Behold, they are one people...

>no u

Gnosticism is cancer. I get livid at the thought of how right you think you are.

Abrahamic religion in general is cancer my dude

Correct. Knowing I am evil, and incapable of being good, I have taken the free gift God died to offer the world; the chance to be seen not as myself, but as the man who stands before me.

Christ Jesus.

Abraham started no religions, and you're following the devil's gospel: use your knowledge of good and evil to be like God.

Sound familiar?

It should. It's what the devil told Adam and Eve.

And you fell for it, hook line and sinker, thousands and thousands and thousands of years later.

How smart are you, really?

>"Look mom! I'm trolling Veeky Forums!"

This post wouldn't be considered trolling 7 years ago. And it shouldn't now.

That wasn't evil. Men weren't supposed to enter heaven alive, that's why he created them on Earth and gave them dominion of it. If God wanted mortal men in heaven he would've put them there

It's just jews making up shit because they saw Babylonians building massive ziggurats and they got jealous because they couldn't build shit like that
same reason why they had a hard on for egyptians

How about simply telling them they shouldn't come up there? That would be the good thing to do.

>expecting humans to do exactly what God tells them
Did you even read Genesis?

Christfags are mentally ill

>sheiiiit humans are doin some crazy shit nowadays
>if we let this go on they'll be able to do anything they put their mind to
>Shazam now nobody can understand eachother
>I'm the good guy tho

That doesn't make it the wrong thing to do and God is still in the wrong.

If god couldn't allow a tall tower why does he allow space travel?

>humans are doing something i do not want them to do
>i could kill them all horribly but they've not actually done anything wrong
>I'll just confuse their speech so nobody gets hurt
How is this evil? Did you forget that he is the LORD God, he rules over Man. God isn't there for kisses and cuddles, faggot
Don't see how
God changes his mind about stuff over time, read the Bible mate

It's ok when god does it.

>Don't see how
Tell them not to do it first. It's that simple. If your neighbors are playing loud music next door, you don't break their stereo.
>>i could kill them all horribly but they've not actually done anything wrong
So you're admitting this is an evil act? Then doesn't that prove the Flood was an evil act?

How does an eternal and omnipotent entity who trancends time and space change his mind over time? Wouldn't it already always know the truth about literally everything and thus hold opinions and stances alligned with his goals? Unless you're just saying that god is flippant about his desires.

>hurrr homogeneous world culture a good goy, let's all live under Nimrod's empire and build pillars to heaven because I said so

If you don't agree God did a good thing that day you don't belong on Veeky Forums. Reddit is waiting.

>le atheists have no morality
>yet Christfags are proving themselves to be morally autistic ITT

Under a warped morality, sure. But I'm not a bad person like you.

Jews.....making shit up before they existed.....that is corroborated in the Sumerian histories.....

/pol/ needs to gtfo

Why would they listen to God? Do you?

It is yeah, he's God. What the fuck are you gonna do about it?
>Tell them not to do it first
Telling humans not to do something leads to them doing it. Literally read the first 4 chapters of Genesis and then come back to the thread
>so you're admitting this is an evil act
When did i say that?
>doesn't that prove the flood was an evil act
No because the flood wiped out the wicked and spare the righteous (Noah and his family)

Choosing hell over heaven is mental illness.

If someone is wrong between you and God, bet everything you have it's you, and not God.

The third heaven is not above our two. The Babylonians were attempting to make a portal, and they would have succeeded.

He doesn't.

Please show me where in the Bible it says that God knows literally everything that will ever happen and doesn't change his mind about things

God doesn't exist stop believing in magic

In case you were curious, here's what happens when a human being enters into the third heaven through a portal, i.e. not the proper way:

“But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment. So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

“For many are called, but few are chosen.”

>God changes his mind about stuff over time, read the Bible mate
it's almost like God does whatever people in power want him to, to fit time and place

but what do I know

>Telling humans not to do something leads to them doing it.
That's irrelevant. God is still in the wrong, and I already explained how.
>When did I say that
You implied it when you said ">>i could kill them all horribly but they've not actually done anything wrong" and then after that "How is this evil?"
>No because the flood wiped out the wicked and spare the righteous (Noah and his family)
Babies aren't wicked.
I hope you don't have a lot to bet.

Hmmm don't think ANYONE would've wanted God to stop them from entering Heaven

All Mankind being under one power-structure means two things.

Firstly, it means they are much easier to control then if there were opposing power-structures.

Secondly, it means there is no alternative. If you don't like life in a given country or civilization you can, in theory, go somewhere else. The reach of the State doesn't reach everywhere.

Babel was confounded not because its persay a bad idea for all Mankind to be united, its because it gives the entire human race a single easily targeted weakness. In the modern world sin and Satan must corrupt hundreds of thousands of people to even influence the direction of Mankind, and any notion that he 'controls' us is pure conceit on his part.

Under Babel all he needs is one man's ear. Control the World-Ruler and you control the World-State. Control the World-State and you control Mankind.

And that is just the beginning, for Mankind's potential power is effectively without limit. Short of exceeding their Creator, there is nothing that is impossible for us. The Masters of the World could turn all Creation into a prison, and degenerate all Mankind into slaves. Alex Jones most deluded fever-dreams as hard reality, all because you thought giving the Human Race a kill-switch was a good idea.

>flood wipes out the wicked
>humanity is still wicked

According to Christians, all people who aren't "righteous" enough deserve the death penalty, even if they've never even killed anyone.

Isaiah 46
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
And I will do all My pleasure,’

Numbers 23:19
“God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?

I have the same chip you have. Your immortal soul.

Even after paradise on earth with Jesus reigning for a thousand years and everyone's needs and wants are filled, humanity is still wicked.

Here we fucking go. Shut up, cultist.

the penalty for crimes against God is death

we are all guilty of a multitude of crimes against God, and we all deserve death. Not just physical death; eternal, spiritual death. Death as in "separation from God, who is Life" death. Weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth; in the dark, and on fire, forever, eternal punishment death.

>wanting art and beauty is 'warped morality'

Only a satanist could say that. A satanist with eye toward NWO and one world culture in the whispered delusion that violence will cease when sufficient calves are slain at the altar of the mad techno-humanist vision.

I bet my soul that Jesus is who he says he is.

You're not even sure you have a soul. Who's in the devil's cult again?

You are, actually, because the standard is to be as perfect as the Father in heaven is perfect.

Neither of those things exist

>thinking there's real christian fundamentalists on Veeky Forums
do yourself favor and take a brake

>God is still in the wrong
How are you measuring "wrong"? Using Christian morals set out by God perhaps?
>you implied it
No i didn't, I meant that God could've horribly murdered everyone involved (which would be the evil choice) but didn't because they had not committed a sin
It wiped out the wicked of that time, brainlet
Plenty of reasons to put someone to death mate
>isaiah
Sorry where does it say that he knows literally everything? Humans have free-will lad, this is undisputed. God can know things that are not done because it is He that intends to do them, not humans
>numbers
Again, about what God will do, not Man

You're not even sure a microbe has a soul.

Of course a microbe doesn't have a fucking soul

>Plenty of reasons to put someone to death mate
And there are also plenty of reasons not to put someone to death, mate. Christians are morally bankrupt.

How do you know?

t. not a microbe

>literally "no u"
Grow up. Some people deserve to die, get over it
Not in the Bible
Thankfully

You don't exist.

>Not in the Bible
And? Are you a biblical literalist or something?

>life is shure easy when I define the parameters by a book

You're a cop out.

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength; His understanding is infinite.

1 John 3:20
in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue, Behold, O LORD, You know it all.

Matthew 10:30
"But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 147:4
He counts the number of the stars; He gives names to all of them.

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.

Psalm 139:1-4
O LORD, You have searched me and known me. You know when I sit down and when I rise up; You understand my thought from afar. You scrutinize my path and my lying down, And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

Psalm 44:21
Would not God find this out? For He knows the secrets of the heart.

1 Chronicles 28:9
"As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the LORD searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

Isaiah 40:28
Do you not know? Have you not heard? The Everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth Does not become weary or tired His understanding is inscrutable.

Psalm 139:1-3
O LORD, You have searched me and known me. You know when I sit down and when I rise up; You understand my thought from afar. You scrutinize my path and my lying down, And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

1 Kings 8:39
then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men,

I'm sure it doesn't.

From an anthropological perspective, it makes sense that God is perceived to be the un-doer of universal language. All gods are derived from nature; or should I say, all gods are derived from the environment of their adherents.
The Torah's God was more of the "coming of passage" from being one of many gods to being a single God.

Yahweh was literally born of a multicultural society; his morals are the morals of a highly political society. And when the Jews appropriated their faith, God once again became a tribal entity, still retaining the history of the society from whence he came.

>>Grow up. Some people deserve to die, get over it
Even if they've never killed anyone. Even if they're 11 months old. Even if it's a dog. Even if it's a ficus. I repeat, Christians are morally bankrupt, or they sacrifice their common sense to feed their cognitive dissonance.

How do you know?

God revealed himself to mankind. You don't have to guess.

Because it was spoken into existence, not made in the image of God.

If you take five seconds to think about it, you'd know that God is a construction of man
What's your justification and/or evidence for thinking this?

If you could think for more than five seconds, you would realize the universe requires a creator.

Knowledge revealed to mankind from God.

>If you could think for more than five seconds, you would realize the universe requires a creator.
If you would think for five seconds, you'd understand an agent for the universe's formation doesn't mean that it has to be a creator, or in other words, a conscious agent.

I guess you hit your five second limit again.

It does.

How?

>why do you reference religious texts when talking about aspects of religion?!
Are you having a fucking laugh?
All of this is humans praising God for their perception of His power. God never actually says that he knows everything ever at all times
>killing the wicked means you'd literally kill innocent children
>christfags btfo

I really don't care to baby step you through the fine tuning of the universe.

You're going to have to start thinking about things that matter, and that's a good first step.

>hey Nimrod, whatcha buildin?
>Nimrod: a stairway to heaven
>Elohim: wtf we need to stop this

Not him but state your argument plainly or don't post

>>killing the wicked means you'd literally kill innocent children
>>christfags btfo
You do know that the entire world was flooded correct? That includes children, who literally wouldn't have had enough time to do anything wrong.
Fine tuning isn't a good argument because it implies God isn't omnipotent. Something that caused the universe doesn't mean it had to be conscious.

>that includes children
If you actually read Genesis you'd know that everyone back in those days lived into their 900s, only had children at aged 40, and only had like 2. Highly possible that there were no children considering there weren't that many people around

LARPer spotted. Begone, satan.

Wot

It's a shame you do not know, or understand, that the bible was written under divine inspiration.

Jesus, who is God, said that He numbered the hairs on your head, and knows when a swallow falls out of the sky, dead. He said he knows the names and places and glories of all of the stars. He knows everything you need to survive, and provides them before you even ask.

He told this to Jeremiah:
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."

And he told this to Isaiah:
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways, says the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts (Isaiah 55)

Even if you seriously believe that, it still leaves animals and plants. God could have easily spread a disease that killed only humans.

The fine tuning of the universe, and the coded DNA that is in your cells, speak of an intelligent coder who works at constants we cannot even fathom.

Were the cosmological constant varied by 1 part in 10^120, there would be no life in the universe.

That's just one of the fine tuning constants. There are likely an infinite number, all of which have to be correct, or no life exists in the universe.

Sin causes disease, not God. Sin brought death, not God. Sin brought pain, and sorrow, and suffering, not God.

When God wanted to kill everything, he drowned the world.

Exodus clearly shows god being responsible for sending plagues.

Fair enough, I'll re-read Isaiah. Thanks for atleast providing scripture with your argument
That wasn't me. As I said, God changes his mind about stuff, which is why he promised never to do that again

Plagues are not diseases. They're plagues. And every single one of them was tailor made to ruin one of Egypt's demon gods.

God is capable of limiting himself, and he was sorrowful over creating the world right before he had to drown it and start over.

There is no instance of him changing his mind.

Then even he knows it was wrong to do. Yet he did it in the first place.
plague n. a contagious bacterial disease characterized by fever and delirium ...

Yes, that would describe bubonic plague.

Not a plague of frogs.

God decides what is right and wrong, not you. We may have knowledge of good and evil but it's not for us to shape it
Is it wrong to kill 1 innocent to save 1000?

You keep trying to understand God without knowing him at all.

Do you do that with people? Are you successful?