Fall of feudalism

While all of the above are very important stepping stones for the end of feudalism, I think that the establishment of a relatively fast communication network (and, of course, the printing press) in the XVI century(I.e. modern postal service) was the final blow to the system: being able to communicate in a timely manner on state level allows to do without feudal lord in your administration.
(britannica.com/topic/postal-system)

makes no sense, 14-19th century were completely a period of strong feudalism, feudal systems flourished all the way to 1918

>feudal systems flourished all the way to 1918
Nobility and aristocracy survived till 1918 but serfs definitely did not. Feudalism (whatever was left of it) died in Europe when Russia abolished it in 1861.

Many historians contest that there was even a system known as "feudalism". For example when you look at its origins you go back to the Roman latifundia system. Also the Franco-Norman manorial system was anything but universal in Europe, there were a fuckload of variations and Byzantines never even had feudalism to begin with.

nominaly yes, but in most of europe various classes of nobility were well established under monarhic regimes till the empires collapsed after ww1, in austria, brittain, germany, spain, russia, the nobility was still a major class, and the relations werent much different, socialy and economicaly, even if politically they had less and less power

This.

Also, feudalism is often described as being a political system based on the personal relation between lord and vassal. However when I read about medieval Europe it seems like the diets of the estates were a much more important political system for the governance of the country.

Oh serfs absolutely did survive, all the way to the 18th century. The peasant/farmer rural population in Europe was something like 80% of the population, and many point to a tremendous harvest failure and ensuing famine as one of the causes of the French revolution.In eastern europe, serfdom persisted for an even longer time.

These are problems in historiography which are not easily resolved by titles or categorization. Middle-ages are very hard to pin down as an era, because the social and political transitions are not obvious or apparent. until much later.

Revolutions brought it down. First in America. Later everywhere else. That's the one thing Americans can be really proud of.

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fudealism is a brand of slavery. If you're wondering when it went away, it was around up until the fall of the soviet union in Europe. Christian dogs suffer their fate for turning their backs on The God of the Jews. And worshiping an abomination instead.

Isn't Feudalism just Federalism with swords?

No because they didn't have a constitution or a centralised state to enforce state laws, instead they had diets, rights, privileges and statues.

>fudealism is a brand of slavery.

Feudalism ended in the early 20th century for Europe with the Bolchevik revolution in Russia destroying all feudal dues.

The Black Death fundamentally changed the economic dynamic of European society.

The loss of half of the working class meant that for the first time since the fall of Rome, the supply of workers was less than the demand for workers. The nobility had to compete for skilled labor, meaning that wages above the subsistence level began being paid and an urban middle class was created that eventually sparked the Renaissance.

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There never was such a thing as "feudalism."

Nobody really knows anymore. At this point the term is only used seriously by commies who needs the oversimplification for historical materialism to work

Feudalism is a system of oppression by the church and the aristocracy.

A perfect example for

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Gunpowder didn't make knights irrelevant.

The better infantry organization and the ability to amass large armies did.

That said, the knights themselves still have very important battlefield roles to play: that as heavy cavalry. Men wearing their kind of armor were still a very potent threat.

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Feudalism was killed off by the rise of modern nation states.
So whatever causes the rise of nation states, was responsible fot feudalism's decline.

Basic evolution 101. A nation state is infinitely much stronger than a feudal confederacy

>A nation state is infinitely much stronger than a feudal confederacy
Nation states have yet to prove their longevity vs. monarchies and empires. So far they only have 200 years.

Hell, there are a lot of """"""nation-states"""""" nowadays that do not fit the definition. USA, Russia, India, and China to be specific.

How do Russia and China not fit the definition

Because those two are still multiracial Empires masquerading as modern nation states.

Russia is mostly Russian, and most of the non-Russians are those who emigrated to Russia in the past 50 years.

"Mostly" doesn't cut it. Chinese are "mostly" Han but the fact of the matter is there are still very large culturally/racially distinct minorities within it to shit on any notion of it being a nation state.

Besides by its own admission Russia isn't a nation state. It's a federation.

There are very few nation states that can truly claim having one culture and one race. Japan is one of them.

But that's different for Russia. Practically every person of Russian ethnicity speaks Russian and considers themselves Russians. There aren't any major Russian subcultures in Russia.

Wasn't the Reinassance only really a thing in like, Italy, among the already super-wealthy?

>Practically every person of Russian ethnicity speaks Russian and considers themselves Russians. There aren't any major Russian subcultures in Russia.
Nigger, there are constitutionally recognized ethnicities and entire ethnic republics within Russia's federation. Russia is not ethnically homogeneous.

Federalised highly autonomous territories controlled by a hereditary executive with original competence in both legislative and judiciary shared with the christian church.
A system with reciprocal obligations between a Vassal and a Lord.
Highly hierarchical
A system were the owners of the means of production -fields- control the workers - farmers, serfs-

as more people got wealthy and could afford wepaons such as merchant classes concesions had to be made. it was more a fall of divine right monarchy than fudalism proper as there were still nobles owning land and people working it with varying degrees of expanded freedoms

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Wtf are you talking about? You're joking right?

should have said *gallops behind you*

Obviously it's Black Death
Without that then you still have an abundance of labourers and so can give them the bare minimum
Also reformation reaching as far as it did kinda fucked up europe

The fall of the knight is the invention of the wheelock pistol, as it meant heavy Calvary could be killed face on and reliably
Brace of pistols > muskets until at least 1800

Feudalism took centuries to fall out of favor as an institution, but its fall was at a snails pace as leaders and nations reformed and the ability to govern directly became more achievable through incremental advancements.

The Fall of Constantinople and the end of the 100 years war that same year triggered the decline of Feudalism as a system of governance as recruiting knights as a noble class for warfare simply couldn't keep up with the rise of cannons as a common piece of war equipment. Further advancements such as the printing press made communication easier, and thus being able to directly govern a land through a central administration was now achievable rather than leaving the land to vassal lords to oversee law at the local level. The Protestant Reformation also kneecapped the power of the Catholic Church and the ultimate result of the Reformation with the Peace of Westphalia gave rise to the idea of the Nation State, united by common identity rather than loyalty to a regent.

Those three major factors over the course of 250 years all culminated into the rise of Absolutism, a monarch or hegemon who exercised full authority within their borders, which was a deathblow to the intrinsically decentralized nature of a feudal state and society, and I'd argue that the rise of the absolute monarch with Louis XIV really spelled the end of feudal society as a governmental system for a continent that was changing with the times, and later with the fully stated absolution of Feudalism being signed in writing as a result of the French Revolution.

>implying gunpowder didn't allow for large armies to be amassed
Gunpowder was what allowed this development. Prior to gunpowder, a person had to be taught from birth how to fight (at least effectively). Training an effective knight took a lifetime and training a longbowman still took fucking years and if you lost a large amount of them in a catastrophic defeat, it'd take years to replace them. With gunpowder, you could teach a peasant farmer how to shoot in a straight line in a matter of weeks, or days if the circumstances called for it. Although Rome and other pre-medieval societies used mass armies and didn't rely on elite knights, European societies did, and ultimately it became worthless when the brave, elite knights that you spent 20+ years training that made up the bulk of your army could get shot to death by a peasant who'd never seen combat and only learned how to shoot a month prior. Agincourt made people realize that ranged weapons were the future and gunpowder ultimately made it so that you could crank out large numbers of easily-replaceable ranged weapon equipped soldiers instead of having to teach people for years to master a longbow.

you get exponentially less "Renaissance-esque" as you move away from wealthy Italian and Danish cities

Changes at the base level of feudal production, especially in agriculture, had a major impact on the end of feudalism. In particular the battle over enclosure policies and the commons fundamentally altered the daily lives of most European people.

The rise of professional standing armies giving an edge to centralized authorities maybe? Not even being sarcastic, it's just a guess.

But japan doesn't have one race. One culture maybe. But not one race.

It also took years to train someone to be *competent* with firearms or pikes. That's why you see a huge increase in mercenary forces.

>feudal systems flourished
They survived, but they certainly didn't flourish in comparison to highly centralized states like Britain and France

The time investment for an effective pike and shot formation was still significantly less than the investment for anything else at the time.

Black Plague was definitely a cause

Don't both Korea's count?
Are you talking about the Ainu?