Is "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" socialism?

Is "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" socialism?

no

Is capitalism socialism?

No it's either National Socialism or a Celestial Bureaucracy without the Emperor.

Yes

chink revisionism

What do you think?

So even the only successful communist model is not really communism

this planet is pretty gay in all fairness

it's basically nazism with like 80% less genocide

It is, up until Xi Jinping reorganizes the People's Republic into the Second Chinese Empire.

Yes.

y'all niggas posting in a spooks thread

Oh god I would actually love this

Its communism now lel

No, they are implementing Singapore's model with some window dressing pretending to still being communist because it's literally the only justification for their party existing.

Any Lenin-derived Socialism isn't Socialism, so no.

Gow much powerful that guy is really? I guess he had considerably more influence compared to other figurehead prez (like India) but still much of executive power is still held by the premier

National socialism isn't socialism too

Xi is the President, which is a figurehead position, but his more meaningful position is General Secretary of the Communist Party.

The Premier is the head of Government, but the Government does whatever the Party tells it to, so Xi calls all the shots.

The last premier had more power because Hu Jintao didn't care too much about "having all the power". Xi Jinping cares very much about "having all the power".

Ironically, china ended to be more fascist than communist

it's a unique form of communism that can exist only in china,, so it still counts

they've taken the final NazBol pill

I love how people call Obama and the Nordics socialists but then claim a one party communist state where most industry is either state controlled or has the state as a major investor capitalist.

It's a lot more communist than most countries, that's for sure.

China is essentially doing the NEP and has been since Deng. I would consider that market socialism.

WTF I hate nazbols now

You guys know calling yourself communist doesn't mean your country is under communism right?

産 without 生 is so hideous

he's been added to the mast head and has reasserted central party control onto local cadres. It's fair to say he'll have quite a bit more direct power than his predecessor. What he does with it has yet to been seen in its entirety.

>Tudjman, Milosevic and Arafat

Into the trash it goes

Chinese had socialism and rotting infrastructure before it was cool

The more simple looking the better

Of course. It was a dialectical response to the contradiction of people wanting food and the party wanting to stay in power

>when the 歺厅 got no noodle

For the New Era*

>economy growing
>lack of mass starvation

>communism

Too early to say.
Officially the Chinese say they have to get rich before they adopt actual socialism but we'll see if they'll actually do that in the future.
I doubt it desu

I can't even tell anymore

People who think Obama is a socialist are usually dumb american cuckservatives or libertardians, and they often say modern China is communist

lolno.

"Chinese Characteristics" are completely shit.

And yet they're the only thriving gommie country in the world

Protip: it's not the same people making those two claims

The state capitalist model is proving to be a good alternative to free markets.

Ironically closer to fascism nowadays if anything.
>militarism
>nationalism
>authoritarian one-party state
>capitalist with heavy government interference

Please let it happen

It's national socialism.

>second

just wait for the bubble bursting chang

I think Communism was chosen pragmatically by Mao and the rest as the best way to overcome imperialism. They were never absolutely committed ideologically to Marx.

''chinese characteristics''

/thread.

>Chinese socialism
>based off Leninism
kill yourself

Chinks turning even communism into just another soulless capitalist product.

>Is "Socialism" socialism?
Unironically? No.

Capitalism is literally profit-maximization at the expense of all moral values. What the fuck are you talking about?

Socialism doesn't actually exist until some country tries it and within a year they now run an international space fleet colony and have evolved past having physical organisms

>it's another "we elected a single-party elected body to seize the means of production, thereby having Democratic ownership of the means of production, but it fails so we try and pretend it isn't" episode