Race of ancient Egyptians

>>looked like Arabs
>that is stupid to say

He didn't say they ARE Arabs, just that they looked like them, Which is 100% true.
>namefag
>is a moron

Figures. Filtered.

from top left to bottom right
yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no, mybe, no (unless celtic mercenary) hes.

Why do you think that the Nordic could be an Egyptian, but not the Africans?
lol that sounds a little biased.

They looked like actual Somalians, Erythreans, Arabs, Greeks, Egyptians
They were as diverse as a big and long lasting empire could be be

>Nordic

The fuck are you babbling about, retard? They were the same race as Greeks, Arabs, ancient Anatolians, Spanish etc etc, ie, Mediterranean. Is Egypt in Scandinavia? No? Then how is it Nordic you dense cumstain?

they did change but the change was relatively slight. the people who resemble the ancient egyptians the most today are modern egyptians.

>Filtered.
wow
you hurt my feelings, you can fuck off and they didnt look like arabs, ignorant

Ancient Egypt was mush less diverse than modern Egypt is. Yes they had Nubians and maybe a few Kushites, certainly they had Berbers, yes there were some West Asians (Hebrews, for example), but the great majority were what we would call "swarthy whites", much like the Copts or like modern Misri.

The white blonde guy looks nordic to me, wtf are you on about?

>They were the same race as Greeks, Arabs, ancient Anatolians, Spanish etc etc, ie, Mediterranean
this is what brainlets actually believe. and "Mediterranean" means nothing since it includes mena sandniggers many of whom have little to do with each other.
go read actual studies.

he's talking about the dynastic race theory.

he is nordic but he isnt from egypt

Such a phenotype would be pretty goddamn rare in Ancient Egypt but Europe is right across the Med and the Egyptians hired mercenaries and took slaves form there so it's conceivable you'd see a guy like him in ancient Egypt. But yes, he's probably not a "native" Egyptian.

Why do you think its bait? My professor literally said that Old Kingdom Egypt was started by Sumerian migrants

Aren’t copts basically Arabs at this point, and “swarthy white” seems to be a oxymoron.

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Copts are pretty mixed, but the races they mixed with (mainly Greeks and Arabs) are of the same general racial type.

> “swarthy white” seems to be a oxymoron.

They are (and were) white in the general racial term, but many people think "white" is a synonym for European, while Egyptians are white in the same sense that Italians and Arabs are.

Modern Egyptians are ancient Egyptians with more or less 15 to 20% foreign admixture, mostly negroid. They were actually less black back then than they are now.

even muslim egyptians are closer to ancient egyptians than they are to arabs.

the bottom two rows look more like indians than blacks.

They're black caucasians, not negros.

This. It's a mistake to assume modern Egyptian muslims are descendant of the Arabs, they're mostly descendants of ancient Egyptians who converted to islam.
Check this haplomap of the Middle East and you'll see Egyptians are very different from real ethnic Arabs from Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

>Brought to you by the same people who likely think Medids have been mongrelized or Islamified.

>black caucasians
not such things, tyrone

Why are modern egyptians so close to arabs genetically but then ancient egyptians and arabs are far apart?

Somewhat darker version of top right or bottom right. The genetics test done in 2017 find that the Lower Egypt samples are by far the closest to modern Saudis and Yemenis, and fairly close to modern Egyptians if not for an addition 7-8% SSA admixture.

nature.com/articles/ncomms15694

>The closest populations on the MDS with respect to our ancient meta population (AEGY) are modern populations from Saudi-Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Yemen and other Near-East populations.

The genetic map also shows the three completely preserved Ancient Egyptian samples clustering closest to the Bedouin samples.

stop spouting stuff you havent verified. Copts dont have greek or arab mixture.

>Why are modern egyptians so close to arabs genetically
they arent. Modern Egyptians (Muslims) have around 10-15% arab mixture due to Islamization. Copts have no Arab mixture.

Why don’t these motherfuckers look anything like “their” old artwork?

That's a modern reproduction and may or may not be accurate. Could you find the actual mural that it was based on?

How about you look at portraits painted on sarcophagi after the Greeks introduced realistic portraiture? And before any Afrocentrists chime in, while the people pictured were culturally Hellenized and took Greek names, they were still fully ethnic Egyptians, as the Greek settlers largely did not intermix with the locals and did not practice mummification. The Fayum mummies are pretty much what pure (albeit somewhat higher-class) Egyptians looked like during antiquity.

That pic I posted is pretty consistent with all the other art from that time.

that girl looks pretty similar to the guy on the chariot, you know those people with the leopard skin skirts arent egyptians right?

Yes, they’re allegedly Nubians iirc, which raises the question why are half of them the same color as the Egyptians

because they are right next to egypt probably, theres bound to be some overlap

Upper (Southern) Egyptians are much darker. The darker phenotype seems to have been more prevalent earlier on.

That darkening was cause Ham's sons settled around Egypt which is why it was called the Land of Ham in the Bible. Ham's son Canaan married Egyptus, a nigress and descendent of the cursed Cain, combining the curses. It's also why Egypt fell from it's ancient powerfulness as Cain couldn't farm due to the curse, he was also cursed to be a wanderer which may have entailed their migration out of Egypt and the curse of Ham basically made darkie nubians take over.

Didn’t cain’s decent die in flood?

How did the greeks describe the Egyptians?

guy on right second from the bottom is fucking styling

the original version of this has no colour. this is a replica produced in the 19th century and currently on display at the british museum.

The Coptic people have been in Egypt for a long time, but I don't think they've been Ancient Egypt-long.

We have winner.

PROTIP: Ancient Egyptians were not a single unified race.

The population of El-Fayum was like 70% ethnic Greek. It was an enclave.

Genetically they were closest to modern day lebanese/palestinians.

>tfw I'll never have a beard like the bottom two right guys

That's not a photograph, ancient artists didn't have access to any color they wanted but only a limited pallet, and Egyptians were more interested in symbolism and artistic convention that they were in naturalism.

Nigga their language is literally ancient Egyptian.

youtube.com/watch?v=_My11pp05Vw

Also this, .

>he's probably not a "native" Egyptian
You honestly think any of the pic related are? And what do you mean by native? What do you mean by Egyptian? If by native you mean simply being born there regardless of your race and whatnot and by being Egyptian you mean living there and simply occuping the geographical territory of Egypt then anyone from Chink to Slav can technically under the right circumstanses become "native egyptian". Just cause nowadays Egypt is occupied by fucking arabs who conquered and done a fine job of breeding out the actual egyptians who weren't darkskinned to begin with save for the tan, of course, and negroes, doesn't make said arabs and negroes egyptians, as in those egyptians who built pyramids and invented one of the first written languages in the history of humanity, just like how arabs aren't persians just cause they conquered and have been occupying the territory of former persian empires and breeding out the real persians ever since.

>You honestly think any of the pic related are?

Any of them except the begros and the blonde guy could be native Egyptians. I'm not saying any of them actually are, I have no clue who any of them are, but they all look like the types that are native to Egypt both today and in the past.

>Berber

there are some berber isolated population found in Atlas mountains untouched by sub-saharans or by arabs, their genes appeared in north africa 5600 BC.

just so you know, the whites on the upped right are berbers, before getting ruined by arab black invasion and arabs using sub-saharans as slave soldiers to subjugate christian/pagan/jew berbers.

Man, if only the Egyptians had left us sculptures, or artwork, of what they looked like....

so they just sprung up from the ground? lmao 5600 BC? who the fuck you fooling?

That's a known forgery and fake by some German artist, go look it up. That's far from authentic.

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Autism, do you have it ? genes appeared means they were the permanent result of a migration and/or mutation. same thing for blue eyes for exemple, they just happen that's called mutation, go and study plastic arts faggster.
these people were pretty much isolated for most of their existing + poor AF. you need to mix with arabs and blacks in that part of the world to get some dollars.

>they all look like the types that are native to Egypt both today and in the past.
>native
>today
Already adressed that in
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>If by native you mean simply being born there regardless of your race and whatnot and by being Egyptian you mean living there and simply occuping the geographical territory of Egypt then anyone from Chink to Slav can technically under the right circumstanses become "native egyptian".
>Just cause nowadays Egypt is occupied by fucking arabs who conquered and done a fine job of breeding out the actual egyptians who weren't darkskinned to begin with save for the tan, of course, and negroes, doesn't make said arabs and negroes egyptians, as in those egyptians who built pyramids and invented one of the first written languages in the history of humanity

>in the past
How far back in the past are you talking about? OP is talking about ancient egyptians, the one-of-the-first-civilization-to-arise egyptians, pyramids-egyptians, Cleopatra egyptians, up until the arabic invasions and conquest, if i may theorize. And none of the pic related, save for two marked with green, look even remotely similar to ancient egyptians of the period prior to arabic conquest of the Egypt.

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no its not, you just made that up.

>According to a Swiss art historian, the bust is less than 100 years old. Henri Stierlin has said the stunning work that will later this year be the showpiece of the city's reborn Neues Museum was created by an artist commissioned by Ludwig Borchardt, the German archaeologist credited with digging Nefertiti out of the sands of the ancient settlement of Amarna, 90 miles south of Cairo, in 1912.

In his book, Le Buste de Nefertiti – une Imposture de l'Egyptologie? (The Bust of Nefertiti – an Egyptology Fraud?), Stierlin has claimed that the bust was created to test ancient pigments. But after it was admired by a Prussian prince, Johann Georg, who was beguiled by Nefertiti's beauty, Borchardt, said Stierlin, "didn't have the nerve to make his guest look stupid" and pretended it was genuine.

theguardian.com/artanddesign/2009/may/07/nefertiti-bust-berlin-egypt-authenticity

Granted, there were all kinds of ethnicities of pharaohs over the Egyptian, history, and the population itself was a mix of people. Especially since ancient Egyptians first traded with the Nubians, then conquered them, then the Nubians conquered them, then Macedonians came through. Ancient Egypt was probably the first mixing pot. A lot of natives of Egypt, Ethiopia, and NE Africa today basically look like what all of the races mixed together would like of they race mixed for thousands of years.

Yeah, that is speculation that it is fake, not proof.

They arent white, retard

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Blacks aren't egyptians and never were.

Or it could be vandals

The revisionist history, and the effort there seems to be to shift the start of mankind from Africa, and from brown and black people are reminiscent of this old Richard Pryor skit on Egypt:

youtu.be/cfTxV1S-1wI

Except for the two marked with green?

Who the fuck said "blacks" were Egyptians. "Black" isn't really a thing, and the closest you can get to making it a thing is saying West Africans, as they are the ancestors of slaves that were first called blacks. And the Western Africans, are distinct from the East Africans, are distinct from North Africans, are distinct from the Bantu, are distinct from the Sahns, but everyone wants to lump them together. My point is they were not Arab or white. They were brown, or you can say black, depending on how you define. I notice racist like to shift the meaning of black and white to fit whatever narrative they are trying to push at the time.

Like if I point out negative things about Ethiopia or Egypt, then they are black, but if It's positive, It's because they are Aryan, not black are whatever

Except for the two marked with green

negroes were never egyptians

I've been to Egypt (spent 6 weeks moving about). Even the very dark Egyptians do not look like "typical black africans" or whatever. They look like really dark Arabs. They're also sun-baked.

When you think "Nubian", you must not picture ShaQuan or Dyrell from the parking lot outside your local liquor store. It's obvious that they have some degree of semitic/arab gene influence, like Ethiopians, Eritreans, Sudanese, Somalis, etc.

Granted the modern gene pool ≠ ancient gene pool.

It's not about them being "black". It's about them not being white, which is what the recent narrative is trying to push. Even that recent DNA thing , it came from the Northern part of Egypt and from a relatively recent time period, and was pushed as "We Wuz Kangs" , the white version.

And though nothing has disputed that the first homo sapiens, modern humans, came out of Africa, the finding of other hominids in Europe was being sold with the narrative that "Mankind started in Europe", without even any evidence that these hominids were the ones that evolved into homo sapiens, never mind the fact they weren't human.

I know a lot of white nationalists are in pretty powerful positions. Tech ,business, and science. But it almost seems like a return to the racial science of centuries past, where people instead of objectively dping research, or going in looking to prove a narrative, and letting that color their conclusions

Who is picturing that, though? The point is should be picturing people like Ethiopians ,and Etrieans, not Arabs and Greeks

Anything after arabs conquered Egypt =/= real Egypt. Arabs =/= real egyptians, neither are negroids.

>It's about them not being white, which is what the recent narrative is trying to push
Are you a black, by any chance? Or just been living under a rock lately? We Wuz Kangs (the black, and only version there is) IS the recent narrative that's being pushed down everyone's throat. Even if you take every negroid who ever lived in Egypt up until the fall of Egypt to muslims, they most likely constituted only around 0,02% of their total population, so to make them representative of ancient indigenous egyptians is beyond retarded.

*0,02% of ancient Egypt's total population

>We Wuz Kangs
Is a subset of black people and doesn't represent the majority of black people, and black people hate and make fun of those guys, too, for being Egyptboos

All Afro-centrists and the white caucasian " we wuz kangs " stop your shit, Ancient Egypt much like modern egypt was the melting pot of many civilization and ethnicities : greeks, berbers, kushites, levantine populatins, sandniggers ...

So here a reconstructed face made by a team that analyzed drawings from many dynasties, done DNA analysis, the result ... Taking in account that she's not tanned, because you all know that middle eastern can turn from light skinned to black shit when exposed to the most powerful solar rays in the world.

>We Wuz Kangs (the black, and only version there is) IS the recent narrative that's being pushed down everyone's throat.
>IS the recent narrative that's being pushed down everyone's throat.

>Egyptologists don't take it seriously.
>Nobody does except a few whackjobs on the net.
Lay off the internet for a while, would you?

>>We Wuz Kangs (the black, and only version there is) IS the recent narrative that's being pushed down everyone's throat.
>>IS the recent narrative that's being pushed down everyone's throat.
It is true.

>>Egyptologists don't take it seriously.
>>Nobody does except a few whackjobs on the net.
You can have people push the narrative and it not being taken seriously. One does not exclude the other.
>Lay off the internet for a while, would you?
nice reddit-tier comeback

But it's not being pushed. Not that other guy, but the internet is the only place you can possibly see it pushed. And if you are pol, alt right, White Nationalist type, you are even more exposed to it, with the Horseshoe Effect pushing the alt-right and hoteps into the same circles. Sometimes opposing each other, sometimes as enemies.

hotepnation.com/hotep-altright/

The people pushing the "We Wuz Kangz" are small, and have zero power, influence, or credibility

Why does /pol/ insist on coming here when they have their own containment board?

>Not buying into muh negroid, arabic Egypt bullshit = being /pol/

define who's white on this earth ? last i heard Armenians are white .. what do you consider Kim Kardashian ?

Bottom right/top right
Middle top might have been a minority/southerner but certainly not quintessentially "Egyptian"

>It is true
I dunno about you but in my country, Ancient Egyptians are still taught as and depicted as...Ancient Egyptians. In whatever school.

Not Black Africans or some shit.

>You can have people push the narrative and it not being taken seriously. One does not exclude the other.
Spergism. You know what I meant.

>nice reddit-tier comeback
Lay off the internet for a while, would you?

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