I keep hearing conservatives say that blacks had it better back then, that even within slavery...

Jesus fucking christ, when did this place turn into stormfront?

This, the cucks on this board dont seem to understand what they see today IS LITERAL NORMAL AFRICAN BLACK BEHAVIOR.

Who the FUCK says this?
If you honestly believe that blacks had it better in the 50s/60s you're mentally retarded.

Is this fucking bait?
The prejudice against blacks was absurdly large during the 60s, you downplay it as if it barely existed.

>these presumptions about black people
You realize that the overall murder rate of the USA has been signficantly decreasing since the 1970's?
Also the reason that Italians are no longer the worst crime group is because the FBI took out most of the Mafia/Mob

Do you live in a black majority area?
If not then shut up as it means you have no clue how the average american negro behaves, you think the genetic outliers in college or in corporations are the common one and not the thugs who would slice your face open for pissing them off.

Blacks used to be forced to run their own stores and open their own banks etc. Black middle class probably contracted after desegregation

I live in an area that is 50/50 black/white

The worst people by a fair margin in the area are whites, i've met several that openly talk about robbing people, or even attempting to kill them

>Also the reason that Italians are no longer the worst crime group is because the FBI took out most of the Mafia/Mob

Lol so when do we start on blacks? because once they are gone, statistically speaking our country will be nearly devoid of crime for a population of 300+million.

The amount of crime that U.S. Blacks produce is literally mind boggling. Its statistically, and empircally mind boggling, across every single statistical category. Its an almost superhuman effort at undermining every single value in the social contract. Something that future generations will be aghast at.

Sure you do cuck. Now explain this why if I google a criminal offense, american city, and year it always SHOWS FUCKING NIGGERS.

>Le Cucks everyone! xD

>black middle class
Oh you mean the negros that run from their own people to white areas because their people will rob and kill them?

>Blacks used to be forced to run their own stores and open their own banks etc.

Yes, because the whites refused to interact with them at all. And while this doesn't sound bad, as soon as the black population and economy started threatening the majority white population, there would be race riots that would burn down businesses and cause blacks to have to flee somewhere else. In that way, it was damned near impossible for black families to acquire and pass on wealth.

tell us exactly where you live. I want to know of a single place in the United States that has a 50/50 black white split, where WHITES are empirically worse in behavior than blacks. Lol i got all nite

The crime blacks produce is so frequent calling it crime is stupid its more akin to the behavior of a wild animal. Crime is simply natural black behavior. Stealing is african resource opportunism. Rape is african reproduction. Killing is african conflict resolution. Attacking humans for fun is african pasttimes.

I'm not calling you a liar, but the area you live in is a severe outlier. Even if you dispute the causes, there's no denying how rampant crime is in black neighbourhoods.

What percentage of blacks commit crime? Violent crime to be exact? Is it more than 50%

The fact you doubt the savagery of niggers disproves any indication you live anywhere that is even 30% black.

Not the same guy. I lived in the black/Latino part of town growing up. Just curious if the majority of blacks commit crime. Or if it's just a significant plurality.

Depends where and when. In the South (especially the Deep South), blacks could face mob violence and intimidation. Lynchings were a real threat. During the early days (post Reconstruction and before WWI or so), sharecroppers were basically in a cycle of debt and lived on the brink of starving. Blacks who managed to get their own land or move into the cities in the waves of migration usually fared better. In the cities there were more opportunities and potentially less repression, though race riots flared occasionally.

1/3 of American Blacks are or will be arrested and charged with felonies in their lifetime

>once they are gone, statistically speaking our country will be nearly devoid of crime for a population of 300+million
lol
This is your brain on Stormfront

Hispanics are second in the US yet the black population commits half the violent crime in this country. You literally cannot explain this beyond racial genetics since hispanics vastly outnumber blacks and should logically cause far more crime than them.
No one ever seems to notice as soon as black enter a place in weeks it becomes dangerous to live in. Back in their home turf Africa, their cities are very dangerous and crime filled with unbelievable murder counts dwarfing even the most savage americoon cities like Detoilet and Chimpcongo.

>if you don't have the same assumptions as I do you're lying

Why did Civil Rights fail to keep intact the Black family?

>You literally cannot explain this beyond racial genetics
Maybe economic and sociological factors, like everything similar turns out to be?

See

Come on man, you don't have to take on a different political ideology to take a look at some statistic. Its one search away for gods sake.

sieg heil

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Hard discrimination was replaced with soft. There's no more lynchings and segregation, which is good, but blacks were (and still are) less likely to get a loan, less likely to get a job or an apartment, more likely to get arrested, and more likely to receive a harsher jail sentence, as compared to someone who is identical in all aspects but white.

Nope that excuses doesnt work as you cant explain why poor whites even before niggers become human citizens in this country dont have violent crime rates on par with blacks right now.
>muh poverty
Allow me to explain how violent crime happens, a part of your brain called the frontal lobe regulates your simian impulses and thus makes you human, the african black's sloped forehead is an indication of an underdeveloped frontal lobe area on average meaning they cant turn off their impulses. So when a black gets angry the first thing it will do is attack or kill, when a black gets horny it will rape, when a black gets greedy it will steal. This is also why blacks tend to be very unstable in behavior and anything can make them go apeshit crazy even looking at them for twos seconds as it triggers a simian instinct that causes primate males to fight eachother if they stare at eachother. No social welfare, no socialism, no programs can ever make blacks stop acting african cuck, they will always be feral psychotic jungle savages till our sun explodes.

I think his point was that crime isn't somehow magically going to disappear. The idea that somehow removing all black people will remove crime is retarded. Other groups will simply take up the slack. While It's arguable that it wouldn't be as high as it was before I doubt you'd simply see crime decrease that much for very long. There'd be an immediate dip but it would soon pick up again.

Crime can be quite profitable.

When your brain runs purely on emotion, graphs won't change your mind.

Don't forget that the American criminal justice system just tends to harden criminals, regardless of race. Take into account that it becomes practically impossible to get a respectable job after being in prison and you have yourself a perpetual criminal class.

>less likely to get a loan
You have to be smart with your money, and many Blacks are failing to show good credit or good budgeting. That's why many are being turned down for loans, not muh racial discrimination

>job
an alien concept to africans, they want immediate gratification thus they steal rather than get any profession its too slow for their impulsive mind. Negros also on jobs tend to be human cancer to non negro coworkers.

I don't think anyone's questioning that black people commit proportionally more crime. I think they're taking issue with the idea that black people are genetically predisposed to violence.

Taking a look at the complete collapse of the black family unit, the hellishly dense and poor quality urban housing and the sheer perpetuation of poverty from generation to generation are legitimate avenues to explore.

>whiteys are superior to everyone else!
>get fucked by niggers and the only thing to rebuke it is being edgy online and posting graphs
r-redpilled gaiz

No, there is actual discrimination. Simply e-mailing with a "black" sounding name is enough to affect your chances of getting a loan. Here's a study on the effect:

k-state.edu/economics/seminars/papers/Hawley JMP.pdf

Actually, you'd be wrong. African immigrants to America today have a higher rate of higher education than American whites. They also tend to have higher income as well.

The story is different for native American blacks however.

>African immigrants to America
>African genetic outlliers
Shut the fuck up

> Enslave black people
> Demand that they are grateful because you freed them... from yourself.

How fucking dumb can one person be?

> Fuck people over and cripple them for generations to come and again demand that black people are grateful for all the nice institutions white people built when blacks were either enslaved or segregated.

I really can't grasp this kind of stupidity.

More of a class outlier really. I actually did work in Africa for a while. It really was an interesting experience. Africans aren't these stupid savages you think they are. They're much like us. The kind of person they are depends more or less on the situation they're born into. The poor and destitute tend to do desperate shit to stay afloat while the wealthy can stand above that and afford to be civilized.

Who gives a shit about african genetic outliers?
The fact our resident ape population still has retard tier IQ scores after all these years means their race on average are subhuman worthless trash.
You cucks keep bringing up your based african immigrants but IGNORE THE AFRICAN REFUGEES that are human cancer and also the common african negro on this planet. You say the refugees are bad apples but no they are exactly what the average black acts like, only a minority of negros in African countries even have middle class tier wealth those are the ones smart enough to do so, the rest are feral sociopaths stuck in metal tin shuck villages that kill,rape, and steal from eachother. Sound familiar to you? Yes thats exactly what the ghetto savages to do eachother in their communities in America.

Blacks don't had it better back then, blacks were better

Should we gas them?

Ignoring the fact that people of equal economic background are doing equally well on IQ test (which are idiotic anyway) and the divide is a financial one, not a racial one.

Then if they aren't grateful, they can move on or leave
If they can't stand living with Whites, they can go reunite with their African kinsmen (and probably get enslaved by them)

>Africans aren't these stupid savages you think they are.
Ah yes user thats why they have billboards to tell blacks not to mob attack people right?
Ah yes user thats why they have to constantly tell blacks to stop beating women right?
Ah yes user thats why BLACKS LITERALLY MURDER WHITES IN SOUTH AFRICA FOR FUN right user?

Typical missionary cuck he lives around the savages and thinks they are people when they would kill you in a flash for no reason at all.
It has nothing to do with finance, its genetic as mixbreeds are smarter than natives in Africa hell our american apes are much smarter than actual africans and they are only 30% European. The only reason "smart" niggers even have any income in America is due to cucks, if it were not for cucks there would be no smart blacks in this country period as any smart white or asian is infinitely better than them.

Why the fuck should they be grateful? If I start hitting you everyday and someday decide to stop that are you grateful that I stopped?
Or would you find the fact that I want you to be grateful that I stopped hitting you a bit odd?
Thought so.

Mm with that the same logic we should also ban guns nationwide then since it's reported to significantly reduce gun crime rates everywhere it's implemented irrespective of any secondary consequences it may bring.

It sells newspapers and gets ad dollars from web traffic. The press has been playing to peoples' fears since at least the Reagan administration.

If white racists aren't happy to live with blacks then they should go back to Europe. Blacks on average have been in America longer.

The only true natives are the Amerindians.

I'm pissed off that 865,000 white men died because of those goddamn Blacks, and we have to listen to their constant bitching and deal with their goddamn shenanigans ever since.
And it's obvious they won't leave because 1) they know Black-majority African nations are shit and 2) the money's too good in the West and East Asia.

And there are Veeky Forums anons that need to grow up from their adolescent left-wing, possibly Marxist phase they're still stuck in

Why should they? Their complaints were legitimate. They had no right to vote, were economically discriminated against pretty much at every turn despite being born in the country. They should have ultimately been viewed as no different than white citizens by the government.

If it were the case that they were treated exactly the same as white Americans from a political, economic and judicial perspective then maybe you have a point.

Yh yh sure, explain why I dont just see whites IN A WHITE MAJORITY COUNTRY DOING ALL THE CRIME.
You should be grateful, the only reason your subhuman ass isnt placed in zoos is because of us white people you african piece of shit.

Who gives a shit who "the true natives" are? Amerindians lost
Do you honestly believe bringing up "muh true natives" over and over again is going to change the fact that they lost and that they are NEVER getting their land back?

Most the people who disagree with on disagree with the other. By the way, blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime here in Europe too and they don't even live in the poorest areas.

>treat blacks like white citizens
>blacks begin attacking white people
>whites leave their own cities because they cant just genocide the monkeys
>blacks turn the cities into hellholes

There was a reason for Jim Crow cuck.

user, honestly I believe most Whites shouldn't even have the vote. Definitely no women. A Republic should have very limited democracy.

They're here too and they get up to the exact same nonsense as in America.

And BLM is ironically doing more to destroy Civil Rights than preserve or increase Civil Rights

I also belive that might is right. Accpet it that you lost to the Jews and that multi racialism is here to stay. War is just an extension of politics.

But the uncounted amount of other lives lost are of no significance? Also many today insist on the Civil War not having been about slavery so which is it shill?

Who gives a damn. Africans were worthless animals who were inferior to all known races on this planet, why on earth should we ever respect them if all non black races have called them wild beast that were not human. Yes yes user we should totally give a feral impulsive savage the right to vote.

You are pissed of that in the 1860s some majority white slave owners in the south threw a hissyfit and needed to be crushed by the north.
Is it such a stretch for you to even consider that maybe all the people who decided to go to war and everybody who decided how it was fought was a white person? That's like blaming the Jews that Americans died to defeat the Nazis.

And why the fuck would black people even go back to Africa? They have lived in America since they were born and know no other culture than American culture. America is their home country even though you don't wanna hear that.

But I NEVER hit you. Nor did anyone I'm connected to in any shape or form. And yet you still think you're justified with your anger towards me.

I'm not black and not american, but nice try.

I never said anything about the Jews
But Blacks and Amerindians are going to have to move on and show they can adapt to a changed situation or forever cry about past grievances. And divorce the Leftists who use them as pawns

If you want to be the one to pry those guns out of the hands of evil niggers and drunk rednecks then be my guest, but the won’t be easy to confiscate

>And why the fuck would black people even go back to Africa?
Its their home, they evolved to live in it.
>since they were born and know no other culture than American culture
Make a new culture you stupid nigger.

Africa has lots of vacant land and retards populating it meaning it was a godsend for anyone who wanted to quickly form a resource full country, too bad the americoons are dumb monkeys just like their continental cousins thus rather parasite of us whites than get off their asses and form a nation in Africa.

And what reward do I get for uppity Blacks, huh?
What do I get in this deal? Fuck altruism

And blacks surely weren't provoking Americans to make them into slaves.
You can't inflict something on people and then want them to be grateful that you are no longer doing that.

stormfag damage control in action

I'm waiting for Marxists to finally be grateful for the capitalism that clothes and feeds and provides

>Yh yh sure, explain why I dont just see whites IN A WHITE MAJORITY COUNTRY DOING ALL THE CRIME.
Poverty, lack of education, discriminatory enforcement, and soft segregation all play into it. America isn't special, these factors are in play the world over.

Black enslaved blacks, who gives a damn if we enslaved them? They treat their own people far worse than we ever treated them. Showing empathy for negros should be considered a mental illness honestly.
>poverty
Nope I already told you that excuse dosent work. Try again.

>They have lived in America since they were born and know no other culture than American culture.

This. Shipping black people back to Africa would make as much sense as shipping back a 3rd or 4th generation Hispanic American back to South America.

White evolved to live in Europe, nobody that evolved in North America was white. Do you want Whites to go back to Europe where they "belong" or does that not count for Whites because reasons?

It technically is the fault of Jewish-Americans for lobbying a war against Germany.
America was only slated to fight Japan because of Pearl Harbor.

Well duh. If your name is D’shauwn then your parents are retarded and since you’ve inherited their genes you are also retarded.

>respect is earned not deserved
Enjoy being trampled because your ancestors didn't attain a higher status you elite cuck bootlicker.

Doesnt matter, we dont need niggers and we cant kill them so we should send them away to Africa and kill anyone that tries to come back here.
America is white land we made this country, it was wilderness under the Amerindians, the negro is useless to americans so it must be removed or killed no other options.

That has nothing to do with altruism. Do you think you should be rewarded to show some decency to anyone? Jesus Christ.

I actually do, yeah.

Blacks have never helped anyone, so we should never help them at all, if they get in trouble let them fix it themselves or die. You altruist are the real cancer in our european race.

Talk about moving the goal post.
I was trying to cite the flaws in such soulless pragmatic thinking which why as humans we should be obligated to exhibit a high degree of idealism and morality.

I never asked for your damn multiethnic, multicultural social experiment

>Nope I already told you that excuse dosent work. Try again.
>I'm such a nigger myself that I can't accept the white man's lies unga bunga
There is a proven link between poverty and criminality. There are three other factors I've listed that you're ignoring because your idea of white supremacy is so fragile it needs to be protected.

No it wasn't. Germany declared war on the US after they declared war on Japan. So the US wasn't even choosing to fight Germany.