Who was more influential and left a bigger mark on history, Jesus or Alexander the Great?
Who was more influential and left a bigger mark on history, Jesus or Alexander the Great?
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alexander the great is only mentioned briefly towards the end of the OT but Jesus is the star of the entire bible
Jesus the Great
Without Alexander, Jesus would not have existed.
So you tell me.
>Without Alexander, Jesus would not have existed.
explain.
Alexander was Jesus' dad, retard.
that's joseph retard.
no it's GOD you silly bitch
>American education
Jewzus obviously...
joseph, god whatever. even ignoring the bible's canon alexander lived literally hundreds of years before jesus. it's nonsense.
Paul
>Alexander
Noted military genius studied by many, annihilated the dominant power of the middle east, created several empires by dying, spread Greek culture. Didn't even create or contribute much to said culture. Greek culture is eclipsed by Islam in most regions it was spread to.
>Jesus
Created a religion that shaped the western world and by extension the entire rest of the world. Thus he is partially responsible for the world's most powerful over-culture and religion. Only gets more followers every single year despite how people scream that it's dead.
Except without the Hellenistic environment Alexander created in the Near East Christianity would either have not existed or been some noname Jewish sect forgotten by history
You do have a point there.
But we can backtrack all we want and get nowhere. Do we say that Socrates had more impact than either of them because he taught down a line that went to Alexander?
>alexander lived literally hundreds of years before jesus
[citation needed]
winner winner chicken dinner
It's not just that. Without Alexander, Judea is a satrap. Judea is the Persianic world. Jesus' mythology would heavily be influenced not by the Hellenic-Jewish tradition of Philo, but a Persian-Jewish tradition that we would not recognize.
Jesus would not be "Jesus". Christianity would not be "Christianity". It would be persianized version of both, and this has enormous implications for the rest of history.
but wasn't the point of the satrapy system is to let the natives of those regions govern themselves? I doubt the persians cared to persianize them.
Persianization of the thinkers and the elite would be inevitable no matter how lax Persia's rule is.
how are you so certain? the reason why hellenization occured is because the rulers enforced it. this has always been the in history.
Chad Alexander vs Virgin Jesus
Alexander ofc since he existed.
Jesus most probably existed too
Basic cultural dynamics in a ruled polity from conquered to conqueror. It is extremely beneficial to convert to the host's religion and the host's culture. Pious Jews who rejected the new order would exist as did they resist Hellenization in our timeline.
>be influenced not by the Hellenic-Jewish tradition of Philo, but a Persian-Jewish tradition that we would not recognize.
Speak for yourself.
>Jesus would not be "Jesus". Christianity would not be "Christianity". It would be persianized version of both, and this has enormous implications for the rest of history.
Yes, there would be enormous implications if it never happened.
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So Greek. So Hellenistic.
Alexander.
Jesus sadly has his fanfiction replacing his words, as he was a gnostic.
>what is the new testament
wait i thought it was Noah, retard