ITT: Figures who knew only suffering

Consult the chart.

Figures is generally meant to refer to humans, not birds user.

Needs a round two to sort out memes.

What is at 100 suffering, 100 deserved?

>German Empire
>Suffered much less than Israel
>Only deserved it slightly less
user they suffered more than Israel could imagine and deserved none of it.

Wanna know how I know you're a tankie?

Cartaghe

I see Poniatowski at 35/80 there.

>get heavily injured covering Napoleon's retreat from Russia
>spend two months recovering and rebuilding Polish forces in Warsaw
>Tsar offers you amnesty and command in Russian army
>refuse, take the 20,000 Polish forces you scraped together and rush to the Emperor's aid
>Napoleon promotes you to Imperial Marshal and makes you cover his retreat from Leipzig
>you manage to cover their crossing but panicking French blow up the bridge before you can retreat
>your trapped forces get slaughtered and you get shot and drown in the river

>As a reward for his services, on 16 October during the Battle of Leipzig, Poniatowski was made a Marshal of France and entrusted with the duty of covering the French Army's retreat.[2] He defended Leipzig, losing half his corps in the attempt, finally falling back slowly upon a bridge over the Weisse Elster River, near Leipzig. In the general confusion, the French blew up the bridge before he could reach it. Poniatowski tried to escape across the Elstermühlgraben at modern Gottschedstrasse 42, but, covered with wounds, drowned in the river.

I wonder what he felt when he saw the bridge blow up.

Also Karl Philipp of Schwarzenberg (the Austrian commander at Leipzig) was a friend of his whose life he saved when they fighting Turks a quarter of a century earlier.

>Stalin's son
>mother dies before first birthday
>dad calls you a "mere cobbler"
>try to commit suicide after your dad rages at you for your engagement to a Jew
>misses heart
>dad mocks you "he can't even shoot straight"
>captured in WW2
>Germans offer to trade you for a German Lieutenant
>dad declines offer
>sent to concentration camp
>run into an electric fence and die

>Che, Marx, and Tito deserved it more than Pinochet

go to bed peterson

>german empire
>not germany as an entity
deserved every bit of it

>Jesus
>a rebellious heretical cult leader and a pretender to the throne
He deserved what he got. Also, I don't see how he suffered any more than hundreds
of thousands of other criminals crucified over the span of Roman history.

youtube.com/watch?v=Gmalvvvve5E
>when i was a kid
>i found in the closet
>hidden in the linens
>an old picture gone yellow
>grandpa saw me eyeing the picture secretly
>i asked him "grandpa, who's this bearded man"
>grandpa saw me eyeing the picture secretly
>i asked him "grandpa, who's this bearded man"
>boy, that's uncle Draza
>said grandpa with a sad face
>believe gramps he wasn't a villainous traitor
>he didn't want a five pointed star
>he didn't give up on his patron saint
>he loved his king
>and he gave his head for it
>he didn't want a five pointed star
>he didn't give up on his patron saint
>he loved his king
>and he gave his head for it
>he was a grand serb
>and that's why they killed Draza
>boy, believe your gramps
>the commies are lying
>boy, believe your gramps
>the commies are lying
>my grandpa is gone today
>the commies will disappear too
>that picture now hangs on my wall
>my grandpa is gone today
>the commies will disappear too
>that picture now hangs on my wall

t. Pierre LaFrog

Ungrateful frogs

DELENDA

Died like a Roman.

St. Antipas did nothing wrong.

EST

>decisive war-ending victory
bull

>subsequent disaster at Gettysburg and fall of the Confederacy is largely blamed on his death
by who exactly?

glad to see Huemac there, truly a man ahead of his time

...

Jesus Hitler

>Lieutenant

>trusting the French to have his back
What did he expect?

Witold Pilecki
>Survived Polish-Bolshevik war
>Survived Polish campaign, his brigade destroyed 7 panzers and 2 planes
>Actively worked in resistance
>Volunteered to go to Auschwitz to gather intel
>Survived Auschwitz, created a conspiracy network inside the camp, and managed to escape
>Survived Warsaw uprising
>Survived further German captivity
>Arrested by communists after the war
>Tortured so much he said that Auschwitz was a joke in comparision with this
>Shot as a traitor after a fake trial

English wiki is retarded - Zoya Gunina wasn't a Jew, but daughter of a Orthodox priest.

Also,
>firstborn child is dead after 8 months

Lol muuuh food muhfucka!!!

RIP i crie evrytiem ;_;

The Union army could have been destroyed at Malvern Hill and that very well could have ended the war. I doubt however, that the Maryland Campaign had any hope of success.

am i missing something, how did the Romanov family deserve the shit they got more then Leopold? i could maybe understand if it was Nicholas but that seems strange to imply the entire family deserved what they got.

me on the left

>Lindybeige at X20, Y30

SPOILER ALERT!
WARNING!
SPOILER ALERT!
They executed Lenin's older brother. It was like Gurren Lagann.

This chart has some issues. Augustus suffered WAAAY more than that. Also Carthage dindu nuffin.

Lenin's brother tried to assassinate the Tsar (Alexander III), and was killed years before Nicholas took the throne (Nicholas would have been only 16 at the time). To say people only tangentially related to it deserved it is quite a stretch.

Which Mithridates is that because the screenshot looks like it says died 401BC which no corresponds to no Mithridates to my knowledge. If it's referencing the Eupator he didn't suffer all that much.

>Cruxifictions, child sacrifices
They suffered and caused suffering but they dont deserve it any more than any other place.

Vercingetorix suffered way more than that and deserved none of it.

Because a civilization had capital punishment it should be considered deserving suffering?

>rebellious
He was literally a hippie that went around performing miracles and telling people to live good lives and he got crucified because his following was "a bit too big for our liking"

Who would say Christ?

"uhhnn I'm suffering so much, the mythology says I'm literally god and perfect, uurgh the pain and suffering" lmao

And that means one day of suffering equates to comparable or more suffering than some of the other people on the list who witnessed life-times of setbacks and failures; people that watched what they created crumble before them and THEN endured a painful day of suffering?

Come on now.

DELENDA

I won't hear any lip from a novus homo.

EST

But Christ was blameless whereas they were not.

>Carthage = 100/100
FUCK YOU SHITLORD.
ONLY THE OLIGARCH WERE SHIT.
Rip punibro's ;_;

I'm pretty sure the Romans had a law on the book about sacrilege.

Don't whine, he has his name engraved on the Arc de Triumphe

They even named a Parisian boulevard after him
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulevards_of_the_Marshals#List_of_boulevards

>Don't whine, he has his name engraved on the Arc de Triumphe
Yeah, I'm sure he's fucking glad about that

Christ committed no sacrilege because He was who He claimed to be.

>I wonder what he felt when he saw the bridge blow up.
he probably thought that the poland should have allied hitler instead of counting on napoleon and imperial stalin russia

jesus ;_;

Did you read my post you stupid fuck. They also overused capital punishment.

The Romans didn't crucify Jesus for any reason other than Pilate told them to.

Even if we bypass potential for theology shitposting, fact is Romans had a law against commanding people to not pay lip service to the Gods. We can know this based on the trouble the Jews got in with Caligula. This is separate from what he was tried for.

I put Pedro I & Pedro II in this chart!

I read your post and your vague notion of how to qualify people on the chart is asinine. Every person suffers and causes suffering. Even more so for entire empires. The point of these charts is to reflect on intentions and fates in the context of the period.

>overused capitol punishment
Please don't throw out unqualified statements. Overused compared to what? Based on what?

Looks like she had a great life, all things considered

>taught slaves to read
>still fought for the confederacy
Jesus Christ he was autistic

Just because he believed in paternalism doesn't mean it's antithetical to better the lives of slaves. This notion that all southern slave owners were this unfiltered hatred unleashed onto the source of their livelihood is a false narrative.

That's probably more of a product of poor whites if anything. They were the ones who felt their livelihoods and social status would be the most threatened by emancipation.

Anna had a great life.

Charles was suffering.in a way, like Petain before him, he too lived long enough to see himself become the villain.

>Puyi
>suffering 100
what

>be franz
>brother murdered
>son kills himself
>a shit ton of extended family dies in accidents
>wife gets assassinated
>decide to chimp out after nephew dies
>empire gets destroyed
fug :--D

Someone post Leopardi

I didn't make the chart.
1. You glossed over >child sacrifice
2. I specifically said in my post >they dont deserve it any more than any other place.
3. They used crucifixion which is basically torture then death, they even used it on their own generals if they lost a battle.
Read faggot.

>given control of a dieing empire
>immediately overthrown
>hated by the ROC
>Japan invades
>force him to rule over their client state
>ROC hates him even more for being a "traitor"
>PROC win war and demote him to a regular citizen
>force him to support the government
>make him a janitor for the rest of his life

Basically, he was forced into bad situations and then punished for being in them

Lost Causers (basically every Southerner except Shelby Foote)

Why is Junko furata on here, yeah she suffered but shes not really a historical figure

Shelby Foote is bae

Me

>loved his retarded daughter
>loved his retarded country

I mean he WAS a shit teacher

why did he suffer so?

youtube.com/watch?v=KZVPi0zT7nY

literally a man

He didn’t care about Franz Ferdinand though, and the war wasn’t his choice, he was pretty old and not a choice maker by then

>Most measured and gentle King of France in generations
>He and Marie Antoniette donated millions to the poor, had vast charities, and truly cared for their welfare, much more than previous kings anyway
>Rejected ostentatious displays of wealth, even offered to melt his silver and crown jewels to pay off France's debts
>Inherited a huge financial mess that wasn't his fault, most debts were from the 7 Years War
>Strongly supported American Independence, only for the Americans to snub him in his hour of need
>Tried to negotiate with the nobility and the Republicans, offered to turn French into a Constitutional Monarchy
>There was no appeasing the Jacobin mobs
>Crowds stormed his palace, stripped him of his titles, and executed him after a mockery of a show trial
>He and his wife are still synonyms of shitty out-of-touch oppressive rulers worldwide despite the historical record being quite different
Few leaders have seen suffering as much as Louis XVI.

Give the mob an inch and they will devour you. They will destroy you.

>an entire world war launched to save them from Germany
>Raped and holocausted by both the Germans and the Soviets
>the war ended with them being ceded to the Russians

>plot with Prussia and Austria so they can invade your country and restore your rights

Sources?

He tried to escape to Austria when his arrest was imminent after his Constitutional Monarchy proposal was snubbed by the Jacobins.

In the end it was a mistake, because it gave them the argument they were looking for.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XVI_of_France
I know wikipedia is a meme but you can start here.
Most of what I said is accepted history today.

The Jacobins seized power after that, the Assembly wanted to keep the king.
They were the ones who pushed for a constitutional monarchy, but Louis commited treason and that helped the Jacobins

i often wonder what would have happened if Churchill and Roosevelt would have gone full autist and made it clear to the USRR from 1941 onwards that they would only accept a settlement under the terms of self-determination of the peoples of eastern europe, and that no border corrections were to occur

kek.