Are "coding boot camps" worth it?
I went to school for a meme degree and learned nothing and now have a $13 an hour job at 26 with no upward mobility.
I want to switch to a comfy desk job where I can plug in headphones and code away for $80k a year.
Also dubs decides which language to learn.
C#
go. op pic related is c# community.
Jake?
COBOL
Also how fast could I learn if I devoted 6 hours a day to it. My goal is to have my shit together by next year
I went from 10 an hour no dev to 19 an hour dev to 62k dev in 5 months.
No degree, no bootcamp.
It took me about a year and a half to get my first dev job though. Things can move fast after getting your first dev job if you let it.
I don't even know any languages though. I need that to get my first Dev job.
The most I've done is built some iPad apps from tutorials.
Also what language?
Research job listings in your area.
I started in PHP.
Start learning javascript because it's used everywhere these days. Another nice thing about javascript is you can practice it anywhere because Chrome and Firefox have good development tools already built in to the browser. Once you know javascript well it's easy to pick up other languages.
I'm gonna piggy back off of op. What should I practice to take my text book knowledge into real world application? I understand all the basics but putting those together and making something useful is still over my head. Hopefully that makes sense.
I'm in the middle of a web dev bootcamp. I've learned a ton of things in a very short amount of time. Honestly you can't really go wrong with Javascript. Whatever you language you do choose though make sure you study and prepare as much as possible before the bootcamp starts. The bootcamp won't turn you into a developer like magic. You have to put in a incredible amount of effort to become a decent developer.
How much is incredible are we talkin here. And which bootcamp are you in?
I'm in the Galvanize Web Dev Immersive.
It's 6 months long which is twice as long as the normal bootcamp but the difference is most 3 month bootcamps just teach how to do things at a job or the 3 month bootcamp will have such strict entry requirements that you're basically a programmer already if you can get in.
>How much is incredible are we talkin hour.
I'm talking you sacrifice most of your personal time and dedicating it to either learning how to use new tools or working on personal projects to go on your portfolio. There's a huge misconception among people that get into these bootcamps that the bootcamp will just magically turn them into developers with awesome salaries with minimal effort. That is not the case. You will have to learn a lot of shit in a small amount of time. There is hardly any room for fucking around.
Once you have a decent portfolio and land your first job it does get easier though. Although you will feel like a brainlet compared to other developers for a while.
It's not me.
I know the basics of web development, and how to do some jQuery stuff. I'm nervous about pursuing this route though because web developers don't make a ton from what I recall
Can I download this free online
I am brand new to Veeky Forums, from Veeky Forums. I have never sought to make money in my life, considering it at best a tool to transition into forms of greater value, experience, and wisdom through education and time better spent. That said, I have a girlfriend I love and will be moving to China in about 8 months. I have exactly one connection to someone in the import/export business there and am looking to get in.
I've only taken college micro and macroeconomics. Any info on how this business model works, what best I can do to succeed in the field, and how best to approach the situation would be much appreciated. Can offer a terabyte of loli porn in exchange.
Short list of things that could help me:
-White male American with U.S. passport, perfect English with limited Chinese.
-Girlfriend's Dad is in Chinese Government, governor of a town just outside a major city.
-I can move and shake with the best of them, manipulate a conversation and make a friend.
-Hyper-analytical, I can take apart a system I've never seen before, understand it, and improve it.
-Background in statistical analysis and neuroscience, can do stats by hand, quickly.
D-delet this!
do you guys think tech certs are worth it?
like CCNA?
>White male
>Dating chink
I'm 22, so it's likely not permanent. I don't have a fetish. I'm looking to either make money or continue my education while I'm in China, y'know, generally not be a NEET.
>mfw all of these besides suicide describe me
holy fucking shit that's so accurate, I also have huge eyes
yes its worth it if you're willing to work hard for it. i went from minimum wage retail worker with no college degree to 100k job in the bay area.
i went to hack reactor and it was great. took about 10 months from starting to learn how to program to getting the job. had no life outside of programming during that time, but it works
i want to be a cyber security master like the great John McAfee
Make connections with small businesses owners, offer to hook them up with cheap Chinese products
almost all describe me except i was bullied a bit because of my appearance (shifted between being overweight and super skinny a few times throughout middle and highschool) and don't have big eyes. Also not very attractive, like 5.5/10. Barely ever consider suicide either.
Other than that perfect match.
Probably, especially if their cheap.
Bigger companies like that stuff
lol totally me, also want to get my shit togehter in the next 12 months
if you want to work at a VAR or if you have no other actual experience...
what is a VAR?
i have no experience iv been working blue collar shit jobs and need to get the fuck out.
i figure the certs would look good on my resume and they only cost 150$
Value Added Reseller, it's what places like Cisco and MS sell their products through so they don't have to directly deal with smaller businesses. Usually only large businesses are allowed to directly purchase from the manufacturer
they're by no means bad to get but VARs are required by the companies products they sell to have staff with certain certifications per solution they're selling, for example: cisco.com
I personally don't hire based on if candidates have certs but a lot of places do
This is too close
For those of you who don't have a Comp Sci degree, but got decent paying coding jobs either through self-teaching or a bootcamp:
did you fake a CS degree or other credentials?
bump
Currently going through this
github.com
noice
Coding boot camps are for suckers. Much like a "day trader masterclass". You don't pay for that shit, like you don't pay to go on StackOverflow to look up the answer.
Depending on the bootcamp and its price, it *may* be a good ROI for you, especially when you are $13, and could make $45 in the future.
Mind you, you are competing with Computer Science degrees from your country, and yes, India too.
Are you ready to invest in your future? Can you make 20 hours of learning and building skills in the weekend? If so, Ill lay out a plan for you. If not, stop dreaming and procrastinating. Either work your 13$ job or go all-in. There is no in between.
no, just make a portfolio.. why would you lie if you can show your work, put your github on your resume and don't do stupid shit like lying about credentials
Oh god, a goofy white weeb with an Asian girlfriend. Please don't breed or else Elloit Rodger comes out of the pussy.
No faking. Actually played up the "high school dropout" meme. Seems to impress those who had it easy (both financially and mentally).
Get job offers now without them reading (or asking for) my CV. I forgot how many cocks I sucked to get to that stage, but that's where it is at for dropouts.
Ask yourself: what is harder? To get a Github project with 1000+ stars, or to get a CS degree? What do businesses care about more?
JavaScript is what you need. Don't listen to this idiots. ProofPic
>will be moving to China
You're fucked. Noone comes out of China unscathed. My only advice to you is do not do this.
Data science with Python is what you need. Then you'd know that number of searches for a language on StackOverflow is not indicative of language popularity, but of a poor language, with poor documentation, and requires multiple daily searches to do the most basic things.