Were the germanic barbarians the good guys?

no they were shit flinging savages

No, they were so barbaric that even the Romans didn't want to conquer their backwards ass.

they didn't want to so bad they sent three legions into Germania to do so

sour grapes much
hehe this

Unorinically yes. Germanic civilisation has proven itself superior to m*Doid civilisation.

The only thing they had going for them was being slightly further away from Rome
Other than that, they were the ugly of the three

So, like the the poles with the Nazis?

*invades*

It doesn't matter who we are...

That was just to keep trade relations good, and also protect them against their backstabbing brethren
Of course not, they took new lands rather than be subservient to the emperor

They unironically were
t. impartial

Indeed, Germanic tribes were the good guys, the Freedom fighters of antiquity. See Rome was a proto fascist society, highly hierarchical, fully militarized and built on a slave economy that had to be constantly fuelled by new slaves acquired by endless wars. Rome pretty much genozided half of the Celts and subjugated the other half, same with all people around the Mediterranean sea. Germania was like the UK in WW2, the last free people offering resistance to the tyranny of evil men.
Fortunately the Germanic tribes under their great leader Arminius managed to stop the Roman expansion into their sacred lands in the epic battle of the Teutoburg forest, the original heart of darkness and a lasting trauma for the Romans, but the war went on for centuries and many brave Germanics gave their lives to keep at least part of Europe free and stop the fascist tyranny.
In the end it was luck and the Jews that saved the day, Rome got christcucked and the Germanics, honed in battle and conditioned to kill medcucks, curbstomped the Romans and built a better Europe on the ashes of the evil empire.

Basically Rome is mordor

>You will never be a young Germanic tribesman, conquering the lands that belonged formally to the rotten Western Roman Empire, meet a beautiful mediterranean waifu and start a crypto-Germanic dynasty that rules the lands for years to come.

>the good guys

>"History is no criminal court."
Ranke
>wie es eigentlich gewesen
Ranke

please tell me this shite was written by an American.

>Sigmar
Boy what the fuck are you reading.

>Be Arminius
>Be captured as a lil'kraut
>Your brother Flavus is captured too.
>Obtain Roman citizenship and become a military commander.
> Publius Quinctilius Varus is new boss, don't like him so plan to be a dickhead and betray the 36,000 men that are loyal to you and Varus.
>Flavus calls you a retard
>I'll show him.jpg
>Battle of the Teutoburg Forest
>Actually a smart strategy
>Chase survivors to Aliso.
>Get btfo'd by the local garrison
>A distant screech is heard across the lands
>Germanicus.
>Oh and your super disappointed brother Flavus.
>Mattium sacked
>Your pregnant daughter captured.
>Bructeri routed
>attack Roman forces at Ems, get routed
>attack a fort on the Lippe, rout when more Romans show up.
>Battle of the Weser River
>Get btfo'd, hardcore.
>"the enemy were slaughtered from the fifth hour of daylight to nightfall, and for ten miles the ground was littered with corpses and weapons". -Tacitus
>run the fuck away.
>Your wife gets captured.
>Get trash talked by your one eye'd brother
>Only live because Rome refuses to let their mad dog off it's leash.
>Die two years later anyway.

Typical German military, good start, trash finish.

>In the end it was luck and the Jews that saved the day

Why must you bait like this.

>there is a little wall somewhere in northern Germany
>its just a earthen wall with some makeshift palisades, nothing impressive, not even at the time
>this wall is the tide mark of the Roman expansion
>till here they made it and not one step further, of all places in Europe, the Roman empire was stopped right here
>farmers and nobles, freemen, brothers, friends, all stood united by the vow to rather die fighting the Roman mercenaries than to ever submit to the Roman whores again.
>the freedom of the Germanic tribes was won here and centuries later their heirs should take gruesome vengeance on the Romans for centuries of war and oppression.
Odin bless this boys, I get goose bumps just thinking about it.

They were pure Nordic supreme Warriors who destroyed mediterrenean-mixed (in it's last stage) Rome and built a new Aryan Teutonic Europe.

lies, Germanics were tolerant and multicultural. They didn't resist Rome because of some racial bullshit but because Rome was a fascist Moloch threatening their liberty.

Caesar was justified, the Gallic War was a preemptive attack.

>That, moreover, the Germans should by degrees become accustomed to cross the Rhine, and that a great body of them should come into Gaul, he saw [would be] dangerous to the Roman people, and judged, that wild and savage men would not be likely to restrain themselves, after they had possessed themselves of all Gaul.

blatant war of Aggression for the sole purpose of conquering and enslaving the Celts. Caesar was the Hitler of his time, murdering half or Europe.

Europe had no meaning at the time, no one in a civilized place south of the Rubicon felt any kinship with the snowniggers of the north.

t. Agriulfum

>Liberty
>Germany

“To the meaningless French idealisms: Liberty, Equality and Fraternity, we propose the three German realities: Infantry, Cavalry, and Artillery.”
- Prince Bernhard von Bülow

Yet, there's still Germans and no Romans. Hmmmmm.

Germania Magna is like Romes cold, dark and wet Vietnam, in the end all their victories were for naught and one defeat was enough.
Having fertile women and superior personal hygiene meant that Germanics could outmatch the Romans in casualties and fight a permanent war of attrition for generations until the eventual downfall of the entire empire.
Imagine being one of Alarics warriors, sacking Rome and knowing, after 500 years of war you finally cut the serpents head off and you won. All your ancestors smiling down on you while you hatefuck some of the less hairy med bitches on the corpses of their families.

>conquering and enslaving all your neighbours because you can is good

>"good guys" of history

>be G*rmanic nigger
>ruin the Roman Empire with illegal immigration like how refugees are ruining Europe today
>LARP as Roman a few centuries after

>talking about history like it's a bad YA novel

Why would anybody LARP as R*man when they are the heroes that fought and destroyed the evil empire and built a better civilization instead? This is wishful thinking and strawman tactics by meds to distract them from their impotency in real life.
>we are having this conversation in germanic nordcuck talk

Rome was full of mongrels from all over the Roman Empire, Germanic invaders could've only improved their gene pool

And they did >meet a beautiful mediterranean waifu and start a crypto-Germanic dynasty that rules the lands for years to come.
crazy as it sounds, but the noble class of all western Europe basically was crypto-Germs or open Germ and ruled all of Europe until the French revolution.

>G*rman
>Good

Yer on the wrong board feller

Arminius wasted 3 full legions then whipped every Roman settlement in Germania magna from the face of the earth, freed the slaves, killed the meds and thus saved Germania from all further attempts of colonization or subjugation. All the Romans had left was some terror tactic punitive expeditions and slave raids. He perfectly achieved all strategic goals for the Germans. Of course the Romans poisoned him soon after and so another hero of the resistance died by the assassins hand. But then, heros never die as long as their deeds are not forgotten.

>All your ancestors smiling down on you while you hatefuck some of the less hairy med bitches on the corpses of their families.
Books for this feel?

Not acquainted with the

>Holy
>Roman
>Empire

Are we?

Roman just meant having the blessing of Rome, which isn't Roma larping but being christcucked.

good question, like a good book on the adventures of a Visigoth warrior in Alaric's service and how he fucked the evil out of this world. Sounds like an instant best seller.

>having the blessing of Rome
>which isn't Roma larping

Yes

>Male dominated society
>Strict marriage laws and punishments for adulterers
>Unmixed
>Practical
>Had no sense of degeneracy that the Romans were used to.

>Unmixed
Please Nigger, Germanics welcomed everyone in the anti R*man resistance, even Picts,

That doesn't mean they miscegenated with anybody

t. other

yes we all know how pagan women are famed for their chastity hohoho

Pagans were chaste, everything else is Christcuck propaganda (not that Germanics took women with them to war)

>muh racial laws
>muh calvinistic prudishness
they didn't give a fuck about the color of their bitches nor their bastards either.
Go peddle your fash bullshit to the R*mans, germanic master race ain't buying!

>pagans were chaste

barg pls

Give me a non-Christian source on that

>you will never have pagan bae offering milk and apples to Freya as thanks for having sleazy rough sex and multiple orgasms the night before.

What is this comic

their own myths dont even value chastity. did you think frigg and freya were faithful wives? do you think odin is some paragon of moral virtue? this is true for all paganism

look what it does to people like this guy

>some filthy jotunn shitskin approaches you in the parking lot of Home Depotgaard.
>he wants to marry a godess in exchange for doing some subpar contractor work while drinking coronas
>fuck him over because he's not of your kin
Go adopt some nigger babies Anderson

>their own myths dont even value chastity
Source

readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-Eagles-of-Rome/TPB-1?id=99023

The story of Armin(ius), Einherjer and hero of the anti R*man resistance

>oathbreaking
>getting bred by "jotunn shitskins" horse

so THIS is the power of the aesir. . .

have you ever read the eddas? the gods got around

That doesn't mean it was depicted in a positive light though

>have you ever read the eddas? the gods got around
Half the fucking Edda is about Odin putting his dick somewhere it doesn't belong and the troubles that come from it.

it was depicted as a natural part of life they didnt have a conception of "sin"

who are you to tell odin where his spear belongs?

Yeah and bastards were bastards, but they didn't tie themselves in knots over a discreet bit of buggery, sodomy, adultery or zoophilia. In fact they were pretty Chad. Your prudish "morals" are beta male steretype typical for Calvinistcucks and Fascist virgins. Hell, even medcucks are less boring than you.

Yeah, you tell that to Frigg and just see what happens.

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>what she dont know dont hurt her

>compare your naked snownigger mudhut collection to paved roads, trade, language, marble structures, citizenship, metallurgy, sanitation, sewage systems, navigation, astronomy, government, etc
how and why did this we wuz calts/germs meme start and unfold and how is at any different from the we wuz kangs meme? Also reminder that Teutobourg wasn't the end of the wild ride. The Romans went back into Germania, cleaned them up, and captured Arminius and made a spectacular show out of him.

read the fucking Edda you brainlet, funny stories about gods having a good time and leaving many half gods behind. Also Freya sucking every dick (man or horse) in both Asgard and Vanaheimr.

im pretty sure the Romans got past this mud thing a few times

>and captured Arminius and made a spectacular show out of him.
You're tripping girl. Arminius was poisoned by relatives on the orders of Rome. R*macucks never captured great Arminius. Also, they only did minor expeditions after Teutoburg, their hunger for Germanic lands had ended with Varus and his Legions.

>A familiar pastime for Odin was the seduction of attractive women, and he was repeatedly unfaithful to his wife, Frigg. In the poem Hárbarðsljóð Odin boasts about his sexual triumphs to Thor and compares them in amount to the number of victories Thor has had on the battlefield.

Marshall Cavendish, "Gods, Goddesses and Mythology Vol. 1" p. 1031

>Odin's boasts relate to his prowess with women, his magical powers and his pleasure in stirring up strife and 'setting princes at one another's throats.' These are three familiar aspects of his character and recur in many of the myths.

Kevin Crossley-Holland, "The Norse Myths" p. 217

Nope, they didn't find nor roman trash behind the wall, but lots of it before. 3 R*man legions bleed out on that little mound of dirt (and the huge forest around it)

>not captured
huh, I thought he was paraded around Rome and strangled like he should've been
his wife was still captured, though.
>their hunger for germanic lands
there's no hunger for niggerlands. Only personal hunger and interest of soldiers like Germanicus who went on genocide tours to gain personal fame and popularity. The Romans went on another expedition after Teutobourg and cleaned up the Germies.
>R*oman
You sound like one of those insecure, edgy turks. Your ancestors were niggers of no contribution to civilization. Stop.

That was Vercingetorix, tragic hero of the Gauls and their brave but futile fight against R*me.
The public shaming of their valiant enemy by the R*mans apparently enraged the galant Germanics as much as the genocide and slavery of the Celts.

>can't even tell Vercingetorix from Arminius
>R*me fanboy
what a surprise

I actually know, I just had rusty memory about which barbarian got paraded
And try to contain your shit into one reply.

>I actually know, I just had rusty memory about which barbarian got paraded
The one that tragically lost the freedom fight of his people, not the one that BTFO'd R*me for good.

>Arminius was poisoned by relatives on the orders of Rome

On the contrary, his own Germanic brethren made an offer to Tiberius to poison him but he said: "It was not by secret treachery but openly and by arms that the people of Rome avenged themselves on their enemies.". And then he got killed by some other Germanic chief anyway because he was a backstabbing cunt who couldn't be trusted by anyone.

The Gauls were a society dominated by a cadre of slave-owning nobles fighting a society dominated by a cadre of slave-owning families. There is no good or evil exclusively. The strong did what they could and the weak suffered what they must, just as they have in every age before and after.

>a statue of a Germanic tribesman in the Graeco-Roman style
History is more complex than you give credit. Men are more complex than you understand.

Fucking nobody revered Loki.
It's a Christian concept that gods must be likeable and be emulated.

Loki was antagonist to everyone's favorite: Thor.

Loki isn't a god but a Jötun you dumb fuck. Also, Thors main antagonist is Odin himself, the favourite of the priests and the ruling classes, god of war and battle. in stark contrast to Thor, the god of small farmers and merchants. Class struggle never cahnges!

>there's no hunger for niggerlands
*takes Brittania, Gaul, and Celtic Iberia*

>there's no hunger for niggerlands.
>invades Numidia

>Loki isn't a god but a Jötun you dumb fuck.
Which makes the image in reply all the more silly. Your statement changes nothing.
>the rest of your post
You could very well be right, I'm no expert in these matters. I thought that Thor and Odin were Father and son, not so much rivals?

>Gaul
a threat that needed pacifying
>Brittania
As I said, hunger for power and fame from Caesar.
And Brittania did prove to be atleast somewhat wealthy
>Celtic Iberia
Wealthy, strategic, important lands. No questions.
again, try containing your responses into one post, nigger.

Norse deities tend to kill their parents one way or another. Thor was popular amongst commoners always fighting the just fight for the small man. Odin was the ruler of the world, who would incite kings to wage battle, powerful, but only popular with the mighty. Loki is more a supernatural representation of human nature and basic instincts, he is a trickster, neither good nor bad, but entertaining to all. Loki's children will destroy the world of gods and men, but then, he is just a Jötun after all.

Why do you pretend hunger for power and fame is somehow divorced from taking barbarian lands?
They'll provide soldiers, tax, and the lands they inhabit can be mined and farmed.
There's nothing wrong with this, Rome tried, but after Teutoberg Forest the costs were seen to outweigh the benefits.

Did any higher civilization ever help an inferior one?

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Is this theme of godly usurptation a common Indo-European trope? Seems to have cognates with the Greeks and Romans anyway.

Oh yeah

>after Teutobourg forest
While the Romans may have had plans for a slow, decades-presistent campaign of slowly approaching hard-to-conquer lands inhabited by turboniggers (similar to the plan with northern Scotland, and lets take an example from there, how the Romans made an expedition to the far north, routed the picts in a pitched battle, reached the northern tip of England than doubled back south but never settled on anything) the expedition under Varus wasn't a conquest.

>Why do you pretend hunger for power and fame is somehow divorced from taking barbarian lands
It isn't. It's just you can farm your fame, popularity and earn favor of the people without conquering. See: Germanicus, Agricola.