Schlieffen plan

Do you think it would have made more sense if Germany went through Switzerland instead if Belgium to get to France?

Switzerland would have just let them by, and even if they didn't, they had no allies. so Britain would have been out of the war.

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you need to think more, brainlet

Let me guess, they don't want to cross the alps?

too many mountains
I am sure Shlieffen conider attack from switzerland

>attack through Switzerland
>Italy and America immediately join the allies because Germany just fucking broke neutrality even more sacred then Belgium

Switzerland is a peaceful nation that hates war.
They would have let Germany passed like Luxembourg did.

U R dumb for a plethora of reasons.

Switzerland would not have just let them though; they are a ferociously independent people with a militia culture, they would have fought back.
The entire country is a massive mountain range with a large river separating from Germany, making it nearly impossible to invade.
The UK would have went to war literally no matter what. If you think they joined JUST because of Muh Belgium you are a child.
Swiss Neutrality was taken even more seriously than Belgian Neutrality, so the Brits would still use the Neutrality excuses if they felt so inclined, not they needed to other than for propaganda reasons.
The entire point of the Schlieffen Plan was to get to Paris fast. The Swiss terrain is so shitty that it would have take years to get through it, and most importantly, ITS THE WRONG FUCKING WAY FROM PARIS.

Attacking Switzerland would be an excuse for all countries to join in against Germany if they want

they have best civil military in die welt bro
i bet they had it during WW1

In that case, why didn't anyone give a shit about Luxembourg?

>Switzerland
Dropped right there.
Switzerland has been agreed on internationally to be a permanently neutral nation, no one would try to break the neutrality.

>invade
Please stop using that word,
Germany simply wants to pass through, NOT occupy Switzerland!

Because it's not subject to the Treaty of London

THIS mein nigger, Willy was even offering the Belgian king to become king of burgundy, but he turned it down because he hated French people and didn't want more of them in his kingdom

Then why was French an official language in Belgium?

Would still mean they'd have to break neutrality in favor of one side, which was and still is strictly illegal by international law.

What? They could have let France pass through to.

What part of "inviolate" is so hard for you to understand?

It is not favoring one side if they let both sides through.

So the whole word then?

>neu·tral adjective 1.not helping or supporting either side in a conflict, disagreement, etc.; impartial.
by letting them pass through they are helping/supporting them even if they are helping both sides. This argument is completely fucking pointless though as literally in no alternate universe or situation would Switzerland willingly let a country pass through it for WW1.

>Switzerland would have just let them by
Probably not. Switzerland is far too mountainous for a giant invasion force to pass through. Even if they did this it'd take ages to move a massive army through the fucking Alps, not to mention the logistical nightmare it would be to transport enough supplies to feed an army of that size through giant fucking mountains. By the time they made it through (if they even did) France could easily move their armies to the Swiss border to counter them. Belgium is flat and easy to push through. Plus, if you go through Belgium you're basically almost to Paris whereas if you go through Switzerland you're pretty much in the middle of fucking nowhere.
>and even if they didn't, they had no allies. so Britain would have been out of the war.
Not really, Swiss neutrality was something that basically the whole world had agreed to respect. Britain wanted to get involved in the war anyway since they feared the Germans dominating the continent but just needed a casus belli and invading any neutral country would've sufficed for that. Britain wasn't "allied" with Belgium, they were simply signatories to the 1839 Treaty of London which required the great powers of Europe, all of whom, including the German Confederation, had signed, to respect Belgian neutrality.

Tbf, they wouldn't need to cross the Alps, they could advance into Switzerland through the Aare valley and then cross the Jura mountains to get into France, but the problem is that the rail and street network was problably not nearly dense enough to enable the transfer of such a large army, especially in Jura.

>The entire point of the Schlieffen Plan was to get to Paris fast.

No, the point of the plan was to defeat the French army in a grand encirclement. Paris was supposed to be bypassed either from the West or from the East, in 1914 it became clear pretty quickly that a circumvention from the West was unrealistic.

Luxembourg wasn't actually occupied though they were just forced to let the Germans use their railway junction, kind of like Sweden in ww2

>the point of the plan was to defeat the french in grand encirclement
which they only could have done if they defeated the french *fast* and force french capitulation by capturing paris through the fastest non-direct route. going south and through the southern france would cost the germans too much time and headaches. even if you were right but the point of the schlieffen plan was to be avoid a concurrent two-front war and instead fight a sequential two-front war by kicking out france early and turning to fight the russians.

>which they only could have done if they defeated the french *fast* and force french capitulation by capturing paris through the fastest non-direct route.

No. The point was NOT capturing Paris as fast as possible, which is why capturing or encircling Paris was not even a necessary part of the plan. Pic-related, the wide sweep around Paris was cancelled in late August 1914. Schlieffen himself had seen this as a possible option.

You retarded? Luxembourg got occupied right alongside Belgium. It's just that nobody talks about it because it's fucking Luxembourg.

Is that why Napoleon was the bad guy?
Because he invaded Switzerland?

Because literally a third of them are basically French, hence why he wouldn't want any more.

>through Switzerland

ummmmmmmm you mean OVER Switzerland???
is this low hanging fruit

>more sense if germany went through switzerland instead of belgium to get to france
Let me just move all these tanks and other heavy equipment up and down the fucking Alps to swiftly take France before oppositions organises

>switzerland would have just let them by
Literally placed their armies on all borders during the First World War and the Second World War.

>had no allies
Don't worry guys, Switzerland doesn't have any official alliances, so there would be no international condemnation to invading them

>tanks

>just a scrap of paper :^)
never 4get.

>Switzerland
>The materialisation of "if you want peace, prepare for war"
>Peacefully letting an invading army across its territory
You're delusional

And Venice, which at the point basically had as sacred a neutrailty as Switzerland did.