending a mass murdering ideology

go back to

>'you have nothing to loose but your chains'
>sends millions of people to Siberia to work in chains
Was it autism? How did people fall for this shit?

OP here, why do people in this thread think the following?

1. That Stalin was pro-Jew? He persecuted them.

2. That Stalin's goal was to have an alternative to Capitalism? It wasn't.

3. That death is inherently bad? It isn't.

Its literal communist propaganda to make him look good

>Expecting a thread on communism to do well on /pol/

2/10

Let me fix that for you...

>Be some shitty sociopath bankrobber from Georgia
>Pretend to be a communist because it gives you the chance to get more power and indulge in your sociopath narcissistic tendencies
>Destroy what was the FASTEST GROWING ECONOMY IN EUROPE under the Tsar and the #1 GRAIN EXPORTER IN THE WORLD
>Manouver yourself to power
>Murder 40 million people in famines and purges
>Collaborate with the Nazis to destroy Europe until they backstab you
>Take over half of Europe and leave a legacy of poverty, economic stagnation and mass murder

Not an argument.

>1907
>Russia is a world power

>1937
>Russia is a world power

Wow. The Bolsheviks managed to turn a world power into a world power. That's like turning an apple into an apple. Whoa. And it only took them 30 years to accomplish this. Amazing.

You are a troll, no one should even be answering

>Posting a post-1950 graph which was after Stalin's death.

Hmmmm, really makes you think...why would you do that? Really makes me think a lot...

Not an argument.

The Soviet Union was far behind the average western country at that point, even in the 30s they were buying American generators and factory equipment because they couldn't make it.

Brainlet still measuring the Soviet Union in terms of economics lmao?

It doesn't matter how they did economically. What matters is that they were content lol?

>People were content
>So content that we had to build a double-wall with barbed wire and machine guns to stop them from leaving

>>So content that we had to build a double-wall with barbed wire and machine guns to stop them from leaving

Proof?

expecting communism to do well anywhere

It makes me think "oh boy, another neoNazi-tier thread, tankie this time!"

the soviets would have fallen to the nazis if it wasn't for the americans providing them with everything from raw materials to actual tanks, guns, and ammo
plus it was the americans who built all the factories in soviet russia
the americans did all the real work, the russians simply provided the bodies

Lame bait "comrade"

Veeky Forums needs to take the true redpill

>Oppresses an ethnicity that would trigger a war that humiliates the Russian administration
Really makes you think

>Katyn massacre
The Russian government has flat out admitted that they covered it up
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4102967.stm

So content they had to erase Stalin's existence from their history books? Remember Stalingrad, Stalinabad? Those hundreds of statues of him? Where did they all go?

>take responsibility for feeding your people
>fail at your responsibility

>it's a "one man is responsible for everything happening in a country over a period of 30 years" thread

>wrong, in 1913 Russia was the second greatest economy in the world behind the USA.

Was also the biggest total shithole in the world

The west would have fallen to the nazis if it wasn't for the americans providing Russia with everything from raw materials to actual tanks, guns, and ammo

>FASTEST GROWING ECONOMY IN EUROPE
That was Germany.
>#1 GRAIN EXPORTER IN THE WORLD
Probably a double-edged sword considering the inevitable crash in grain prices and how dependent Russia was on it for growth.

It would've gotten out of that shithole stafe if they'd just waited a few more years. Instead, the communists set Russia back decades.

>muh grazillions

That's pretty incredible - life expectancy increased by 20 years in just 20 years. Only Mao beats Stalin in terms of increasing life expectancy - under Mao life expectancy doubled from 30 to 60 in a similar time period.

...

lmao

Why don't you read an actual book written by an actual professor, instead of watching "redpilled" YouTubers and reading /pol/ inforgraphs.

Here's an actual book by a Princeton PhD called Farm to Factory:

press.princeton.edu/titles/7611.html

It uses economic calculations to prove that, without Stalin's industrialization, Russia would have similar social and demographic indicators to India today - plagued with mass illiteracy, malnutrition, and grinding poverty.

Tsarist Russia was humiliated by Japan and Germany. Soviet Union humiliated Japan and Germany, less than 30 years later - gaining an overwhelming production advantage thanks to Stalin's industrialization.

wow its almost as if russian people were dying in some massive war or something prior to the 1950s

lmao

That's not Stalin, you cuck.

Lol at all these butthurt NEETs so obviously jealous of Stalin's looks. You wish you could be as attractive to women as he was. But you will never be - because physical beauty is a function of inner beauty, something which anti-communists completely lack. Coincidentally, it's why right-wingers are way more ugly than leftists in general. Pic related.

I'm curious if people think a Tsarist Russia would have stopped Hitler and his expected genocide of Jews & Slavs?

Sure the general purges wouldn't have happened but without the absurd industrialization that occurred under Stalin the Russians would have been much worse off.

why are occultists so ugly looking? can't they cast a magic spell to look better? lol

would hitler have invaded tsarist russia tho? a big reason why he invaded the soviet union was because of its communist ideology, wasn't it?

Yea that's true, no one hated communism more than the national socialists BUT Russia looks like one juicy target for the Germans if they stick with the Tsar.

Was all that hubub about Germany wanting to genocide the Slavs overblown when I learned about it in school? The whole greater Germany plan n what not. If it wasn't bs then I don't see why Russia wouldn't have still been a target.

And forget about simply production, would the tsar high command have fought to the bitter end like Stalin would have? After being slaughtered and enormous areas of Russia captured, I'd bet any other form of government would have sought terms.

Capitalism would have industrialized Russia just as quickly and also more efficiently.

Tsarist Russia was in the process of industrializing, only interrupted by war and revolution.

Peter the Great was the catalyst of upgrading Russia from the dark ages to imperial age a la AoE2. Stalin was just an opportunist after the revolution to be a powerful figurehead. Also, he was a fucking commie who killed more of his own countrymen than Hitler, so there's that.

No, it is you who will suck mine.

it's funny how people can spin this kind of stuff to make a total asshole sound great. maybe it should read:

>turns peasants into slaves to create an industrialized superpower with plummeting life expectancy for the unlucky millions who died because of him culminating in the rape and destruction of a great European country which now resembles some kind of liberal brony convention of degeneracy because of it.

>Also, he was a fucking commie who killed more of his own countrymen than Hitler, so there's that
Do you really believe that? Not a tankie either but I'm sick of the stalin killed 400 billion meme. The non-exaggerated figure is around 20 million and that includes foreigners killed during and after WW2. And even so stalin himself is hardly responsible for such deaths.

I wish there was still a large communist pretense somewhere in the world, it would make my country band against a common enemy, so much patriotism back in the day. Then again commie subversion is what made american society turn to shit.

>would hitler have invaded tsarist russia tho
i don't think there would have been a hitler if russia was still tsarist tbqh

That's the most Anglo face I've ever seen

Tbh Japan and Germany are far smaller than Russia, senpai. Is it any wonder?

invaded Finland to name just one... enough said really. he even lost to the Finns and they're like... a tiny little country of snowman and igloo ice fisherman.

obvious that he wanted to take over Europe, yet it all gets blamed on hitler for pre-empting it and kicking him out of Eastern Europe. Too bad Hitler didn't win. Then we could have great stories about Stalin getting publicly executed or offing himself in a Moscow bunker, before Russia was restored to a capitalist country and the cold war was averted.

Can someone refute this? Or is it valid?

Forget it.

Tsarist Russia didn't even stop WW1 Germany.

And WW2 Germany was boosted from the victory over France, stuffed with Crystal Meth and a handy superman ideology to keep everyone happy. It was a nightmare version of WW1 Germany.

Don't take commies seriously

It looks like the same person to me

You think if the Nazis defeated Soviet Russia they would have turned it into a peaceful democratic capitalistic country?

no I think they would have raped all the women and children, oh wait that was the soviet army in Germany... stupid Slavic retards.

>post-stalin ussr is dissolved and life expectancy drops like a beat down to 10 in less than 4 years

even degenerated socialism is better than normal capitalism.

took the rooskies ~30 years to go feudal -> SPACE_BOI too.

capitalist cucks BTFO

believing stats from a commie country... you should read 1984 again. I bet their shoelace production was up and the victory gin actually wasn't shit too.

Feudalism was abolished before Stalin was even born

Not an argument

Serfdom =/= feudalism. Open up a dictionary doofus

Serfdom = feudalism, faggotlord.

youtube.com/watch?v=ukJ5dMYx2no&t=1s

>all the butthurt slavs in the comments

never fucking mind I just realised they disabled the comments

I'm detecting a hint of that vidya paper's please

People who keep saying communism (as in socialism) doesn't work must be historical illiterates.
No one tries to argue that the roman empire didn't work because it fell eventually, or that feudalism doesn't work because it was replaced with another system.

This is not a post defending communism.
Fucking brainlets.

>It's another leftypol shill thread

Shoo shoo commie

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