The genetic shift is on the same scale of that which occurred with the migration of the Indo-Europeans into Europe, which seems pretty significant. If this represents some kind of migration that involved a decently large degree of population replacement, what could it have been? I'm guessing it has something to do with the Anatolian Indo-Europeans, since the Anatolian branch is thought to have separated from the other branches around 4000 BC or earlier, and the spread of the Anatolian languages to Anatolia is also thought to have occurred around this time, and both of these fit within the Chalcolithic period.
If this is genetic shift is representative of the spread of the Anatolian languages to Anatolia, doesn't this prove wrong the belief that the Anatolians were simply languages shifters due to elite cultural domination? Also, when it comes to the Anatolian migration, the most commonly held belief seems to be that the Anatolians migrated via the Balkans rather than down through the Caucasus. But it seems like the Anatolian Chalcolithic population was influenced by a heavily Caucasian population, so wouldn't this suggest that the Anatolian migration came down through the Caucasus from a genetically Caucasian population?
Hunter Thompson
>The genetic shift is on the same scale of that which occurred with the migration of the Indo-Europeans into Europe >beleiving neckbeard fairytales
Henry Scott
>Indo-European migrations never happened Med detected
Jordan Clark
there's no real evidence other then larping
Ian Wright
Lol
Hudson White
They migrated through the Caucasus, from the Caucasus, from the Makyop culture they spread the copper swords, but there were also movements in the opposite direction, of Semites going East to Mesopotamia and changing the native genes of the zagros farmers
Parker Morgan
show me scientific evidence, no humanities bullshit
Colton Moore
Are you fucking retarded?
Eli Rodriguez
Do you really expect me to write out a fucking essay when you can find all the evidence you want with ease by searching for it?
Besides, the OP image is enough proof really. If there was no mass migration and population replacement, modern European populations would still cluster with the Neolithic populations. But we don't, and not only does a significant amount of our blood derive from the steppe, but during the period when this shift occurred, R1b and R1a (which originated in the east) suddenly became dominant throughout Europe.
Jaxon Foster
>population replacement Why population replacement and not just population enrichment? replacement sounds like a genocidal rampage, which wasn't really a feasible thing before modernity.
Xavier Watson
Protip: Paternal lines of modern-day Europeans are different than those of the Neolithic Europeans.
Meaning Neolithic males were either genocided/replaced or enslaved and only Indo-Europeans bred with former Neolithic women.
Hunter Gray
I don't mean total replacement, I just mean enough migration/replacement to have a significant genetic impact as opposed to simply cultural domination by an elite.
Jacob Ramirez
>Protip: Paternal lines of modern-day Europeans are different than those of the Neolithic Europeans.
speak for yourself
Kayden Russell
Or their genetics were slowly replaced over more then 10 millenia?
Samuel Nguyen
Come on Varg
Isaiah Myers
t. cuck
James Taylor
You are a cuck?
yes
Evan Phillips
t, "neolithic" cuck subhuman
Gabriel Williams
T.retard who thinks it's got anything to do with genetics
Cooper Roberts
Also it's funny how the only "cuck" people in Europe here are le epic calcolithic steppe herders of West Europe, while South Europeans are more conservative, really makes you think
Ryan Wilson
>steppe herders of West Europe They were always degenerate cucks. It's in their blood.
John Bennett
horse cock is a hell of a drug
Lucas Morales
I really don't see how you picture pre-metalworking civilians genociding a whole continent of people.
Ian Miller
>pre-metalworking >civilians "No"
Luke Foster
Don't know why I typed civilians, meant settlers. But how do you picture this?
Nathan Green
I picture it very easily since we have the genetic, linguistic and archaeological evidence that it happened.
Anthony Stewart
Yeah very easily, a whole continent of people are exterminated with pre-bronze tools. Something that has never before done since modernity (ignoring the americas because smallpox played a large role there).
Sebastian Cruz
Yamnaya had the black death, the first case of black death ever attested is in fact in Kurgan burials dating to 3,200 bc
Henry Thomas
>Yamnaya had the black death So if black death is the case why are only the male lines extinct?
Bentley Rogers
>a whole continent of people are exterminated Strawman, I never said that.
Parker Brown
Mixed with Armenians?
Owen Roberts
No you said ALL neolithic men
James Rodriguez
>pre-bronze tools The Yamnaya were in the bronze age, you dufus. They also had the wheel, tamed horses and had a warrior culture. That and the fact they spread out in every direction which means there was probably a shitton of them. It's no stretch whatsoever that they completely took over Europe over the course of 1000-2000 years.
Samuel Cox
yeh, all the evidence from linguistics, anthropology and history, ie not science and a bunch of speculative, pseudo-scientific bullshit and dogma.
There is no evidence that any europeans spoke indo-european languages until after they'd had thorough contact with greeks and romans. There is no attestation to any other indo-european languages in europe prior to this. Occam's razor. None of the mental masturbation about indo-european migrations or invasions is neccessary