Were the English and Welsh the only people to have used the longbow in war en masse? Why didn’t Yuropoors use it much?
Were the English and Welsh the only people to have used the longbow in war en masse? Why didn’t Yuropoors use it much?
Levi Flores
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Andrew Mitchell
Because it's largely a meme.
This is like asking why the Taliban don't use Bradleys or why Americans don't use Kalashnikov rifles: because it's not compatible with their logistics, and troop types and dispositions.
Joseph Howard
>largely a meme
>meme
I can't wait until people stop using this term in this context. It means nothing.
Nolan Ross
>Agincourt was a meme
Samuel Green
Arrows and crossbows are coward's weapons
Ryan Taylor
it was made from english yew trees, it was in use for a pretty short while and also >because it's not compatible with their logistics, and troop types and dispositions.
the longbow was also more a weapon to damage morale of charging troops and a device to cause certain troops to rout than an actual killing weapon.
Chase Sullivan
>Why didn't anyone else used puddles to assassinate kings? Just look at Barbarossa.
Henry Harris
Pretty meaningless opinion given how effective they were
Ryan Harris
Then I guess living is cowardly
Joshua Morris
Because the Self-Bow (bow made out of a single piece of wood) was an inherently primitive concept, with most of the European continent either jerking off to either crossbows or composite bows.
The Longbow was the result of backwards ass Welshmen using the selfbow for a very very long time, eventually coming up with a very good design.
Aiden Brooks
>given how effective they were
So, how effective they were?
Tyler Perry
That said: Longbowmen from England were valued as Mercenaries abroad.
Jason Fisher
Agincourt is the perfect example of Anglos vastly overrating the relevance of every moment of their history. It's Westcentrism.
Aiden Thompson
Well they were used by every single military which had access to them, so draw your own conclusions
Nicholas Ross
Because at the end of 100 years war longbow were already outdated.
Jeremiah Cox
Based La Hire
Josiah Anderson
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Jack Nguyen
Agincourt was the turning point from medieval combat to modern combat, easily one of the most significant battles of the last few centuries
Matthew Thompson
t. lindybeige
Kayden Lee
YEW LONGBOWS CAN'T PIERCE STEEL PLATE
Ethan Sanders
> Agincourt was the turning point from medieval combat to modern combat, easily one of the most significant battles of the last few centuries
Fucking lol no.
The French still continued with their heavy cavalry obsession until the 16th century.
Hell, they were charging pike formations at the battle of Ravenna ffs;
Benjamin Hughes
>Were the English and Welsh the only people to have used the longbow in war en masse
No, it was used throughout Europe until replaced by the crossbow in Western Europe and the crossbow and composite bow in Eastern Europe.
But as the Brits were were on the fringes of civilization, they hung on to it longer.
Jason Rodriguez
Did he really said that? Because I saw some youtube video stating the very similar thing
>From now on cavalry and armours stopped being used and missile weapons started to rule battlefields.
Adrian Hall
not an argument
Dominic Campbell
It marked the decline of the use and of the importance of cavalry, and the rise of missile units.
Of course they didn't fucking stop using cavalry the next day, that's not what turning point means.
Connor Sullivan
>Hey, remember the hundred years war?
>YEAH WE KICKED THE FRENCH ASS AT AGINCOURT!
>You know they lost the war right?
>wut?
Elijah James
t. leonidas
Hudson Cruz
But it didn't.
Leo Ortiz
but it did
Robert Lee
In what fucking way. It weren't even bows what won battle of Agincourt.
Hunter Price
>It marked the decline of the use and of the importance of cavalry, and the rise of missile units.
It wasn't Agincourt, it was Castillon, and it wasn't missiles, it was cannon.
Landon Sullivan
Most firearms at the time would be handguns and various hand held culverins.
Field artillery did not come into prominence until the 1480s.
Kevin Sullivan
>what is Pavia
lol
Jonathan Perry
He types, in English
Charles Hall
In American English.
John Lewis
Britons had superior Longbows which they trained at their castles. By contrast the French only had throwing axemen, but they made up for it by having strong paladins from their stables.
Joseph Nelson
>It marked the decline of the use and of the importance of cavalry, and the rise of missile units.
Heavy cavalry has been put in place by organised infantry formations fielding pole-arms. That is what broke the dominance of heavy cavalry on the battlefield and it happened way before Agincourt. That being said: heavy cavalry still was an important aspect of war, just not any more the dominating force it was during the high middle ages.
What happens when missile units face heavy cavalry without fortifications or infantry to protect them could be seen at the Battle of Patay: en.wikipedia.org
Archers could not bring a cavalry charge to halt.
Michael Nelson
What the fuck? Crecy and Poitiers were both very similar battles far earlier. The longbows weren't the decisive factor, and most of the French men-at-arms advanced on foot.
You're a loony.
James Moore
Belgians and Dutch shooting guilds deployed longbowmen. They were used in both offensive and defensive war as elite burgher-militias.
They got replaced by arquebusiers and crossbows over the 15th century.