>be true Lithuanian
>creat Poland
>take Wilno from fake Lithuanian because 50% of its population was true lithuanian and 40% jews
>try to rebuild Commonwealth with Belorus and Ukraine
Is he ultimate good guy?
>be true Lithuanian
>creat Poland
>take Wilno from fake Lithuanian because 50% of its population was true lithuanian and 40% jews
>try to rebuild Commonwealth with Belorus and Ukraine
Is he ultimate good guy?
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You mean Polish-Lithuanian
>that awkward feel when you want both GROB russian and hapsburg empires but you need to still fit an independent poland in
> Wandycz characterizes him as "an ardent Polish patriot who on occasion would castigate the Poles for their stupidity, cowardice, or servility. He called himself a Polish Lithuanian, and was stubborn and reserved, loath to show his emotions.
He even called Poles stupid, what a guy.
>Gross Russia?
Literally why? Gross Polonum is better for the world
That was meant for the politicians and he wasn't wrong, they were stupid.
Too bad he didn't achieve his goal of Polish-Belorussian-Ukrainian-Baltic confederacy against German and Bolshevik expansion. If only Lithuanians and Ukrainians would swallow their fake pride and recognise communism as a bigger threat, many lives would be saved.
Also, if only he lived longer, we may had had witnessed German-Polish-Japanese crusade against Bolshevism
>>take Wilno from fake Lithuanian because 50% of its population was true lithuanian and 40% jews
...
>Is he ultimate good guy?
No, but a decent model negative stereotype of the rabid jingo-style (fake and ultimately a detriment to society) nationalist.
More obsolete than anything else, but still useful to a certain edgy sort of shitbox that luckily are few and far between.
Daily reminder that Pooland must not be allowed to exist
Litwin to najlepszy Polak
>Piłsudski
>nationalist
He was totally opposite of nationalist. He wanted to liberate Ukraine and Belorus and creat with them federation of equal states but Polish nationalist had majority during negociation in riga
do you want turks from constantinople to siberia?
Also ERE is partitioned between the two emperors
>ERE partitioned between KuKs and Russia
>Also ERE is partitioned between the two emperors
Not on my watch m8
I'm proud of being a Litwinski
he ruined the entire Eastern Europe
White Army wanted to make Poland vassal of Russia again. I wonder why Piłsudski doesn't help them
thats not an excuse for helpeing the Bolsheviks
How did he help them? By waging against them a total war that engaged 1 million Bolsheviks, and relieved Whites despite they fucked their chance up?
>1 million Bolsheviks
this is what Polaks actualy bealive
Passive support is still support, if he intervented against the Bolsheviks when they were in the middle of fight with Whites, Whites would have won.
White Russia coud guaranteen full freedom to poland. They didn't Red did.
>White Russia coud guaranteen full freedom to poland
No, they wouldn't. Also if Whites won, they would inavde Poland and West wouldn't give a shit about it.
Aw fuck off, Poland relieved Whites and they still lost like little divided bitches they were. By your logic Whites supported Bolsheviks because they refused to acknowledge Independent Poland just like them and their surrender was an act of collaboration.
And by the way, Poland SUPPORTED Whites you retarded inbred uneducated mongol cunt. We sent them whole corps turned into V Syberian infantry division. Yet Whites were still hostile towards Poland. They have fallen because of their arrogance and incompentence. Stop blaming others because it is Russians fucked up hard.
Deniken and Kolchak refused, Wrangel said that Polish independence is unquestionable
>Polish siberian division
yeah, tell me more about the Bolshevik fifth column mongoloid
so we know now why Piłsudski doesnt help White Russia
VETO VETO VETO
we will always fuck you over and smash your dreams like you did ours
?
fuck you russia
Just another brainwashed """lithuanian""" youth barking at his betters.
>let Ruskie go through your territory in exchange for Wilno
>become soviet republic
There is only one true GROB.
Exactly so why the fuck would Pilsudski want to help White Russia when they were obviously to prideful and arrogant of themselves for refusing to give back Polish lands which they stole while getting fucked over by the Reds. Pilsudski only wanted a guarantue of recogintion of new Polish borders from the Whites but they either refused or postponed the talks, so it the end was THEIR OWN FAULT.
>Kuks
What's wrong with the hapsburg empire
Spanish empire
>tfw he didnt managed to creat ``independent`` ukraine and belarus under Polish rule
feels bad man.
Worst timeline
>tfw no Big Blob Coalition of Spain and PLC