Old Testament God

Old Testament God
>Is not alive and thus cannot die. Has no blood and thus cannot bleed.
>Has no gender or form
>Cares only for one race of people
>Is the source of all good and evil (Isaiah 45:7)
>No after-life. Only conquest in the material world matter
>Relationship with God is formed by a contract with the father of all Jews, Abraham. Great power inexchange for exclusive worship by all his descendants
>It's "messiah" is prophecied to be from a pure blood of the most Jewish of all Jews. He will be merciless general that will allow the Jews to enslave their enemies and conquerer many lands
>Known for it's extreme cruelity, low level of forgivness harsh punishments and short term. Punishes the group for infractures by individuals.
>Humans sacrifice to God
>Greatest moment of wraith: Genocided 99.999% of all life on earth. Condemned the survivors to spend 40 days trapped in a tiny wooden vessel with no day light.

New Testament God
>Can bleed and die
>Distinctily a man and has a body
>Cares for all races of people
>Is the source of all good in the world but is it war with an evil God called Satan (New Testament calls Satan, God on multiple occassions)
>The most after-life focused religion ever made. Material world is inferior.
>Relationship with God is formed by mere faith or in some of the more ambitious versions doing some charity work
>It's followers despise the followers of the Jewish God
>It's "messiah" is of dubious blood-lines and called himself "the prince of peace" and loves mercy. He has come to free people and liberate the lands
>Known for it's extreme kindness and forgivness . Punishes individuals for individuals infractures
>God sacrifices to humans
>Greatest moment of wraith: Once kicked over some tables

How the fuck did people think these two are the same God. They are fucking Yin and Yang

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christianity from what I know about it is only jewish in terms of its starting roots and the old testament

judaism, on the other hand, is much more theologically sound and more interesting to me as a deist/agnostic. To know that their version of God is something beyond time and space is more comforting to me than a God of the flesh as I don't trust humans. (if Christianity is right, I'm sorry God for typing this out)

>>Is not alive and thus cannot die. Has no blood and thus cannot bleed.
He is the Living God

>>Has no gender or form
He is a man and has beard

>Cares only for one race of people
Nothing wrong with that

>Is the source of all good and evil (Isaiah 45:7)
Good for its people evil for outsiders

>No after-life. Only conquest in the material world matter
There is Sheol although it is not comparable to the Indo-European Paradise

Wordly matters > Spiritual BS

>Relationship with God is formed by a contract with the father of all Jews,
Kikes aren't Hebrews, they are European mongrels

>It's "messiah" is prophecied to be from a pure blood of the most Jewish of all Jews. He will be merciless general that will allow the Jews to enslave their enemies and conquerer many lands
Again kikes aren't Hebrews

>Known for it's extreme cruelity, low level of forgivness harsh punishments and short term. Punishes the group for infractures by individuals.
Better than turning the other ass-cheek

>Humans sacrifice to God
It is forbidden actually

>Greatest moment of wraith: Genocided 99.999% of all life on earth. Condemned the survivors to spend 40 days trapped in a tiny wooden vessel with no day light.
BASED

Op you are wrong, there is an afterlife in Judaism, its just not a focus, and God does care about all people in Judaism, it's just a tribal religion so the focus is on the Jews, just like in Native American traditions, their God(s) apply to all life but have a focus on themselves.

no prob

>>Humans sacrifice to God
It is forbidden actually

Didn't the temple priests do daily animal sacrifices to God? It only stopped because the conditions required for the sacrifice could no longer be met. The temple was destroyed and the priestly blood-line became muddled.

>european jews are hebrews, anyone can convert to Judaism. Judaism is a religion based around a nation

Nope

Actual Hebrews would slaughter you like they did for Canaanite subhumans

An example of Old Testament God's collective and cruel punishment.

One time a small minority of the population began looking to other Gods and aboundening the customs and culture of their tribe.

The Old Testament God punished them by condemning to wander for 40 years in a desert in circles. He would conjure a bread like substance called mana and enchanted Mose's staff so it could cause water to flow from rocks. So they were living off bread and water and not even abudant bread and water but God rationed how much they could get. On the Sabbath he would send fat, low-flying, slow birds so if his people wanted meat in their diet they would have to chase after the birds and pelt them with sticks or rocks...so IF they can catch the birds they get meat once a weak.

So not only does the minority get this punishment but every person in the tribe and 2 generations of children. 40 years eating bread, water, and a scarce amount of meat while going in circles inside a desert.

Old Testament God is hardcore.

OT god is actually satan and NT God is the real God

Satan as a 'bad guy' is only a New Testament idea. That is where God is in a war against 'evil'. While the Old Testament God is far less moralizing. Satan doesn't even oppose God in the Old Testament he serves him and takes order, like in Job.

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>How the fuck did people think these two are the same God.

It's just a big scam by traitors to the Empire - the people who invented these false gods knew exactly who they were betraying.

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Why isn't it possible that God had a change of heart?

It's not just the attitude. It's a total inversion of values. Furthermore it's a different type of God in their form.

>Old Testament

Why are you not just calling it the Bible?

Jews follow the Bible, Christians follow the New Testament, nobody follows the Old Testament.

Shiva does similar things.

Interestingly enough the people that follow the Old Testament have come to dominate those that follow the New Testament. On one hand you have a group of people that see victory as something that happens in the material world (the Jews). On the other hand you have the Christians that forfeit the material world and bank everything on the after-life. It's clear why the Jews win out.

Jewish God is interesting because he belongs to the older generations of deities. You can trace the name Yawhei to the Babylonian society. So it's roots stretch back to very early civilization. It's main prophet Moses, was also schooled in Egyptian thought.

The Gods too belong to the older ways. Which is why they are so terrifying.

Older ways as in the vedas?

>You can trace the name Yawhei to the Babylonian society.
no you cant
> It's main prophet Moses, was also schooled in Egyptian thought.
moses didn't exist, and the people who created him weren't schooled in egyptian thought

>moses didn't exist, and the people who created him weren't schooled in egyptian thought

>implying Moses wasn't an Egyptian younger prince who inherited a few thousand random slaves and convinced them to join him in the desert because he wanted his own kingdom and then invented being Jewish

you forgot
>OTG : demands your dick to be mutilated
>God:loves you and by the words of his son "Hell will be his absence" not fires etc.Also supports you and a healthy sexual life for all even the most cowards in society

more likely one of the exiled akenaton priests that decided to take his serfs with him.

yawhei was a volcanic local god and them peasant nigger serfs worshiped him after they murdered the priest named Moses for a couple generation and conquering the previous worshipers .


Then they got butraped in a few battles and they decided that they were being punished for their wrong worship .
Enter new leader who overtakes the name " moses" as a title and re-introduces Moses teaching's of Akenaton .
But peasant nigger serfs are no longer serfs and peasants 100%.
So in classic "found a religion-starterkit" fashion the "moses" 2 preaches that yahwe was same as Akenaton

That's Freud's idea. I don't think it holds up well.

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Can I pray to OT God as a Christian?

That's what happens when you try to mix the Bibles and theologies of different, competing sects into a single official church. It's like if I combined Coke and Pepsi into a single drink and said it's always had the same formula.

just merge the diet versions, nobody will know the difference.

You should do that

It's more like mixing Guinness and Corona.

>>Has no gender or form
OT God is usually, though not always, gendered as male and made Man (Adam) in his image.

>No after-life.
Sheol

>Relationship with God is formed by a contract with the father of all Jews, Abraham. Great power inexchange for exclusive worship by all his descendants
Really only the descendants of Jacob/Israel, not all of Abraham's descendants.

>>Cares for all races of people
Jesus wasn't all that concerned with gentiles, that was Paul.

You are right though, the contrast between Jesus and Yahweh is extreme.

>To know that their version of God is something beyond time and space is more comforting to me
Their God literally lived in a box lmao

Because they come from different time periods, the generalized correct course of action is different as well. In tribal times you had to be savage as a matter of self defense, but under Pax Romana there was peace between neighboring groups of people.

Under Rome there were also bigger cities, so people came into contact with strangers more often. It wasn't just 1 tribe and 1 campfire where there was probably a strict social ladder, there were markets, farmers and various trade workers who all came into contact with eachother. That was a new mode of living and had new ideal behavior. You needed to get along with your neighbors and end feuds with them.

In tribal times if you turned the other cheek to another tribe they would interpret that as a weakness and probably steal all your livestock. However under Rome there were courts and either cohortes urbanae or legionarres who worked as police.