Why were ancient greeks so gay?

Why were ancient greeks so gay?

It was a common thing back then, its started in the fertile crescent

they wanted to talk about philosophy and shit to someone they could fuck, but women weren't educated
also they saw women as meant for making children, so if they were just having fun they would do it with another man

This, it was like a bro thing
You chilled, drank some wine, talked about life and the world, maybe ate some dates, then you plowed your homies tight little ass

Not only back then, even in the sengoku period Nobunaga porked young boys.

Not to mention in Rome there were times when the older man in the relationship would essentially act as somewhat of a legal guardian and help raise the boy

They were time travelers and stumbled upon /d/.

extreme patriarchy
women being second tier humans
lack of abrahamic religions and their bullshit

Because it wasn't judged with fire, brimstone and extreme moral judgement.

That isn't to say it was fully accepted. kinaidos (effeminate men/men in passive sexual role) and katapugon were seen by many as men incapable of self control and slaves to hedonism and pleasure. I.e so much so that they would try and seduce other men's sons.

There was a moral component to engaging in gay behaviors (remember there was no gay identity only gay acts) but it was more that you were a hedonist and womanly in seeking pleasure over duty or self control. Ergo why Romans and Greeks were so vehemently against the male citizenry engaging in the passive role. It lowered you socially to the rank of a woman, slave, boy etc rather than a real man worthy of participating in public life.

Homosexuality being perfectly acceptable to ancient societies is a meme. It's surrounded by all sorts of conditions and caveats and exceptions.

>perfectly acceptable to ancient societies
That narrative fits some specific beliefs, but in actuality...
>According to contemporary opinion, Greek males who engaged in passive anal sex after reaching the age of manhood - at which point they were expected to take the reverse role in pederastic relationships and become the active and dominant member - thereby were feminized or "made a woman" of themselves.

whats wrong? not MAN enough to give your bro a brojob? fucking queer

they didn't want to leave their cozy city states to take women, so the lazy fucks grabbed what was close by

its like today , no one wants to leave the house so the fuck their gameing and drinking buddies

Some people saw it as a problem of physiognomy in the Aristotle inspired text "problems" it's argued that the testes basically send jizz to your ass to lubricate it rather than out your pee pee.

What an ancient dummy

Aristophanes' homo jokes are pretty funny. He talks about how barbarians judge how much of a man a man is by the quantity he can eat and drink. Some character then chimes in "just like Athenians judge 'laikasti' (cock suckers) and katapugones (feminine men)

He also has a few jokes about fags and prolapsed arseholes. (Euruprōktos)

Were traps a thing in Ancient Greece and Rome?

They didn't read the Dune Trilogy.

Why is OP so gay?

Not Greeks.

See: Nero.

This artist is gold, good taste