Why did the Nazis even bother with the war thing when he already had all this...

Why did the Nazis even bother with the war thing when he already had all this, which would've easily dominated Europe militarily, economically and politically in a few short years? Did Hitler fear the logical warrior?

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Muh Danzig and Germans

The only reason he was able to acquire all that was because he had gone into debt creating a military capable of threatening the other European powers, Germany needed to conquer more land at that point or their economy would collapse.

The point you're making is correct. Germany is huge, and it's natural position is to absolutely dominate Europe. Germany was naturally going in that direction, until WWI and WWII came and got in the way. After re-unification Germany has gone back to resuming its dominant position.

Hitler was a radical and a fool, who had this grand scheme of taking over all of Eastern Europe. It was a fool's errand and caused so much needless death and misery, for the people of Europe and Germans especially.

They got it because Britain allowed them to. Hitler could've prevented a economic collapse by listening to shacht

Poland provoked Germany into an invasion. It’s not that he wanted to annex Poland. He was simply looking after the German minorities that were persecuted in Poland.

To the Fuhrer, the German people nterest was his top priority. He tried offering alternatives to the Polish government, but they did not comply. The last thing Hitler wanted was war. He did not want to repeat what he had already seen in World War 1. Hitler was left no choice but to act on his own accord militarily.

Once Germany step foot in Poland, all diplomatic and logic went out the door. The international Jewry, starting with Britain and France had a legitimate reason to finally declare war on Germany.

Hitler wanted Germany to be as big as the continental United States. Hitler regarded the United States with a mixture of scorn, admiration, envy. Scorn for America's liberalism, admiration for America's racial segregation, and envy for America's sheer economic power. He wanted Germany to be the America of Europe.

Now tell us about the Danzig Massacre

Yes poor Hilter and his Germany were a peace loving people.
All that militaristic build up they did the last year was only to save the motherland from an planned invasion by Allied forces against the aryan race led by jewish bankers.

youtu.be/LvkIgKJCWek

>having a military for your nation is bad

>spending so much on the military you feel the need to invade your neighbours, causing a war that partions your contienent and almost destroys the planet

It was needed.
Hitler knew that the Jew won't allow an Aryan people to prosper without his intervention.
He needed a powerful Nation a Nation free from the Jew.

>German propaganda from 30's is 100% accurate and not at all biased
>But everything from the other side is pure propaganda, Germans never lie

>Poland provoked Germany into an invasion
Literally how?

By supporting Judeo-Bolshevik gangs of course, interwar Poland was famous for it's pro-communism after all, let's just forget about the Germans at Danzig refusing to unload munitions for the Polish to fight the Soviets in the 1920's because Germans are the most discriminated against race in the world and dindu nuffin

If Poland had been provoking the Germans into attacking, then why did the Germans have to do a false flag attack on their own radio station to justify war against them?

>The city of Danzig supersedes the Polish government.

What you posted helps my argument if you hadn’t noticed. It shows that the Danzig people wanted to be part of the Reich but the Polish government refused.

>admiration for America's racial segregation
didnt he consider the americans negroid mutts?

then why didn't Hitler allow the neighbouring countries to prosper?
just shut your whore mouth

Danzig wasn't part of the Polish state you fucking retard, it was legally forbidden from joining Poland or Germany

they feared the debt warrior

>implying Austria did not prosper

His opinion on that seemed to shift significantly between his first and second book. It appears that between those two books, somebody informed him about America's racial segregation system and he liked the sound of it.

>It’s not that he wanted to annex Poland.
"Truly, this earth is a trophy cup for the industrious man. And this rightly so, in the service of natural selection. He who does not possess the force to secure his Lebensraum in this world, and, if necessary, to enlarge it, does not deserve to possess the necessities of life. He must step aside and allow stronger peoples to pass him by."
"And so, we National Socialists consciously draw a line beneath the foreign policy tendency of our pre–War period. We take up where we broke off six hundred years ago. We stop the endless German movement to the south and west, and turn our gaze toward the land in the East. At long last, we break off the colonial and commercial policy of the pre–War period and shift to the soil policy of the future."
"If we speak of soil in Europe today, we can primarily have in mind only Russia and her vassal border states."

>He was simply looking after the German minorities that were persecuted in Poland.
Propaganda without any evidence.

>what was czechoslovakia
>what was the kingdom of yugoslavia

He tried.
But the world of imperialism didn't let him.
Poland was an artifical Nation created by the Varsaile Treaty to weaken Germany. Yet Hitler still tried to negotiate on equal terms with the Polish goverment on the ill treatment of Germans on now Polish Territory.
Before Hitler cam to power France invaded with Military forces several times the Rhine area to steal stuff. You can't tollerate this. You need to be able to defend your Nation when you want it to prosper and you need to defend your people. This is what Hitler did, or what any good statemen wants to do.

Revising history are we?

It may have not been officially part of Poland, but the Polish government had more authority over it than Germany.

He liked how America for it's segregation and the killing of native americans but he also hated America for it's democratic traditions and race mixing.

>posts pic refuting his own initial claim
>"Revising history are we?"
Not the user you are discussing with but you are retarded.

>Poland was an artifical Nation created by the Varsaile Treaty to weaken Germany.
and yet Poland existed as a state hundreds of years before Germany ever did, odd

The creation of an independent Poland weakened Russia a lot more than it weakened Germany.

Again, it does not refute the claim that the Polish government supersedes the City’s government with the help of the Treaty of Versailles.

that's some next level dinduing, adolf

If Poland was artificial then so was Prussia and German Empire, since Poland pre-dates both by hundreds of years.

Because Poland dindu nuffin

>Poland was an artificial Nation
Stormcucks in a nutshell

Be honest. You've never read any history and your entire "knowledge" comes from /pol/ infographs and a couple of youtube videos, right?

>But the world of imperialism didn't let him.
this has to be bait, germany was imperialist before and after WWII

Poland didn’t exist. Deal with it.

In fact Poland should be thanking Germany for its existence.

Are you really that stupid?

Nazi Germany doesn't exist, deal with it.

Not an argument

You’re right. There is no such thing as “Nazi” Germany.

Neither is your retardation, but here we are.

Again, not an argument

Okay, that's just an empty hook right now
Here's your (You), I hope it's your last one

There is no such thing as National Socialist Germany either.

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The Soviet Union doesn’t exist either. Your point? Doesn’t mean it didn’t exist at one point in history.

you want a coutner argument? I know you're trolling but there are people reading this so we will try to do something educative
the Piast dinasty ruled Poland in the 10th century, that is before, and not after the year 1795

Economy wouldn’t have been good since they spent a lot on millitary

I bet my left hand that among the loudest nazi apologists here are in fact Finntards, because for some reason this mongoloid trash has a fetish for Nazi Germany.

Finland and Finns, country and people that never accomplished anything in their sad and pathetic history of being Swedish and Russian cumbucket.

I've seen on /int/ already.

Exactly. Germany is an artificial nation.

muh gayman lands, polacks don't exist, it's all artifical in your head bro lmao, just get a hit of this kekistani bong brotha, race war now XD XD

If we are going for the artificial nations route. Can we all come to agree that Belgium is also an artificial nation? Maybe Italy too?

Yes

Do you lack reading comprehension? That is exactly what was stated. After 1795, Poland did not exist as a nation until the Treaty of Versailles. Maybe it’s you that’s being retarded.

Well, according to , any nation that hasn't existed since the beginning of humanity, which is all of them, is an artificial nation. So yes, Belgium and Italy are artificial nations.

My brain is to small for this thread

We are getting dangerously close too spook territory with how this going. Be careful

>mfw the retarded stormnigger was a falseflagging anarchist

at least, Italians, feel more patriotism or identity towards their regions/cities rather than for all the country
do you mean, that magically, all the Polish people disappeared from 1795 to 1918?

>Customs Union = Sovereignty
So you are actually retarded?

Nah they're probably meds,mutt and Latino. People that are self-conscious about their race tend to be drawn to Nazi Germany

I think most of the /pol/tards here are just 100% pure German heritage burgers

one of the worst posts I've ever read. who could be behind this?

This Poland was created by the treaty of Versaile.
Read it up.

I don't get the uproar about what I said. What's controversial there?

They were legitimate Polish states in the past but this one was entirly made on paper to be a bufferstate.

Germany was also made up. I don't understand how you think Poland was an artificial nation, your own post shows that Polish nationalism was kept alive even when the Polish government didn't exist, and when the Poles got their nation back the nation was filled with Poles and they recognized the legitimacy of their government.

There was evidence of some of what he said. Hitler definitely made remarks about how great the US was at segregation and how beneficial it was to the Anglos that ruled over America. He also didn't have that many issues with blacks, and saw the Jews in America as a much bigger threat. He even went so far as to legalize african fighting units. Thinking a segregated and controlled 2nd class (that's easily recognizable) would be important. Obviously he didn't trust slavs or serbs. He also wrote, that if America could remain neutral he could easily defeat the UK, and take half of Russia.

Too bad he didn't see the benefit of the non-aggression pact. Or the foresight that the US wouldn't continue to fascism take over, despite letting Franco slaughter millions of innocent people.

A real nation can make decision and pass laws on its own.
It creates itself out of its people.
Not being created by unrelated powers for their own purpose.
If the United States fight their way to Independence against the Anglo they reach self determination the reach the Status of a Nation.

If the US would have been created by a treaty between England and Spain for the purpose of holding France out of NA than it's not a Nation. It's a merely glorifed buffer zone lets call it a country. It lives and dies with the purpose it has for its creators.

>A real nation can make decision and pass laws on its own.
>It creates itself out of its people.
Poland was both of these things.

>If the United States fight their way to Independence against the Anglo they reach self determination the reach the Status of a Nation.
So the United States is an artificial nation then, since they were largely supported by the French in their bid for independence?

There was Ukranians, Jews, Polish, Belyarus and Germans.
Polish state? Why? Why now Jewish or Ukranian one?
Show me the sign of a Pole on the Versaile treaty that could in any way indicate a Pole being at least related to this?

Muh Lebensraum
>Didn’t invest enough in their colonies when Willie was running the show

>There was Ukranians, Jews, Polish, Belyarus and Germans.
But it was mostly Poles.

>Why not Jewish or Ukranian one?
There are Jewish and Ukrainian states now.

>Show me the sign of a Pole on the Versaile treaty that could in any way indicate a Pole being at least related to this?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Treaty_of_Versailles

Fixed.

Poland declared independence in 1918, Versailles was a year later, are you an idiot?

USA fight their independence thanks to foreign(French) help.
How its different from Poles who take advantage of their oppressors weakness and acquire foreign help?

I think The Greatest Story Never Told skips over that whole Polish uprising thing.

but Polish people tried to become independent several tiemes before 1918, specially during the 19th century

>tried

The keyword here is tried. They never became independent until the treaty.

The treaty merely reflected the reality on the ground.

They beat German Freikorps, the Red Army, and Lithuania without that treaty

yeah ok kid, but what about when ebin groBischesgermanisches reich was stabbed in the back by DER JUDEN?

Skips over annexation of Czech as well kek

That event took place decades after the treaty.

>1918-1921 took place decades after Versailles

Are you even trying?

So you admit that it took place after Poland came into existence?

>hitler
>listening
that's about as absurd a scenario as you can imagine

Poland came into existence in 1918 and secured its borders through force of arms, your entire argument it was created by Versailles is fucking retarded

this brainlet tier discussion has been alive for almost 4 hours

Hjalmar Schacht and his economists basically asked Hitler the same thing, and he wrote a rather lengthy memo in response chastizing them for putting their economic concerns ahead of his military ones. In his words, all effort should be spent to building a German military that could conquer what was required for "national self-assertion." Concerns about the economic viability of the German rearmament and upcoming conflict were merely excuses to hide a lack of will to do what needed to be done.

Making fun of stormtards is fun at least

a bit unethical of you

>There was evidence of some of what he said. Hitler definitely made remarks about how great the US was at segregation and how beneficial it was to the Anglos that ruled over America. He also didn't have that many issues with blacks, and saw the Jews in America as a much bigger threat. He even went so far as to legalize african fighting units. Thinking a segregated and controlled 2nd class (that's easily recognizable) would be important. Obviously he didn't trust slavs or serbs. He also wrote, that if America could remain neutral he could easily defeat the UK, and take half of Russia.

>Too bad he didn't see the benefit of the non-aggression pact. Or the foresight that the US wouldn't continue to fascism take over, despite letting Franco slaughter millions of innocent people.

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The military expansion was an unnecessary waste of resources. The British and French had no appetite for war. The Poles were too weak to do any damage. The Soviets would have had to cross Poland to attack Germany, which would have probably frightened the British and French into supporting Germany in order to maintain the balance of power (and I'm not even sure the Soviets were capable of beating Poland, then Germany with that offensively shit military that could barely defeat Finland).
Also keep in mind that Hitler didn't just want a military for Germany... apparently he wanted that same military to also be in Austria and in Czechoslovakia. Hmm...

Do you not realize that had they wanted to, the victorious Allied Powers could have made Germany cease to exist in 1918, just like Poland had been made to cease to exist? If Poland existed after WWI because of the Allies, the same can be said about Germany. Germany only existed because the Allies permitted it to continue existing after the war.

unironically Memeland desu