The Cold War

Letting people elect socialist government instead of Zionist one like in France is literally definition of democracy. Btw Stalin allowed allies to fake French and Italian election so communists would loos them.

Soviet union was democratic snowlake

oh yeah, DDR was also democratic because it says so in the title

>the Soviets can hardly be blamed for wanting an Iron Curtain

Ugh yeah they can. The Berlin Wall and the oppression that it represented was among the 20th centurie's greatest atrocities.

Tell me why it wasnt democratic.

>Who/what was to blame?
The anglosphere when they decided to side with the Soviets

>le ebin (((meme)))

>"""democratic"""
Oh yeah we really spread democracy everywhere

not an argument

The Berlin Wall and DDR were criminal but weren't among the biggest atrocities of the century.

>Ugh

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War

The cold war is just the continuation of a long standing conflict. Western powers started it though.

the US may have been fairly democratic, but the majority of the regimes they propped up in defense of communism were not very democratic at all

There is literally no one to blame.

Once the two different politically alliances, both open about their expansive politics, remained the only important players on the world's stage, it was obvious they will try to jump to each others throats.

It's like closing two people - claiming the other one should die - in one room, and giving each other a knife, then wondering who of these two causes whole distrust.

I know several Bosnians who grew up in the 1990s that would much rather have the old communist Yugoslavia back.

Freedom means nothing if tanks are rolling over your home.

Sssshhh... You'll spoil the narrative. Remember: everyone who lived under communism or socialism hates it with a passion, and the only people who say anything non-negative about it are useful idiot hippie college kids. Anyone who says otherwise is a shill or useful idiot to be shot. Shill.

Stalin the manlet

WWII hadn't finished when Churchill already knew that some shit was brewing up

It could be boiled down to "it's not paranoia if they really are out to get you"

The Soviets feared that the US wanted to break the Soviet's grip on the region in order to move in and influence the markets of the region at the Russian's expense, they were right.

And the US feared that the spread of communism was a world revolution that threatened the capitalist system as a whole, the main source of their titanic economic wealth. They were right.

The ideological propaganda of both Capitalism and Communism may spout things like spreading freedom and democracy, or crushing oppressors that have trampled on the working class, but the bottom line was who had power and who had access to the money and markets.

The Soviets however had other more pressing issues such as general security, after 2 major invasion from Europe in 20 years, they were all but done with taking chances and set up the Warsaw Pact to put as much distance between them and the West as humanly possible to deter what they believed was the inevitable third invasion.

It's not really a matter of who started it, cause both parties did the other no favors when it came to trust, giving both sides mutual responsibility in kicking off the Cold War.