Taking a small opportunity in the 7th century to wipe the floor with wh*Tes/(f)ersians and then creating one of the largest empires the world has ever seen. It sounds like a fantasy story desu.
But what can you tell me about the Arabs pre-Islamic era?
Muslims didn't use scimitars like those in your pic until the turks invaded.
Andrew Price
They had dope gods I guess, also were some Arab jews. Some say Muhammad came from a Jewish tribe and thus Islam is a Jewish religion, could someone provide me with more info on the Arab jews?
Despite Islam triggers the fuck out of me, their history is quite intresting. Cannot believe the (f)arsians become so cucked. No wonder the Sassanid nobles gave up reconquring Iran after they saw how much the (f)arsians craved Arab cock.
Benjamin Wood
/pol/ post. You are so ignorant
Gavin Rodriguez
>They had dope gods I guess, also were some Arab jews Is that really surprising? Judaism is from the Middle East itself.
>Despite Islam triggers the fuck out of me, their history is quite intresting. I agree. I've always been a fan of underdog stories and I find it crazy how the influence of one man caused a bunch of backwards, splintered tribes in becoming some of the most powerful in the world.
I'd like to see a serial of Muhammad but Muslim's would get too triggered
Colton Jackson
How the fuck did it all fall apart so quickly? Literally Mongol-tier disintegration of what could have been a Roman-sized caliphate. Are M*slims that barbaric?
Mason Anderson
Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all semitic religions you dense fuck.
Blake Nelson
Arabs are very corrupt
Ayden Price
>Islam >Christianity >Semitic religion Nope
Your religion have nothing Semites about them
Benjamin Hill
>Islam >Semitic They're ANTI-SEMITIC you retard
Angel Phillips
Arabs are semites, buckaroo
Jack Barnes
>But what can you tell me about the Arabs pre-Islamic era?
They have actively erased their pre-Islamic history and are suppressing any archaeological works in their countries to complete the image. I'm speaking of countries such as Arab Emirates; not bombed shells which have theirs lands lost to history such as Syria and Iraq.
Asher Wood
>mfw attended huge exhibition of pre-Islamic history at National Museum of Korea sponsored by Saudi Aramco and Saudi Embassy.
Logan Garcia
>metal as fuck stopped reading
Sebastian Baker
Some independent kingdoms on the Southern coast of Arabia (modern day Jemen and Oman) had Jewish rulers, like Himyar, they made money of trade between India, Persia and Rome, and also had (heretical) Christians living among them, causing religious strife. The Koran also mentions Jews living in Medina.
Daniel Kelly
Being a borderline turkposter should be bannable.muh wh*Tes and (f)ersians memes haha omgarab muslims i like them becuse im edgy and cool be mad at me plz
eeesh
Brandon Thompson
Not true "Jahili" period poets are very known in the Arabic world and studied
Imru' al-Qais being one good example
Joseph Rodriguez
Is there any historical monuments that still remain?
I'm not a Turk nor am I posting just for the sake of b8ing. You can like Islamic history without liking Muslims fyi.
The Bible invented the concept of Semites, so it is it who decides who is Semitic and who is not.
According to the Bible you are Cushites.
Hunter Walker
Semite (noun): a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.
Jonathan Myers
CUT THE SHIT RIGHT NOW. I'm a connaisseur of MENA ask me anything you want. I only deliver the truth.
Blake Morris
Why did moo ham head fuck little girls? Did his god tell him to be a pedophile?
Isaiah Gomez
Who was the Ned Stark of MENA?
Ryder Wood
this, it's a very tribalist and thus nepotistic culture - family/connections mean much more than demonstrated ability this is one of the reasons their modern military performs so poorly
alsothat "mongol-tier" disintegration is partly because, by the Middle Ages, the leadership of the Middle Eastern caliphate had shifted to Mongol/Turco-Mongols/Turco-Persians/Turks not saying that remaining under Arab(ian, i.e. from the peninsula) leadership would mean a better result the Ottomans became pretty damn powerful in their own right
Liam Ross
what is your favourite caliphate?
Oliver Sanchez
>so quickly
600 years of rashidun-umayyad-abbasid certainly wasnt mongol tier
Isaiah Myers
There's a movie called the Message I think about Muhammad.
Christian Martinez
Yeah! I do to, but it's the whole muh wh*Tes and shit. I myself love post-Islamic and pre-Islamic Arab history, same with the Turks and Persians but I don't meme it.
Thomas Long
Every Turk here loves Khalid. He was a Black bull.
Jason Lewis
Abbasyd Umayyad is basically Arab Supremacy: the caliphate, while the abbasyd absorbed superior Persians ideas of rule and thus, the islamic golden age.
Tyler Baker
>superior >(F)ersian HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Owen Nguyen
The ottomans were metal as fuck, the arabs were a bunch of faggots that found oil
Ethan Phillips
First Ottomans: TÜRK (Black bull)+Metal+Based Middle Ottomans: Turk but meh+Rock+Strong Late Ottomans: mutt+country music+subhuman
t. TÜRK
James Moore
Just a bunch of tribes of various religions, pagan, christian, jewish, squabbling over scarce resources and traditional feuds, a few commercial networks coming out of the cities of the southern coast which traded in goods from India and Africa, and a few cities in the Hejaz area on the extreme west of the peninsula where at least some degree of agriculture was possible.
Jeremiah Reyes
>eat up the decaying remnants of two dying empires >conquer some semi-literate societies in North Africa and petty kingdoms in Iberia >absorb elements of more advanced civilizations after conquering them >stagnate and then get knocked back a couple hundred years because of the Mongols
>metal
Oh okay
Angel White
I thought most Turk's were somewhat secular, unlike Kurds?
Logan Rodriguez
Just because we're secular does not mean we don't hate (F)ersians and crackers lmao
Samuel Morris
Not exactly. Curved swords became popular in Islamic countries at the same time they became popular in Europe
Charles Martinez
The Himyarite Kingdom was a Jewish kingdom of South Arabia. They got invaded by the Ethiopians. (Aksumites). This was like 50 years before Muhammad
Henry Torres
>Presenting themselves as secular, inteligent and refined >Actually a bunch of autistic unreasonable idiots >"(F)ersians are worse though" Turks never change
Nathaniel Gomez
(F)ersian subhuman diaspora go away. Why don't you go suck some white dick maybe they'll call you white and based :DDD
Leo Ramirez
>Like some of the first Umayyad Caliphs >Can't help but prefer the Abbasids simply by virtue of their aesthetics Who else /black-robed one/ ?
Kayden Ramirez
I will never understand why (F) people are so obsessed with being white. like lmao are you fucking serious when someone calls us white we strongly deny it and we make the guy regret calling Turks white or associating us with Europeans whereas when someone calls you non white you chimp out and try to relate yourselves to southern europeans. pretty pathetic imo. we embraced the black bull. you do that too and i'll stop making fun of (F) people.
also why would (F)ersians even want to be a part of a dying race? Whites are dying out and soon they'll be replaced by us (Turks), Blacks, Arabs, Afghans etc etc.
It lasted pretty long and has arguably had as much influence in its conquered lands as Rome has had in its.
Lucas Butler
Nassim Nicholas is a cancerous wewuzzer and retarded as well. Anyone who takes him seriously should be shot. I don't like to mention it but even I, a Chepni pleb from Giresun, am more related to Rome than this wewuzzer will ever be lmao. Like he's literally retarded and his massive butthurt towards gulf arabs does not help him think in a healthy way.
I hope some saudi black bull rapes nassim.
Jack Cox
>mfw someone says Lebanese aren't white
Lincoln Rivera
>When you are the part of Asia that went right but wants to be the part of Europe that went wrong Why Lebanese are like that?
Michael Green
Nassim is a fucking retard and i'd easily be able to beat the shit out of that malnourished Syrian-in-denial soon to be beggar in Fatih
Even Lebs make fun of him on twitter lmao. He once said that Lebs can't write a letter in Arabic hence they're not Arab :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
Nathan Garcia
>Quraysh >Jewish tribe oh lawd stop it
Liam Bailey
>this guy
Thomas Wright
Yemen and Oman were mixed South Arabians(Closer to Ethiopians) and some emigrating Arabs
Funny because the misconception is that it's the Homeland of Arabs when in reality Jordan is the most likely homeland
Jaxson Mitchell
What is Zulfiqar you flying homosexual retard?
Isaiah Bailey
>Some say Muhammad came from a Jewish tribe lmao kafirs can be retarded sometimes
Logan Jenkins
Keep coping infidel
Jeremiah Robinson
>muh fairytale book
Anthony Morales
Are you the same retarded faggot byzantiboo apologist who greentexts every thread and gets bombed and BTFO and than goes full /pol/?
James Murphy
t. roach
Aiden Wood
>has an arabic name >"but we wuz macedonians" can someone shoot this fucking retard?
Christopher Ortiz
> he is a pedophile in our modern definition.
Luis Hill
that's Ali.
Jack Watson
Pre Islamic Arabs was the old Yemeni civilization. It's collapse lead to the southern tribes existing and competing with the Jews and other asiatics to the north who had kreeped slowly into the poaninsula.
Basically they raided trade caravans and fought each other over water/women they would hire poets to shitpost at each other and that sometimes caused wars as well. Eventually the tribal wars stabilized and Christian Byzantine used a number of Arab allies as a buffer. Parthians did the same. This eventually set the stage for mobama
Joshua Cruz
abbasid caliphate was the most chill with less war and fanaticism.
Wyatt Walker
A good example of preislamic culture in arabia is the story of antara ibn shadad If you can find that in English. Basically it's the story of a halfback trying to ha've sex with a white woman and wrecking peoples shit in the process.
Henry Roberts
A bit Stalinist though. That and they did castrate all those white people. And weren't they the ones that caused the zany rebellion? The fatimids were nicerish.
Brandon Cook
I noticed on his twitter profile picture that he could easily pass as a southern euro from Greece or South Italy. Heck Colin Flaherty looks sorta like him in that pic.
But then I see other pics of him and he looks like a desert dwelling Arab mullah face. It's clear that he poses and wishes to be white, can't blame him though.
Luis Perez
>Romans from Macedonia and Albania >Implying anything outside of Latinum before or after the Soci Wars was Roman
An epic in the vein of romance of the three kingdoms set in the muslim conquest of syria written by Abu `Abdullah Muhammad Ibn ‘Omar Ibn Waqid al-Aslami in the 700's ad
The Battles of the Prophet (Ghazwat ul Rasul) by ibn kathir. Its exactly what is says on the tin, lots of detail on the planing and execution of the Rasullah(s) various campinges without the shit apologies modernist like to add in.
this guy writes indept western style histories of the Muslim world
Liam Davis
Arabs pre-islam were already the middle east's most dominant population. They were just kind of divided into christians, pre-arab religions, zharatustrians, jews, and others. Islam unified them and thus they started to completely dominate the middle east. Maybe similar to germans in europe: They were always there and always basically the biggest people in europe, but remained rather irrelevant until they unified in the 19th century.
Adrian King
Sandniggers that achieved nothing for over 2000 years.
And please don't conflate Berbers and Persians with Arabs please.
James Stewart
>but remained rather irrelevant until they unified in the 19th century.
retard detected
Xavier Harris
This is a semi-accurate view.
Elijah Adams
>It's clear that he poses and wishes to be white, can't blame him though. Leb here. Most people identify as Arab here and if you said any of this smug wh*Te shit to my face irl I'd kick your fucking skull in.
Carter Hall
based
John Howard
Also most diaspora are mentally ill.
Michael Howard
>totally not T*rk posting
Cooper Gomez
>Is that really surprising? Judaism is from the Middle East itself.
judaism is from the levant/mediterranean, arabs are from the arabian peninsula
Matthew Nguyen
If it werent for Turks, all of Middle East would be Christian after the Crusades
Julian Cook
Nice meme.
Carson Lopez
>berbers and persians >not sandniggers pot called kettle black.
Carter Thomas
>berbers >sandniggers Semi-yes >Persians >sandniggers No
Camden Carter
(F)ersian diaspora spotted
Brandon Torres
Berbers and Persians still aren't Arabs.
Jeremiah Robinson
did i allow you to reply to me (F)ersian subhuman? do you want me to break your bones? this is what i do to my slaves when they do not obey their black master
Aaron Anderson
t. totally not samefagging r*ach
Isaiah Hernandez
in all but name.
Owen Scott
That's like saying Anglos are Italian in all but name.
Oliver Rivera
If romans made colonies and settled on every corner if their empires, why not arabs?
How do you think arabization happened?
Do you think they just decided to adopt arab culture, language and religion?
Dont be stupid
And look how iran language script is arabic
John Phillips
>If romans made colonies and settled on every corner if their empires, why not arabs? Again, by that logic half of Europe are just Romans in all but name. If you can't tell the difference between all these countries then you're mentally retarded.
>And look how iran language script is arabic Yeah, great job picking up on that one jimmy. Did you also pick up on the fact that Japanese people utilize Chinese script, and that half of Europe utilized Latin script. Guess that makes them the same in all but name too, huh?
Mason Murphy
Pre-Islamic era is 16 century and earlier. Most of Arabs were nomads, but there were some river states in Egypt and Iraq. Also, Islam was never been monolite religion, number of branches/sects compared to Christianity.