Yakuza

The Yakuza claim they're descended from the machi-yokko village militias that fought ronin assholes

Yakuza est idiotii homini, causa publicere nomen in secretii thread. Lotos legatio in pictur. Exego intentere legatere ad DEA. Ego intentere destroyere Yakuza in past in present et in futur. Legatere morsor ad caesar, rectori!

Criminal scum just the same as any other organised crime network, they are just significantly more organised than most.

Yakuza are generally nationalists and often use their business ties to orchestrate aid and economic support before the government has time to act.

It's good publicity, gets support among the locals, and keeps Japan strong.

The Italian mafia does the same thing.

>The Italian mafia does the same thing.

not really though, the "Italian Mafia" also isn't a thing, if you're referring to Sicilian Cosa Nostra they don't do aid and economic support.

Part of the reason Japan has such a low crime rate (ironic I know kek) is that Yakuza diligently patrol local neighborhoods. A woman can walk along with her purse in a dark alley, people can leave their car doors unlocked, etc, Yakuza don't tolerate any bullshit.

Cosa Nostra is a meme, it's the Ndrangheta and Camorra are closer to how the Yakuza operates

What weebshit anime have you been reading

they don't do any sort of aid before the government.

I don't read anime?

I also heard from a Japanese foreign student at my former Uni that the Yakuza primarily sells drugs to Koreans and other foreign workers because they "don't want to corrupt Japan", he left out the part about most Yakuza being Korean or Burakumin for some reason
Unlike in Japan it's actually illegal to be in the Camorra or Ndrangheta, the headquarters address and phone number of the Yamaguchi-gumi is publically listed

>The yakuza police themselves, andfollow a strict code of behavior. When a member gets out of hand, the yakuzadisciplinethem. They also help reduce petty crime in areas in which they collect revenue. InKabukichō, a teeming nightlife district of Tokyo with several yakuza businesses, members of the organizations patrol the streets and watch over arcades, restaurants, bars, and more. The yakuzahave such a strong presence in this area, there are very few police booths (which are ubiquitous in every major neighborhood in Tokyo), not because the police are afraid of the yakuza, but because they aren't needed.

Took all of 2 minutes. The Yakuza operate in the open and being a member isn't a crime. As such they regularly patrol the areas where they have legal businesses to maintain profit and prevent petty crime.

yeah but the Italian mafias are another thing completely, they don't do anything in the open like the yakuza, they sure as hell don't send trucks full of supplies when there's an earthquake and make sure to tell everyone those things are a gift from the mafia.

The trucks are owned by the Camorra and Ndrangheta, they just don't publicise it because that would be a terrible idea

do you have any proof of what you're saying or are you just talking out of your ass?

People always like painting the yakyza as some good force. They are thugs all the same.

>tfw no Glenny book about the Yakuza

Except its not painting them in any light beyond what you make of it.

The yakuza patrol areas they operate in and reduce petty crime. This is a known fact. You can argue the intentions, whether it's from the goodness of their hearts or because they want to keep a reliable stream of revenue and don't want unsffiliated criminals taking a cut of their action.

But it doesn't change that the Yakuza do lower petty crime rates in areas they operate.

They control the freight industry in Southern Italy, it's a known fact, any truck that supplies aid not owned by the federal government military or otherwise is 90% likely to be owned by part of their network

>it is a known fact
try harder

also pretty convoluted reasoning there, you are just speculating basically, nobody has ever investigated upon that and came up with reports or official charges but you would know, c'mon now.

>60% of incoming port shipments in Naples are undeclared
>They don't control freight
Read Gommorah

Saviano is a hack and so are you, bring me the actual police figures and we'll talk, I can make up inflated figures too without source too for selling books you know.
also assuming you read that book nowhere does it talk about the Camorra offering "aid and economic support" to anyone.
if anything they profit from tragedies like those, when Campania was hit by a strong earthquake in 1980 they actually got heavily involved in the rebuilding business and made millions out of it at the expense of the people who lost everything. I am sure the Yakuza also got their profit from that but don't compare the two when one is open about their aid because they feel to show off and the other one is secretive and never operates in the open like that.

Uma delicia

>Bring me police figures about an organization that has the police in its pocket
Even comparing the Yakuza to other organized crime in pointless because the biggest Yakuza aren't even recognized as organized crime in Japan you brainlet, you think the truck drivers that drive to a disaster for the Yakuza aren't fucking paid? You think the Yakuza who are heavily invested in government infrastructure programs don't benefit form rebuilding just as much as the wogs do when there's an earthquake? Are you an idiot?

>Even comparing the Yakuza to other organized crime in pointless because

then don't fucking compare them, easy, you made a horrible analogy between them and the "Italian Mafia", got corrected on it, got your panties in a twist and you're still trying to make up some convoluted as shit argument to justify your pedantic bullshit, get over yourself.

I never called them the Italian mafia dickhead, I specifically mentioned the Cammorra and Ndrangheta because they're closer to the organization of the Yakuza than any other organized crime. You're getting hung up on the fact neither of those organizations have the same legal representation groups like the Yamaguchi-gumi does instead of recognizing using sub-contractors associated with or outright owned by the Camorra and Ndrangheta to service disaster relief isn't functionally the same thing

>they're closer to the organization of the Yakuza than any other organized crime.

one is a crime syndicate that basically anyone can join and operated out in the public, also owns a lot of legit businesses and has official ties with politicians and associations.
the other is a strictly family based secret society that nobody knows much about still (only two ex members ever collaborated with the authorities and revealed important stuff ever) which makes most of its money from international drug trade and the construction business.
the third one is not even a whole organization but more like a broad term for various different clans that operate in the same region, which have also been at war with each other numerous times, it's not famil based but definitely not public and not anyone can join, they too make money from drug trade and construction, but they do so independently from one another and they have very different structures of power.

why compare them? I don't know dude, seems pretty retarded to me.

>sub-contractors associated with or outright owned by the Camorra and Ndrangheta
I'm getting hung up on the fact that you're basically making this one thing up out of nowhere, I have read about the Yakuza aid in Japan and it was all very well documented and backed by other sources, while this thing youa re talking about is just the supposition of an internet guy with literally zero (0) sources backing it up in the real world.

>b-but muh Saviano
at least find me the passage in the book where he talks about them giving aid to people as the Yakuza did.

>one is a crime syndicate that basically anyone can join
You're totally wrong about this you know
>at least find me the passage in the book where he talks about them giving aid to people as the Yakuza did.
No one does as the Yakuza does because it's completely acceptable to be a member of the Yakuza (as long as you don't have a criminal record), you aren't fucking getting it are you? Do you think the federal government in Italy has a fleet of trucks in every region for just in case there's a disaster? Where do you think they source them?

admittedly I'm not an expert on Yakuza recruiting procedures but it's way easier than say the 'Ndrangheta where you are never going to be a member unless you're born in a mob family, they even marry within those families only, it's completely different.

>Do you think the federal government in Italy has a fleet of trucks in every region for just in case there's a disaster? Where do you think they source them?
every nation has its own Civil Guard or whatever you want to call it that has trucks, helicopters and all sorts of vehicles ready to utilize in the event of natural disaster, Italy is relatively small also and they come from all over the nation in no time, surely less time than it takes to outsource the whole thing to other people, but assuming you had a slightest idea of what you're talking about, do you have any fucking proof or o you think that persevering in making wild hypoteses and assumption will eventually make you credible? jesus you're so desperate to prove something that you literally cannot prove, for what? just give it a rest.

what does get sourced after an event like that is the rebuilding operations, the state does not own heavy machinery for debris removal and rebuilding so they have to outsource, and as I already told you the Camorra got its hand all over that business in 1980, which is well documented by numerous reports and official investigations, unlike your fantastical assumptions.

>it's way easier than say the 'Ndrangheta where you are never going to be a member unless you're born in a mob family
70% of most Yakuza is Burakumin, a lot of them are ethnic Koreans, you can't just sign on
>do you have any fucking proof
That the Camorra controls freight and waste disposal? You're also pretending the entire Yakuza is the Yamaguchi-gumi with your focus on these aid trips, and they aren't, they're just the biggest. The Kudo-kai don't give a shit about anyone and they're as much Yakuza as the Yamaguchi-gumi

I already told you I am not an expert on Yakuza, I take everything you're telling me as good because you know more than me, what is utter bullshit about your argument is that two completely different organizations can be compared and that you drew a parallel on one thing saying that the yakuza offers aid "just like the Italian mafia" which is just not true, even if you engage in a funny degree of mental gymnastic like you're doing.

> your argument is that two completely different organizations can be compared and that you drew a parallel on one thing saying that the yakuza offers aid "just like the Italian mafia"
I think you're confusing me with another poster, all I've ever claimed in the shipment of food and aid in disaster relief relies on local companies which happen to be controlled by local criminal syndicates which makes it functionally the same thing the Yamaguchi-gumi do but without the support of legality to emblazon a clan mon on the truck and claim credit. I've also never once used the term "Italian mafia" because that's a bullshit term attempting to bring together several organizations that operate completely differently from each other

This is actually really common in countries with a lot of orgizised crime.

Also I think like 60% of yakuza come from Burakumin backgrounds. So I think a lot of it might be that they aren't bad people rather depending on the time they grew this was literally one of the few ways to advance socially.

Yakuza HBO show when?

>Gang boss Touma Sakamoto dealing with crazy family, violent gangsters, and a lack of Natto

japan has a ridiculously low crime rate. this is just a fact.

I'm sure it's because they're diverse

They are "good" guys, they are economic businessmen, if you have a problem which can't be solved by the police, you turn to the Yakuza, remember in Japan police are pretty much traffic guards and maps. If you have a potentially violent problem which you don't want to involve the authorities with you would pay the Yakuza to deal with it and it most likely would not get out of hand. But they are large in all a scam, they hire kids and offer them an internship whereby at the end of a few years they will be Yakuza, their internship is pretty much slavery, cleaning the bosses house and simply looking after him, they don't get paid for this. And then because of the strcit requirements for being a modern Yakuza, they have to be extremely smart and be able to earn money, someone who doesn't earn money is not kept around for long. It's all about business.

The best part about the "real" Yakuza, by that I mean any Yakuza past before 'now' 21st century, they didn't tolerate drugs, they are why Japan is pretty much drug free, they make billions upon billions in gambling rings and shady business, they did not and some they continue to have an utter disdain for drugs and any young people who operate in drugs are not real yakuza. Funnily enough America is forcing a crackdown on the Yakuza in modern times, and drugs are rising.

Pic related is a good movie on the modern Yakuza. The yamaguchi gumi are one of the richest gangs in the world and they barely deal in drugs.

Yakuza peddled stims like methamphetamine (then under the trade name Philopon). The fact is that they alone can totally control the market and independent operators can't spring up like they do here in the States.

*reported
Foreigners are shocked at how lax police are when it comes to filing and investigating crime.

In fairness i don't know shit about this but the idea that they would try to reduce petty crime in the areas they operate just seems smart

>people like you, less likely to report you
>less likely to have police roaming about

So they are not like in those NTR blackmail manga? What the hell, with some many of those from the archetype I thought it was real.

Well that's what happens when you hide most of your crime reports.

The Yakuza legally exist in Japan with the actual "Yakuza" name being displayed on some of their businesses, which most likely serve as a front for their illicit business practices. I have read on the Yakuza organization making moves in the finance industry of Japan where they engage in securities fraud and other finance business schemes. I don't recall the statistics so you can only take my word on this but it is said that a majority of the publicly traded companies of Japan have a Yakuza connection. My inference is that they engage in insider trading, the potential profits and risk heavily outweight that of the drug trade I my opinion. My point is that there is a shift in their illicit business practices from drugs to finance and I appologize for not providing any references.

>The yamaguchi gumi are one of the richest gangs in the world and they barely deal in drugs
That only applies in Japan, they don't give a shit about selling to gaijin or exporting meth to Korea and Taiwan