Objectively speaking, who was in the wrong?

Source? Also why not just try to get along?

Was really hoping we could get a list of all the constituent countries, desu. The holidays are coming, and I'm in need of some Reddit gold.

Could we delete the thread and try it again?

The simplest answer is the impossibility of the creation of an yugoslavian identity in an union of four different religions and nationalities. Hope they’re happy now.

Macedonia is the purple one right?
It looks like a pair of testicles

Every one of the eight states that came out of that dream called Yugoslavia has a lenghty national history that denies the possibility. It could have worked as a commonwealth of repubblics back in the day, but too much blood was already shed in WW2 and only the geopolitical intrinsic factors kept it together. No bipolar world no need for a cushion.

Objectively: Serbia

Unlike interwar yugoslavia, in 2nd they lost being the ones that hold power, and not only that but their territory was endangered by giving kosovo and vojvodina autonomous status.
This was for 2 reasons: 1st and foremost commies wanted to balance power of nations in Yugoslavia, 2nd because serbia was liberated by the soviets and not the local partisans. All this led to them doing unconstitutional powe-grabbing in late 80s, for which they had the country's army on their side for, all of which resulted in the breakup of yugoslavia

>fpbp
S*rbia, if it wasn't for them, all Balkan niggers would be first world, AAA+ credit rating, independent republics of the Austrian Commonwealth having Euro's and own space station and luxury car brands and would be importing Poles for cleaning toilets.

You think if we ask nicely, would the Turks take the Balkans back?

Honestly? We wuzzing drunken peasants, and an intelligentsia that not only descended from them but catered to them.

Not gunna happen since macedonia did basically fuck all

Also everyone ive met from jugoslavia blames slovenia except one serbian uotranationalist i know who blames it all on kosovo

can someone post the yugoslavia bird?

Everithing true but the part about the Soviets. You’re messing up things. Serbia was liberated by Tito’s partisans (Bosniacs, Serbs, Macedonians, ecc). The communists actually organized the coup and the breakup of the first Yugoslavia.

Polfag detected.

The Serbo-Croatians, with Slovenes acting as accomplices.
Bosniaks were collateral damage, and shqiptars had it coming

Objectively:

France

It actually wasnt. Partisan movement was low in serbia both mostly due harsh german repercations on civilians, and in 1944 it was mostly liberated by the red army

America and Germany for acknowledging the declarations of independence of the breakaway states in a politically motivated attempt to destroy one of the last independent socialist states in the world. Read Ed Herman.

Imma need sources. Never looked deeply enough in it. Makes sense seeing the division between chetniks and partisans. Another reason for the mess that came later.

Macedonia because it looks like a ballsack

Now you will never unsee it

Anyone who wasn't Serbia.

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Anyone who doesn't hate Serbs with a fiery passion, has never met and actual Serb. It's all fun and dandy until you hear them claim Australia is Serb land.

NATO

> them claim Australia is Serb land
But it is!

I still prefer the Serbs to the fucking Boers

>Every one of the eight states that came out of that dream called Yugoslavia has a lenghty national history that denies the possibility.
Yeah, every one of them has a lengthy national history that's 80% made up.

Serbia for shitting things up before the second world war, Croatia for shitting things up after it, everyone for falling for their respective shitty leaders' propaganda once the 90s hit.

Croats, they are evil beings and the independent state of coatia proved this

Do not listen to this peder. Aleksandar Srpski was a proud Srbin, and consequently, the entirety of Grčka and Perzija belong to Srbija.
youtube.com/watch?v=_L3zRI5iogE

brainlet, even when you disregard all the mythomany, even serbia has a history of its own

pic

r8 this map that i stole many years ago

it would be a perfect rpg if montenegrians were halflings,
and god emperor was made and brought to the world by elves and dwarves
using dark machinations for an unknown purpose, presumably to control the expansion of mankind,
macedonians could be lizardmen

The Vatican.

youtube.com/watch?v=vSuInXD5M9Y

On behalf of which basis can you claim that?
Milorad Pavic's works. Sima Cirkovic's history books. Vencheslava Bechynova's essays on literature. Thomas Eekman's life works on balkans and eastern and southern slavic nations. Giovanna Brogi Bergoff's written words on literature and culture of the balkan nations. The recorded advent od Glagolitic, Cirillic and modern day alphabets representing different variations of written culture and foreign influences both Catholic, Orthodox and Islamic (Nicoletta Marcialis' works on how the languages changed from CS and why). If you have no sources for claiming something is made up it makes little sense doing the effort to write it. But hey. It is now really cool and edgy to claim everything is made up, the internet can prove me right.

G*rmany

Spastic Serb Nationalism.

George Soros

No. Like. Really. We need a board for balkan larpers that would be somewhere between /pol and /b with sources taken from edgy memes.

Best answer so far

>Objectively speaking, who was in the wrong?

Years back, I worked with a Bosnian Muslim who had immigrated to the U.S. after the Yugo Civil War and being a 2nd generation Polish-American of immigrant parents myself, we got along well and would frequently eat lunch together and one time I asked him about this;

ME: “WTF happened in Yugoslavia?”
HIM: “What do you mean?”
ME: “After WWI, you guys got along well and were successful then came WWII and you guys killed each other, then after WWII you guys got along well and were successful, then came the Yugo Civil War and you guys killed each other?”
HIM: “The Serbs.”

After WWI and WWII, the Serbs came to dominate the country and held most of the important positions in government, military, business, academia, etc. and this was resented by all the non-Serbs, who were simply waiting for an opportunity (WWII and then the Fall of Communism) to break away and get out from under the Serbian thumb.

I think it's just the mountains, if they were all relocated somewhere flat it might be less given over to tribalism.

macedonia looks like a ballsack lmao

what do bosnians have to do with polish people?