Do you think Fascism has secured itself as a useful political system...

Do you think Fascism has secured itself as a useful political system, given it's (relative) success with Spain and Chile?

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Considering Spains economic miracle required dialing back the fascist controls on the economy, no not really

Also, assuming OP's talking about Pibochet's regime, it wasn't a fascist one.

>violent suspension of democracy to crystallize class hierarchy
>not fascism
Ok

>Fascism is just a byword for dictatorship
Brainlet

Fascism can only work in Latin countries.

Fascism is a movement that exists to protect the existing order of society from revolutionary elements. This is why fascists always positioned themselves as the alternative to the revolutionary left and the establishment right that they believe to be too weak to protect the state of society.

>Fascism is a movement that exists to protect the existing order of society from revolutionary elements
Fascism is a revolutionary element you dickhead

Is there a concrete definition of fascism? If so what is it? Its kinda devolved into a buzzword as of late and I am curious to know what it actualy is.

There's a manifesto, but it would really piss off a lot of the LARPers on this site who identify as fascist

Can you sauce a brother a link to it?

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Yo thanks man

>Chile was fascist
brainlet

>Spain and Chile
>Fascism

Pinochet and especially Franco were not fascists, right-wing authoritarianism is not synonymous with fascism. Franco was a traditionalist and a conservative who wanted the old Spain back, fascists explicitly want to bring about a new order.

Sparknotes version:

>revolutionary
>ultranationalist
>cool with violence to achieve political ends
>focus on national rebirth and past glory
>mixed-economy, welfare-state but only for people belonging to the nation
>pro-modernity (in the sense of the scientific, technological, philosophical, artistic, etc. "progress" that conservatism would traditionally be wary of)
>generally don't care for traditional conservatism (nobility, monarchy, traditional religion, philosophy, and social conventions) unless it suits them
>anti-democratic, anti-socialist, anti-egalitarian, anti-liberal

But you're right, fascism is harder to concretely nail down and since WWII practically nobody outright calls themselves fascism anymore since the world has devolved into a prejorative. I would say that the Golden Dawn in Greece is a good example of contemporary fascism.

Golden Dawn isn't really fascist, it's just the modern incarnation of Greek revanchism and nationalism, it explicitly supports free trade agreements with the CCP

Fascism is literally a Revolutionary Ideology you brainlet mongoloid

That sounds good as, where's the problem?

I don't know, they have a lot of similar characteristics with historical fascism. They aren't just nationalist in the sense that UKIP or the Front national are nationalist.

It's important to understand Greek history to get Golden Dawn, they're just the modern Enosis meme movement, there are similarities but Golden Dawn is its own unique Greek flavored brand of nationalism

tl;dr is solve everything with violence, action is love, action is life, having a consistent policy doesn't matter as long as you're winning

>having to bow to the will of violent brutes sounds good

It doesn't work because they obsess over an autarchy idea they can't achieve

They're uncultured shits like all revolutionaries

Fascism is not a political system, and wasn't considered one by fascists. It was, rather, considered as an ethos and an attitude toward life (more of a movement than a doctrine). Read some fascist documents, you'll never find an outline of fascism as a political system. That was so intentionally.

And, if we're talking about the political systems of fascist countries, then no, I don't think any of those systems secured for itself a positive place in history.

Revolutionary in its seizure of power, sure. Expressly counterrevolutionary in its perspective on society. Every single fascist movement seeks to preserve or reentrench economic or ethnic hierarchies in light of perceived threats external or internal.

Every fascist movement is built upon fears of left wing revolution.

Fascism is more Reactionary than Revolutionary

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