Why not just make several copies of a paper wallet, laminate them, and lock them up in several safe places?
Noah Nguyen
Why bother? A harder and less secure method than a hardware wallet.
Nolan Nelson
Why not just store a MEW Keystore File on a USB tick?
Brody Scott
Because unless you air gap it, you will have exposed it all to teh big bad internetz.
Jordan Brooks
>less secure
How?
Gavin Richardson
Unless you hand write it you've used a computer to type in the key, exposing it to the big bad internets.
Ryder Turner
If you didn't generate your hardware wallet on a fresh, offline, linux installation with a processor made before 2009 and drew the QR code by hand your private key may get leaked.
Matthew Wright
>hardware wallet gets smashed/stolen >lose all your money
Gavin Garcia
I added my private keys inside the code of an image file I keep backed up on an external harddrive and google drive. I also printed them out directly and put them in my safe. I'm fine.
Grayson Flores
Unless you inject yourself with neurotoxic muscle stimulants that move your hand in a specific pattern that writes out the key while you're unconscious, you're exposed to thought theft by witches and psychokinesis.
Aaron Davis
haha exactly...
You have a recovery seed that you hand write.
lol storing it on google drive.
Luis Nguyen
I have my private keys hand written by my mom directly on the inside of my penis glans.
Christopher Green
Well you need a microscope to see your penis, what do you need to read your moms writing?
Matthew Torres
If you knew how hardware wallets work, you wouldn't say this.
Gavin Gray
Minesweeper
Michael Stewart
>tfw a hardware wallet is worth more than my crypto
Cameron Richardson
Can you give me a quick rundown on hardware wallets?
Camden Hughes
>Can you give me a quick rundown on hardware wallets?
Are you too lazy to google?
Mason Nguyen
> Keep a couple of paper wallets in locked storage. > Store credentials / seed inside KeePass on Boxcryptor. > Password your KeePass Database. > Create a Key File for your KeePass Database and keep it on a USB.
It's not hard.
Zachary Thompson
I am right now, but since you have one maybe you can share your experience with it. Always good to ask.
Isaiah Turner
I have not had s problem with exchanges in ~4 years
Liam Scott
>> Create a Key File for your KeePass Database and keep it on a USB.
This is somehow easier than a hardware wallet, that has functions like shapeshift and the ability to create one time wallets and unique receipt addresses to mask where funds are being sent and received from?
David Kelly
>google drive
Colton Green
all muh keks
Oliver Smith
Reformatted computer with no Internet capabilities. How is this not secure?
Aiden Flores
I'm sure hardware wallets have some nice features, I'm just saying you don't need them to be secure.
Ethan Hill
Mt Gox.
How much do you hold on an exchange?
I had 80k on Polo, and it was an annoying 40 days to get it out.
Leo Lopez
It's really just all about how you store your recovery seed. Hardware wallet is just convenient if I want to access funds quickly and easily.
Jeremiah Rodriguez
nobody really knowing how hardware wallets work hahahahah
>Veeky Forums/biz/
Owen Hill
You can store on the cloud if you use an encryption service, requires trust though. Best to use an encryption service then have it passworded / key locked at the file level as well.
Aiden Smith
>Reformatted computer with no Internet capabilities. How is this not secure?
Cool that is. Is it easy and are you able to take a device that is protected by a pin (or 25 word pass phrase) any where in the world with no chance of anyone accessing your crypto?
True, but it is secure and it is easy to use. The amount of posts you see on here
'I formatted my HDD with my keys'
'I forgot my recovery seed' etc etc.
Benjamin Walker
Alright I'll buy a new computer on the black market, format it and and never plug it to the net. Start up minecraft offline then mine my private key in the ground which can only be viewed and recognized from a certain spot, write down the coordinates and roll the paper into my fake back tooth. Then I'll teleport away from the spot and use the bed. I'll store away the map into a fresh USB drive which I'll then tape to my anus.
Done.
Jace Morales
Or you can use a cheap hardware wallet.
Colton Robinson
But muh shitcoins, there are no hardware wallets for muh shitcoins.
Dominic Flores
What if it's stolen by aliens?
Owen Cruz
>But muh shitcoins, there are no hardware wallets for muh shitcoins.
That would be point number two, drop the shitcoins... I did, and now I can sleep at night.
You use your recovery seed and recover your wallet.
Juan Kelly
let's say that my drive account is compromised, you seriously think someone will look inside the code of each stupid photo i have stored on there?
Landon Cook
6 figures in crypto stored on the same machine that I use to look at porn.
AMA.
Gavin Ortiz
>AMA
How do you sleep at night.
Alexander Miller
Tell you what, once I have a lot of BTC I'll get a hardware wallet.
Juan Bennett
>You use your recovery seed and recover your wallet.
Fair point, I have 11 and the 30 eth, that was when I decided to get serious about security.
4. reset your ledger so yo have to confirm your seed
5. buy a thick as fuck hard to lose book
6. write down your seed in the book(word 1 and page 10 word 2 on page 20 etc)
8. burry the book in the woods or something if you want to
now you are safe
Tyler Ortiz
Wouldn't ETH hardware wallet also store ERC20 tokens?
Logan Hernandez
The recovery seed method is inviting disaster.
I bought a safe off gumtree, 150kg RRP of around 2k with all the correct ratings etc.
Somewhere to keep your passports and important docs as well.
Hunter Bell
>ERC20 tokens
Trezor uses myetherwallet, but stores your private keys on the device.
So yes, it can secure any tokens etc supported by myether wallet.
Gavin Ortiz
>buy ledger nano >lose it the next day >bury book in the woods >forget location
all my moni gone, user. thanks a lot.
Grayson Long
Under rated 10/10
Josiah Jenkins
not to mention some rich jew decides to build a castle in the woods and your book is now guarded by fucking dobermans
Julian Walker
What if I get killed though? Is there a recovery password for that?
Jaxson Cruz
Yes. It's "I accept Jesus as my lord and savior".
Juan Sanchez
I tell myself that mac + ublock is safe enough.
Henry Long
I got a tattoo of my recovery seed.
Anthony Smith
My investment is 300 so I cant justift buying 100 to protect it.
I think cold storage on a linux server is fine
Matthew Perry
>My investment is 300 so I cant justift buying 100 to protect it. >I think cold storage on a linux server is fine
That makes sense. I think anything more than 0.5 BTC needs a hardware wallet though.
Nicholas Richardson
You have fucking peanuts kid you don't need to bother with a trezor unless u got 50k+ or something
Xavier Edwards
Kek
Brody Bennett
I've had my trezor private key displayed on my computer screen I'm sure anyone with screen mirroring could've seen my shit, no? My key could potentially leak?
Jayden Roberts
Now they will you fucking doofus
Anthony Young
My cousin trades crypto on a 2013 LG tablet and iPhone 5c. He has no PC. He has 5 btc on bittrex and like 15 on Gemini
Carter Stewart
You mean like this?
Zachary Gomez
Yes I store my veriniggertaseum shittokens on my trezor. That fucking nigger better not squander my cash
Ayden Flores
If that is what he can afford to lose, more power to him.
Owen Perez
That's still fucking nothing I know people who trade on tablets with more skin in the game. No point in trezor unless you have 21 btc+ you little faggot
Jackson Bailey
You know people? So you've got nothing?
haha angry t-nocoiner detected.
It in fact puts me well within the top 0.66 percent of bitcoin holders in the world.
EADC.
Eli Thompson
No ones losing anything there's no point in storing little bits on trezor and spending transfer fees anytime you wanna exchange for shit coin. Unless of course you got 21btc and you're just gonna sit on it and ignore it/ not flip it
Carson Ortiz
No one advised anyone to store 'small bits' on the Trezor.
I maintain on polo my trading stock.
I have a nano ledger for my mined BTC .
Everything has its place, everything is compartmentalised.
Xavier Reed
Man I don't post my shit on a underground Taiwanese novelty dildo appreciation forum. How about I just rob you when btc is really gonna kick off? You don't know what I'm gonna rob you with cus I don't post my fucking aresnal online
James Lee
If you can rob peoples hardware wallets I would hope you go for far bigger fish than me my friend.
Juan Gomez
Where'd you get your ledger nano you fucking pussy. Do you prefer trezor for larger sums and ledger for smaller? Polo is gay they go down too much
Aiden Rogers
Bruh you said it here yourself. You'll be top 60% of the 1%. Why wouldn't I rob you and boost myself to top 1/3 of 1%??? Of course I'm not gonna rob you irl but you better start thinking of these scenarios. Its about to get wild wild West when btc is 13.5k+ in February
Jaxson Brown
Trezor or Nano Ledger?
Parker Barnes
Please explain this to security-pajeet;
- How is hardware wallet SECURE, couldn't those hardware wallet manufacturers throw in some back doors in their chippy chips and sticks?
How the fuck are people comfortable with buying Le Secure Crypto USB and putting their money there, in this day n age where we KNOW, for a fact, NSA's been putting backdoors on routers by infiltrating production facilities, for years now...
Enlighten me.
William Brooks
>USB stick >>you will have exposed it all to teh big bad internetz. retard confirmed
Jose Peterson
You can look up the fags who developed trezor and you have your private key. That's pretty much the whole point, have your private key
Alexander Brown
It is safe to buy a nano s from a third seller on Amazon ?
Noah Brown
>all my holdings are stake coins
Holding my coins in a hardware wallet would literally earn me nothing. until they allow hardware wallets to stake I'm not involved
Mason Moore
You can definitely do this. The only point to trezor is you can't access the bit without putting in the sequence on the lil screen. Apparently its super hacker malware proof I don't know maybe its a gimmick but I've heard nothing but positive stuff about it. Id say absolutely safestbis paper wallet in a safe
Chase Sanchez
audibly giggled
Austin Morgan
What's wrong with myetherwallet?
Luke Lopez
look you can probably get by with myetherwallet if you are careful.
i have trezor and i like it. but if i lose that then i lose everything
Jeremiah Jackson
Metal wallets are better than paper wallets. Engraving tools only cost $20 or so.
Tyler Martinez
so why not just handwrite it?
Charles Smith
What's the quickest safest way to create paper wallet?
>you don't need a trezor unless you have $50k+ gets shown $50k+ >hurrrrrr you got shit you don't need trezor until 21 btc like my imaginary friend hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr