If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay thirty shekels of silver to the master of the slave...

Not that I disagree, its just that the legalistic nature of the verse, taken with the fact that Judaism endorses retributive justice, and the specific requirement of killing the bull by stoning seem to suggest they think the bull had some kind of responsibility. Maybe its just me.

>Exodus 21 is mostly Mad Max society/Taliban-tier shit
Pretty much everything I would criticise Islamic scripture for has an equivalent in Jewish scripture.

Afair only temple sacrifices were eaten. A stoned bull would not be, as it isn't being made sacred to THE LORD.

It gave them something to do, entertainment was hard to come by

"If a bull gores a man or woman to death, the bull is to be stoned to death, and its meat must not be eaten." (Exodus 21:28)

animals are not above God's justice

Cheers. Now why mustn't you seethe a calf in its mothers milk if you can't mix meat and dairy in the first place.

>implying animals don't feel
cows can cry

I never implied they can't feel, on the contrary, it's because I think they can feel that the practice seems barbaric to me.

well since they can feel then they can probably feel remorse for their actions when they're punished. dogs certainly do

This user it’s basically primitivist answer to nuclear waste polluting the local river all the natives drink from

that explains the 'thirty shekels of silver" part. the actual stoning of the bull would be to punish the bull itself

The bull is killed to punish the owner who let it get out of hand

also to punish the bull

I feel all humans and animals deserve a quick death. I can't abide torture, stoning seems cruel

You sound really pompous right now

Seems like a good law. I don't get why fedoras get so butthurt about stuff like this. Are you going to complain about rapists needing to marry their victims next, while completely denying the context of why such a law would have been a good idea?

What were germanics doing in 1000 BC?

How fucking long it must take to stone a bull to death.
I mean seriously.

Eunuchs get nothing

Property is valuable.

Are you seriously suggesting women are property?

>the owner of the slave is compensated for damage to their slave
>a dangerous animal is destroyed

I'm not sure I see the issue?

spbp

They used to be.

Forcing a women to marry her rapist was life saving for her in the context of the time.

You've made a theological assertion that in the context of exodus that women are valuable property. Defend from the Pentateuch.

It obviously has a precedent of killing people. Sounds reasonable to put it down. The method might be debatable but whatever.

>ancient Jews
Hebrews*

your mom sure cried while I banged her

Probably had different words for either and wanted to be fully inclusive, not because there were trans slaves.

>Pretty much everything I would criticise Islamic scripture for has an equivalent in Jewish scripture.
No shit dumbass. Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Literally all of it's values are from Jewish traditions.

>Are you seriously suggesting women are property?
Absolutely, and they will return to being property once the current Liberal/Capitalist zeitgeist collapses.

>zeitgeist
Oh look, another memeing faggot

There's literally no reason for Christians to include the OT in their Bible.

Islam is unironically the last Abrahamic religion whose followers still practice like it was supposed to be. Literally everything that exists in Islam also exists in Christianity and Judaism.
>And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you.
>Leviticus 11:7-8

>But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered, disgraces his head. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head uncovered disgraces her head, for it is the same as if she were shaven. For if a woman is not covered, let her be shaven. But if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. A man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God. But woman is the glory of man. For man was not created for woman, but woman for man. This is why the woman ought to have a sign of authority over her head, because of the angels.
>Corinthians, chapter 11.

>If a man commits adultery with another mans wife with the wife of his neighbourboth the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.
> Leviticus 20:10:
Not even Shariah law is special to Islam. The only difference is that unlike Christianity which has been castrated by the French revolution, Muslims won't give a single inch to Secularists and pander to Liberals like modern Christians. They will unapologetically follow Islam exactly how it supposed to be. Islam's values and traditions only became morally incorrect in the French revolution when the West abandoned Christianity and replaced it with Liberalism as their de facto religion and ideology.

Not an argument.

Women aren't valuable.

Nice meme, my dude.

In the context of this discussion I've suggested it ought to be demonstrated from the Pentateuch. No one has responded. Feel free to use any standard web text. I'll just look up your cites in my NJB

In ancient Greece there was a case where they put on trial an axe. Ancient times were kinda wacky.

You're fucking stupid. Islam was bevoming slowly more secularised until the wahabiest movement.

islam takes a sword to the world and is thus retarded since it tries to set up some kind of islamic world government and bruteforce change the whole world

christianity takes a sword to the soul of man and is thus enlightened because it tries to change the only thing that can be changed, yourself

where Christianity teaches self control Islam teaches total submission to the law. its why the islamic countries are relatively stable but as soon as they go to another country they completely cut loose and start raping everybody.

this is why any learned man will realize that any kind of world big government will never work, you can have all the laws in the world with the strictest punishments, it will always be easier for people to have people police themselves than to have a giant police system

Possibly. It was a thing in medieval Europe to put inanimate objects and non-human organisms on trial and to execute them for causing accidental deaths.

Reminds me of when I stubbed my toe on the door as a child and my mom pretended to beat the door to make me feel better

your mom is very intelligent

It was a joke between us, I thought it was funny and would ask her to punish the thing I got hurt on

>remorse for their actions when they're punished

That's not remorse. That's regret because of consequences.

Yes Christcuck. Keep spouting those non-arguments while you slowly get conquered. You have already lost Jerusalem and Constantinople. Keep deluding yourself that Liberalism is in any way ''Christian'' and soon you will lose Rome too.

Because it refers to a BULL. That's why he's stoned

Did you ask your mom to beat up your crush?

> christianity takes a sword to the soul of man and is thus enlightened because it tries to change the only thing that can be changed, yourself
Cringe

What's wrong? Want no consequences when your poorly managed bulls kill slaves of innocent slave-owners?
Fuck you. I've lost three slaves to the bulls of fuckers like you.

This is textbook revisionism

No shit, it's Reformed theology.

>No shit, it's Reformed theology.
In other words, revisionism.

Now this is a strawman.

>It's a weaker argument to call revisionism Reformed.

Hebrew genders nouns in a way that is built into the word itself. A male slave is עֶבֶד a "bondswoman" is אָמָה

More like, you're obviously an apologist for backward desert kikes and their mental droppings.

[THIS IS WHAT CHRISTKEKS ACTUALLY BELIEVE]

exodus is the old testament you mouthbreathing retard

The Old Testament that Jizzass said he came not to abolish but to enforce?

How is that relevant? Are Jews Christian now?

I suppose you think that paying for damages is an integral part of American religion, too.

>It means you have to take responsibility for consequences of your possessions, pay the due and accept the punishment.
beta af

What would have happened in hebrews go jihad and conquer all of ME and impose their religion?

Year is 1000 BC

First off, recognizable Judaism didn't even exist that far back, the first books of the OT are generally thought to have been written about 800 B.C.

But even if the Hebrews conquer most of the ME, it's not likely to lead to a mass expansion of the religion. Judaism is structured much more like most pre-Christian "pagan" religions when it comes to conversion and belief, something akin to Hinduism in that regard.

You don't really have a separate ethnic/national identity to your religious one. Converting to Biblical Judaism was synonymous with joining the tribe, and mass imperialism doesn't usually include that kind of inclusiveness.