The Immigration Act of 1924 created a new quota system where Eastern Europeans (Russian, Czech, Hungarian) were viewed as inferior to Southern Europeans (French, Italian, Spanish), who in turn were considered less desirable than Northern Europeans (British, German, Swedish). Immigration had previously been mostly regulated on the state-level. Each individual state having their own policy with regards to who could enter, although there was still a cap on the overall number of immigrants who could enter per year. The Immigration Act of 1924 placed immigration under the direct control of the federal government, and also cut in half the overall number of immigrants permitted for each year. Furthermore, immigration from China and Japan was completely banned.
What was the point of all this? Why did Americans suddenly become so xenophobic in the 1920's?
Matthew Gomez
Post war depression, red scare, establishing a distinct, native-born American identity, belief that eastern europeans would not contribute to the economy
Chase Wright
>Why did Americans suddenly become so xenophobic in the 1920's? Post WW1 population wanted normalcy so the country would be like pre ww1
Cooper Carter
If they didn't do this the entire left coast would have become Chinese.
Connor Turner
Now its hispanic/asian/black/jewish.
Brody Parker
>become xenophobic The previous century was all about hating the Chinks, Micks, Dagos, Krauts, and WOPs and WOGs in general.
Jason Morris
Gonna talk out of my ass a bit but judging by these immigration statistics, could it be because they were flocking the country? Here's statistics from U.S census showcasing international migration
Xavier Edwards
>Why did Americans suddenly become so xenophobic in the 1920's? >preferring people who share your ethnicity, faith, culture, and race is xenophobia
Jaxson Martinez
This would have unironically been good. Chinese are the most based immigrants next to Filipinos. The shittiest people on the West Coast are actually Anglo descendants, even the area of "white" the Italians,`Portuguese, French, etc. all outdo them.
Ryder Morgan
Doesn't seem like Chinamen made a huge portion of immigration, compared to places like East Europe
Henry Wright
Chinese back then were illiterate ruffians generally less capable than African migrants in Europe today.
Chinese immigrants today are cool because they're educated, come with some capital, and almost always speak English or at least have some skills
Julian Peterson
>Britain is the only country without a limit
Who could be behind this?
Dominic Brooks
>Chinese back then were illiterate ruffians generally less capable than African migrants in Europe today.
Illiterate yes but they worked hard especially the ones that sought to bring family over..
Lucas Adams
They did it because they had half a century of unlimited migration from Europe (and some from the near east) and wanted them to spread out across the country and assimilate.
Also Asians, Italians and Jews (primary immigrants from Eastern Europe) weren't assimilating as quickly as British, Dutch, Germans, Scandos and Poles so they shut the border down to cool the effects of the demographic and cultural change.
From 1965-2015 we've had a similar wave of immigration both in terms of size and length and I expect that US immigration will either be entirely shut down within the next decade or the fundamental character of America will change.
Hunter Perry
>near east I meant east Asia
Jack Diaz
based asianpedes amirite?
Nicholas Collins
In the 1920s there was a sort of "Red Scare".
Settler countries and immigration magnets like America, Argentina, Canada, Australia had seen a sudden influx of Italian immigrants that usually brought radical communist and anarchist ideas with them. Italy was undergoing political upheaval and anarchist "direct actions" (assassinations, bombs) was the preferred method to spread their ideology.
This, coupled with the fact that in America Italians and Spanish were seen as racially inferior to North Europeans, led to the implementation of these laws to curtail Southern and Eastern Euro immigration and try to return to the Northern Euro immigration that was more common in the 1880s.
But it was a foolish attempt to turn back the clock, Northern European emigration was slowing down and had been replaced by Eastern and Southern European flows.
Nolan King
I bet you all the positive traits we see in american-chinese today are due to heavy, heavy filtering through systemic racism.
Kevin Johnson
Also obviously the Red Scare against Eastern Europeans was because of the October Revolution.
Noah Morris
So are you saying racism is a good thing?
Asher Johnson
It usually is no matter how hard it's implied as something inherently bad. If given a choice, with no background information, a group of Norwegians would be preferable to live with than a group of Somalis and this boils down to literally nothing else but discrimination even though every single Norwegian in the group might be a serial killer and every single Somali is a highly educated doctor. We all know the chances of such a distribution are unlikely and picking the Norwegian group would be safer.
Self preservation trumps being a racist. That's why most people would sooner take a white guy as their neighbor rather than a black guy.
Jonathan Cook
>French >Southern Europeans
Zachary Torres
"Eastern Europeans" got banned because most of them were actually Jews. Even today, the so called Russian Americans barely have any Russian blood in them. Look at Austria on your map, same reason.
Aaron Baker
The fact that we're a British country. I wish we had had something like this since, at least, the civil war. Britain at the top, then the Low Countries and the Nordic countries, then the German countries and France, then Italy and Iberia, then East Europe, then the Balkans and Greece. Austria-Hungary could be divided by region.
Lincoln Green
Good thing they imported all those Mexican slaves then.
Ian Sullivan
>Eastern Europeans were viewed as inferior to Southern Europeans , who in turn were considered less desirable than Northern Europeans That's not what your map is saying. >TIER 1 Britain >TIER 2 Germany >TIER 3 Sweden, Poland, Norway >TIER 4 Russia, Czecho-Slovakia, Italy, France, Netherlands >TIER 5 Portugal, Spain, Yugoslavia, Austria, Hungary, Greece, Turkey
Tyler Hill
James Allsup, is that you? You know you're not really white, right?
Liam Jenkins
No clue what you're talking about.
Justin Barnes
>What was the point of all this? Pacific ocean reached and settled. No reason to keep pumping in immigrants without restraint. Better to start a reasoned (more or less) policy of limitations based on what each state believes better to let in (which would be mostly protestants because muh fear of popists and cold weather farmers because the land left to settle was mostly in the country's northern half).
Brayden Bennett
>in America Italians were seen as racially inferior to North Europeans >same legal immigration status as french, dutch and swiss More like italians were catholics and America only wanted to let in specific kinds of proddies.
Gavin Sanders
Why was Austria so low?
Parker Rodriguez
Catholic, small country, comparably not that White
This is a Franklin quote
Jayden Perry
See Belgium is the lowest, guess why.
Caleb Reed
Fucking hell he was delusional. Swedes not white? The Anglos in any way whiter to Germans?
Benjamin Sanders
>Fucking hell he was delusional. No sweetie, you're the delusional one. Franklin was just an anglo shilling for anglo superiority, you are actually dumb enough to consider "white" as a valid classification of anything at all.
Jordan Anderson
He was probably referring to the fact that many Swedes and Germans tan golden while Anglos often have extremely pale white skin that can't tan at all, rather than referring to other features like hair and eye color.
Lucas Anderson
Why is Poland ranked so high then?
Same reason France got pegged down, while being of the same genetic make-up as the Brits. It was just a sham to keep away Catholics, and lessen papal influence in the US.
John Harris
I was referring to the lower paragraph, the one numbered 24.
Landon Perez
Poles are among the whitest of Slavs, Poland had a high German population at that time, and Poland was the capital of world Jewry.
Blake Peterson
Yeah, me too. He's clearly basing whiteness upon proximity to himself and his perceived in-group, which is a common rationalization. You're trying to take a context specific term and make it general, even tho there's no real ground for it.
Sebastian Perry
No, it's him that used the term 'purely white People in the World' and twisted the meaning to fit his own agenda.
Ian Clark
>Poland was the capital of world Jewry. That's what I'm saying though? You assert the ban on Slavs was instituted only to maintain Jews at bay, but somehow they didn't do this for Poland, most densely Jew-populated country in the world then?
Jason Baker
Anti-whites always wheel out that one Franklin's essay as if it means anything. It wasn't a government policy.
Eli Perry
This is true, tanned Swedes look orange while tanned Anglos look like pic related.
Eli Nelson
>twisted the meaning This is my point: whiteness has no singular meaning or definition. It was just a way to distance one's group from others. There's no objective way to define whiteness, so I can appreciate more somebody using it to shit on people other than himself and his own than somebody trying to force some new unwarranted meaning upon it.
Joseph Roberts
There was no "ban on Slavs". See
Eli Johnson
>Same reason France got pegged down, while being of the same genetic make-up as the Brits. It was just a sham to keep away Catholics, and lessen papal influence in the US. Got Mexicans now instead of a mostly European population
Lucas Sanders
>Catholic Look at Ireland mother fucker.
Aaron White
I didn't say that. He said that:
Jack Morgan
Nice meme, but Swedes don't tan orange, they tan golden like the rest of northern, central and eastern Europe.
Chase Watson
so why germanics see superior to other people?
Cooper Martin
There was no Ireland then, or at least by what I go by from wikipedia which says the map is from 1921.
So you're making no sense.
Jeremiah Price
WWWAHHHHHH WWAAHHHH WWWAAAAAAAAHHHHH :'(
Bentley Stewart
It literally is.
Elijah Jones
I don't give a shit. Fact of the matter is there was no ban on Slavs.
Robert Russell
It wasn't the government's opinion but it certainly was widespread enough to influence it.
Read authors like: Lothropp Stoddard, HP Lovecraft, Madison Grant, and others from the 1920s.
Dominic Richardson
Don't put words in my mouth is all [spoiler]rude person[/spoiler].
Sebastian Scott
>spoilers on Veeky Forums Bugger off to wherever you came from
Jayden Hill
>Lothrop Stoddard >HP Lovecraft Both of them believed all Europeans to be white, they just considered Nordics to be superior to other Europeans. >HP Lovecraft Get the fuck out this second.
Jaxson Gutierrez
Everyone uses spoilers even on boards that don't have them. Strangely enough, you're the first person to ever call me out on it. I'd do some soul-searching if I were you.
Kevin Bailey
t. Krautchan shitter Don't even try to deny it.
Matthew Roberts
>they just considered Nordics to be superior to other Europeans. So literally what I was saying? Are you fucking stupid?
See >in America Italians and Spanish were seen as racially inferior to North Europeans
Mason Carter
why you think germanics are superior?
they just part of civ 1600 years ago and full civ 500 years ago
Nicholas Morgan
Never been there. Anyways, I'm not going to shit up this thread any further.
Asher Flores
> immigration > whines about blacks Don't blame us. It's not like we had a fucking choice in the matter.
Evan Lewis
Nordics superior to non-Nordics =/= non-Nordics are not white
Camden Kelly
I never said they were not considered white you strawmanning faggot.
Gabriel Nelson
>so why germanics see superior to other people? Someone pushed it on Germany having a lot of Universities due to fragmentation. The reparations of France helped too after Unification.
Industrial Espionage played its part too.
Isaiah Davis
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Connor Murphy
>France, Italy, Russia, Spain up high >Germanic Sweden, Denmark, Norway barely even in the picture You wanted to prove him right?
Samuel Martinez
I don't, I just find your constant whining about Germanics to be quite sad.
Angel Young
No, just that he's a butthurt Med that can't deal with reality.
Adrian Hernandez
Well the picture you posted implies Italian superiority. And "Dominican" is not a Med, he's a nigger from the Caribbean.
Noah Hill
>Italy >4th >Italian supremacy
Sure thing bud lmao
Aiden Walker
Look where Scandinavian (pure Germanic) countries are.
Sebastian Hall
>And "Dominican" is not a Med, he's a nigger from the Caribbean. im not you germanic Sad and? germanic were savage that detroyed WRE im talking about germanic tribes
Caleb Mitchell
>im not you germanic I'm Italian. Post your ancestry.
Camden Lee
and italian is not a race, you can be greek, germanic or mixed with greek, latin and germanic
Evan Wright
>germanic were savage that detroyed WRE And by the looks of it they replaced it with something better
Oliver Jackson
Radio and jackass nativists getting a voice.
Tyler Davis
>fundamental character of America will change That happenef centuries ago
Ryan Roberts
Most of the rest of the Germanic world are very underpopulated. The fact that Britain is first is proof enough of Anglo superiority.
Levi Moore
It still seems fucking weird that France was in the same tier as Russia, and that Spain is in the same tier as Turkey.
Dylan Sanders
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Joseph Sanders
It probably had to do something with people spreading the ideas of communism and anarchism. I know that the idea of restricting the immigration of Poles arose after an anarchist Pollack killed president McKinley. So it's pretty much the same about restricting muslim immigration today. It's not about them being "inferior" or "non-white", it's about them being dangerous to society.
Lucas Moore
t. Barry Baruchstein
Ethan Robinson
Looks like it was based on the perceived ethnic background of Americans. Anglo-Saxons first then Germans etc. It makes sense. They wantes US to remain the way it was. Harding and Coolidge were a major step forward compared to Wilson including the policy towards Blacks.
Eli Nguyen
Leon Czolgosz was born in America and considered himself an American. The public was dumb as fuck as always.
Hudson Roberts
N O B E L G I A N S A L L O W E D
Carter Morris
>considered himself an American I don't think an anarchist would believe in civic patriotism.
Carson Hill
Also, Sacco and Vanzetti were also treated harshly and executed because they were anarchist terrorists, not because they were Italians. This still didn't stop the anti-whites of today claiming they weren't considered fully white or some shit, saying this disingenuous shit because they want to do away with "whiteness". It's interesting how they always claim this garbage whenever someone mistreats an Irishman, an Italian or a Pole in America.
Adrian Bailey
What makes Spain different from Turkey as far as Americans are concerned? Modern memes about Muslims aside.
Jacob Reed
Yeah he wouldn't. It's a more recent invention. Not that he was an American patriot. He just didn't have connection with the land of his ancestors. I appreciate not going with the heritage meme.